North Korea admits it has secret nuclear weapons programme
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(from the Google News site). Hmmm. Was Bush right about the "axis of evil" (god, where did he come up with that phrase anyways)? Are we Americans gulligble fools to believe the treaty that Clinton administration signed in 1994? Are we going to war with NK next? What does it all mean??? Marc
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(from the Google News site). Hmmm. Was Bush right about the "axis of evil" (god, where did he come up with that phrase anyways)? Are we Americans gulligble fools to believe the treaty that Clinton administration signed in 1994? Are we going to war with NK next? What does it all mean??? Marc
Yahoo - another target for the US war machine - the Military must be rubbing their hands with glee with all the extra funding they'll be able to wrangle - Hang on though this one might be able to fight back and will most probably have missles that will reach the US. Quick round them all up in a field and bomb the b*****s! (as Kenny Everett used to say).
Stupidity dies. The end of future offspring. Evolution wins. - A Darwin Awards Haiku
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(from the Google News site). Hmmm. Was Bush right about the "axis of evil" (god, where did he come up with that phrase anyways)? Are we Americans gulligble fools to believe the treaty that Clinton administration signed in 1994? Are we going to war with NK next? What does it all mean??? Marc
Marc Clifton wrote: Was Bush right about the "axis of evil" Of course he was. Marc Clifton wrote: Are we Americans gulligble fools to believe the treaty that Clinton administration signed in 1994? Americans? Try "Democrats". Marc Clifton wrote: Are we going to war with NK next? Worse things could happen. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
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Marc Clifton wrote: Was Bush right about the "axis of evil" Of course he was. Marc Clifton wrote: Are we Americans gulligble fools to believe the treaty that Clinton administration signed in 1994? Americans? Try "Democrats". Marc Clifton wrote: Are we going to war with NK next? Worse things could happen. "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
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(from the Google News site). Hmmm. Was Bush right about the "axis of evil" (god, where did he come up with that phrase anyways)? Are we Americans gulligble fools to believe the treaty that Clinton administration signed in 1994? Are we going to war with NK next? What does it all mean??? Marc
Leads to the question - why was peace promoted so nicely while Clinton was in office, but the Bush family seem to cause so much disturbance? Is it just bad luck timing? Sorry, I don't live in US, so something of a mystery for me. :suss:
Dave Goodman on funny error messages:
It is a definite no-no to run BITMAP as a user command. Your nose will grow, your lawn will die, your hair will fall out, and your first-born will marry an aardvark. Shame on you! -
(from the Google News site). Hmmm. Was Bush right about the "axis of evil" (god, where did he come up with that phrase anyways)? Are we Americans gulligble fools to believe the treaty that Clinton administration signed in 1994? Are we going to war with NK next? What does it all mean??? Marc
It means they know the US has nukes and therefore feel the need to have them also. This does not prove they are going to aim the first one they get to fly at Hollywood and let 'er rip. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
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Leads to the question - why was peace promoted so nicely while Clinton was in office, but the Bush family seem to cause so much disturbance? Is it just bad luck timing? Sorry, I don't live in US, so something of a mystery for me. :suss:
Dave Goodman on funny error messages:
It is a definite no-no to run BITMAP as a user command. Your nose will grow, your lawn will die, your hair will fall out, and your first-born will marry an aardvark. Shame on you!Not that I like how Bush has handled things, nor am I a Republican, but he has had a tough job of it. The economy might have been great during the Clinton administration, but the whole thing imploded shortly after he left office with the stock market collapsing and the corporate scandals. Then 9/11. Unfortunately, I don't think Bush is handling these tasks very well--not that Democrats could do better. Our president has a serious lack of leadership when it comes to the economy. There are some great Doonesbury cartoons of the kind of idiotic statements coming from Bush about the economy (but can't we please put duct tape over Al Gore's mouth?). It also seems that Republicans get themselves involved in military actions or promote controversial military technology development. Is it just their karma? What amazes me is (my very skewed observations) that Americans seem to feel that they have no control (an illusion anyways) over these issues, and therefore we aren't very vocal one way or the other. Everyone, (and I mean everyone) at my work thinks war with Iraq is a bad thing, and everyone at work is worried about their jobs and making ends meet. It seems like I work in a vaccuum, compared to the CNN polls where more than 50% of Americans think we should oust Saddam. Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator. (hmm, maybe I've got a good sig line finally!) Marc
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Stan Shannon wrote: Worse things could happen. I doubt it, considering last time you guys had a squabble with NK, China was backing it up. China *is* a nuclear power.
