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    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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    Europe Drops Browser Lawsuit Against Microsoft[^] finally, some sense

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      Europe Drops Browser Lawsuit Against Microsoft[^] finally, some sense

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      hairy_hats
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      The other spin on this is that MS has agreed to let users decide which browser to install. Even if most people pick IE, it's no bad thing that their neurons might have been nudged towards a realisation that IE isn't the internet and there is a choice.

      I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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        The other spin on this is that MS has agreed to let users decide which browser to install. Even if most people pick IE, it's no bad thing that their neurons might have been nudged towards a realisation that IE isn't the internet and there is a choice.

        I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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        R Giskard Reventlov
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        Steve_Harris wrote:

        there is a choice.

        What do you mean 'there is a choice'? I don't understand... :)

        me, me, me

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          Europe Drops Browser Lawsuit Against Microsoft[^] finally, some sense

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          ahmed zahmed wrote:

          finally, some sense

          Where? :confused:

          The European Union is dropping antitrust charges against Microsoft after the company agreed to give Windows users a choice of up to 12 other Web browsers.

          Yeah, we're saved from the evil influence of the monopoly, end-users finally get a say about what browser they'll use. I'd love to see those faces when the first civil servant tries to install FF and they receive a message from the network-admin that it's still not allowed. I wonder what the extra cost will be for the departments who'll have to provide (helpdesk-)support to various browsers :)

          I are Troll :suss:

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            The other spin on this is that MS has agreed to let users decide which browser to install. Even if most people pick IE, it's no bad thing that their neurons might have been nudged towards a realisation that IE isn't the internet and there is a choice.

            I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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            peterchen
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            What choice? It's a thing to display webpages.

            Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
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              Europe Drops Browser Lawsuit Against Microsoft[^] finally, some sense

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              Jeremy Tierman
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              It is pretty funny how they are after MS for hidding information or private API's, but when Apple does it, they seen nothing or hear nothing. "Kroes also warned that she was still looking at complaints from software rivals that the company wasn't sharing key information that help others make products compatible with Microsoft software." "Private API calls are a definite no-no according to the iPhone Developer Agreement" http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/11/respected-developers-fleeing-from-app-store-platform.ars[^]

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                Europe Drops Browser Lawsuit Against Microsoft[^] finally, some sense

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                So when is the lawsuit requiring a selection screen for which Notepad is installed going to begin? More seriously, the numbers from this are going to be interesting: given a fairly level playing field, what will happen. My guess is that Firefox will gain market share, Explorer will lose some and Opera won't go anywhere.

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                  ahmed zahmed wrote:

                  finally, some sense

                  Where? :confused:

                  The European Union is dropping antitrust charges against Microsoft after the company agreed to give Windows users a choice of up to 12 other Web browsers.

                  Yeah, we're saved from the evil influence of the monopoly, end-users finally get a say about what browser they'll use. I'd love to see those faces when the first civil servant tries to install FF and they receive a message from the network-admin that it's still not allowed. I wonder what the extra cost will be for the departments who'll have to provide (helpdesk-)support to various browsers :)

                  I are Troll :suss:

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                  we will send the bill to the EU :-D since it was their intervention that led to the increase in costs...

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                    It is pretty funny how they are after MS for hidding information or private API's, but when Apple does it, they seen nothing or hear nothing. "Kroes also warned that she was still looking at complaints from software rivals that the company wasn't sharing key information that help others make products compatible with Microsoft software." "Private API calls are a definite no-no according to the iPhone Developer Agreement" http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/11/respected-developers-fleeing-from-app-store-platform.ars[^]

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                    Steve Mayfield
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                    maybe all of the EU members own iMacs :~

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                      It is pretty funny how they are after MS for hidding information or private API's, but when Apple does it, they seen nothing or hear nothing. "Kroes also warned that she was still looking at complaints from software rivals that the company wasn't sharing key information that help others make products compatible with Microsoft software." "Private API calls are a definite no-no according to the iPhone Developer Agreement" http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/11/respected-developers-fleeing-from-app-store-platform.ars[^]

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                      Monopolies operate under slightly different rules than others. Doesn't seem fair at times but it's the law in most western countries.

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                        The other spin on this is that MS has agreed to let users decide which browser to install. Even if most people pick IE, it's no bad thing that their neurons might have been nudged towards a realisation that IE isn't the internet and there is a choice.

                        I hope you realise that hamsters are very creative when it comes to revenge. - Elaine

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                        Kevin McFarlane
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                        Steve_Harris wrote:

                        nudged towards a realisation that IE isn't the internet and there is a choice.

                        Actually, according to that YouTube survey by Google, most users don't even think of IE as such. They tend to think that a browser is Google. IE is largely a means to using Google.

                        Kevin

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                          So when is the lawsuit requiring a selection screen for which Notepad is installed going to begin? More seriously, the numbers from this are going to be interesting: given a fairly level playing field, what will happen. My guess is that Firefox will gain market share, Explorer will lose some and Opera won't go anywhere.

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                          Kevin McFarlane
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                          Joe Woodbury wrote:

                          My guess is that Firefox will gain market share, Explorer will lose some and Opera won't go anywhere

                          That's my guess too. I actually take a contrary view about IE's dominance holding back innovation. You could say that IE's dominance led to slow innovation in IE and that it was this that made it easier for the likes of Firefox and Opera to provide novel features! Either way, FF and Opera were able to innovate anyway so it's a peculiar argument that IE held back innovation. But you could argue that IE's dominance held back discovery of innovation by the consumer.

                          Kevin

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