Londo wrote: China was backing it up And therein lies the problem, doesn't it? China (and Japan) has a vested interest in NK, Russia (against the rules) has developed a vested interest in Iraq. Both are going to want some major concessions from the US otherwise they'll join in any war. After all Bush's posturing, he's going to look pretty silly if he backs down over Iraq. And after agreeing with Japan that NK might be dropped from the "Axis of Evil", they now admit to having had a nuclear weapons program all along. Bush is also going to look kinda stupid if he just shrugs this off after using this as the basis for the war on Iraq. All-in-all he's being backed into a corner. The question is, will he fight his way out, talk his way out or simply lie down and play dead (another cold war)? Paul Life is just a sexually transmitted desease - Matthew Wright (ex-journalist, TV presenter) 10-Oct-02 I finally have a sig! - Paul Riley (part-time deity) 10-Oct-02
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Leads to the question - why was peace promoted so nicely while Clinton was in office, but the Bush family seem to cause so much disturbance? Is it just bad luck timing? Sorry, I don't live in US, so something of a mystery for me. :suss:
Dave Goodman on funny error messages:
It is a definite no-no to run BITMAP as a user command. Your nose will grow, your lawn will die, your hair will fall out, and your first-born will marry an aardvark. Shame on you!Megan Forbes wrote: why was peace promoted so nicely while Clinton was in office, but the Bush family seem to cause so much disturbance? Not peace at all, just deferral of the problems. Clinton ignored the terrorist threats, and we had 9-11. Clinton had North Korea agree to cancel it's nuclear weapons program, and now they have the nuclear bomb. Clinton attempted to force feed a solution to the Israeli and Palestinian problem causing an unbelievable escalation to that problem where it would have been much more intelligent to continue the slow pace towards resolution. Clinton bombed Iraq, with impunity just days before hearings on impeachment - then backed off after everyone's attention was distracted. Clinton brokered a peace agreement in Northern Ireland that is a sham. The man was and is a joke, a blight on our history as long as history books are written honestly. 8 years of playing at statesmanship leaving a mess for adults to deal with. Mike
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Not that I like how Bush has handled things, nor am I a Republican, but he has had a tough job of it. The economy might have been great during the Clinton administration, but the whole thing imploded shortly after he left office with the stock market collapsing and the corporate scandals. Then 9/11. Unfortunately, I don't think Bush is handling these tasks very well--not that Democrats could do better. Our president has a serious lack of leadership when it comes to the economy. There are some great Doonesbury cartoons of the kind of idiotic statements coming from Bush about the economy (but can't we please put duct tape over Al Gore's mouth?). It also seems that Republicans get themselves involved in military actions or promote controversial military technology development. Is it just their karma? What amazes me is (my very skewed observations) that Americans seem to feel that they have no control (an illusion anyways) over these issues, and therefore we aren't very vocal one way or the other. Everyone, (and I mean everyone) at my work thinks war with Iraq is a bad thing, and everyone at work is worried about their jobs and making ends meet. It seems like I work in a vaccuum, compared to the CNN polls where more than 50% of Americans think we should oust Saddam. Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator. (hmm, maybe I've got a good sig line finally!) Marc
Marc Clifton wrote: Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator. (hmm, maybe I've got a good sig line finally!) Marc I might need to steal that :laugh:
Dave Goodman on funny error messages:
It is a definite no-no to run BITMAP as a user command. Your nose will grow, your lawn will die, your hair will fall out, and your first-born will marry an aardvark. Shame on you! -
Not that I like how Bush has handled things, nor am I a Republican, but he has had a tough job of it. The economy might have been great during the Clinton administration, but the whole thing imploded shortly after he left office with the stock market collapsing and the corporate scandals. Then 9/11. Unfortunately, I don't think Bush is handling these tasks very well--not that Democrats could do better. Our president has a serious lack of leadership when it comes to the economy. There are some great Doonesbury cartoons of the kind of idiotic statements coming from Bush about the economy (but can't we please put duct tape over Al Gore's mouth?). It also seems that Republicans get themselves involved in military actions or promote controversial military technology development. Is it just their karma? What amazes me is (my very skewed observations) that Americans seem to feel that they have no control (an illusion anyways) over these issues, and therefore we aren't very vocal one way or the other. Everyone, (and I mean everyone) at my work thinks war with Iraq is a bad thing, and everyone at work is worried about their jobs and making ends meet. It seems like I work in a vaccuum, compared to the CNN polls where more than 50% of Americans think we should oust Saddam. Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator. (hmm, maybe I've got a good sig line finally!) Marc
Correction, the economy was tanking while Clinton was in office. It started self destructing in early 2000. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
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It means they know the US has nukes and therefore feel the need to have them also. This does not prove they are going to aim the first one they get to fly at Hollywood and let 'er rip. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Me with you. If the Russia, US, China, etc have why not NK? If it is bad to have let all of them destroy it. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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(from the Google News site). Hmmm. Was Bush right about the "axis of evil" (god, where did he come up with that phrase anyways)? Are we Americans gulligble fools to believe the treaty that Clinton administration signed in 1994? Are we going to war with NK next? What does it all mean??? Marc
Excellent news. Sniper at home, Saddam in the Middle East, NK in the far east. Will definitely sort out the US population growth. Now if Castro were only to start with his sh*t again. A perfect world. Cheers Mike Johannesburg, South Africa
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Excellent news. Sniper at home, Saddam in the Middle East, NK in the far east. Will definitely sort out the US population growth. Now if Castro were only to start with his sh*t again. A perfect world. Cheers Mike Johannesburg, South Africa
Sounds like someone is *enjoying* the game.. -- modified at 14:58 Friday 2nd June, 2006
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Londo wrote: China was backing it up And therein lies the problem, doesn't it? China (and Japan) has a vested interest in NK, Russia (against the rules) has developed a vested interest in Iraq. Both are going to want some major concessions from the US otherwise they'll join in any war. After all Bush's posturing, he's going to look pretty silly if he backs down over Iraq. And after agreeing with Japan that NK might be dropped from the "Axis of Evil", they now admit to having had a nuclear weapons program all along. Bush is also going to look kinda stupid if he just shrugs this off after using this as the basis for the war on Iraq. All-in-all he's being backed into a corner. The question is, will he fight his way out, talk his way out or simply lie down and play dead (another cold war)? Paul Life is just a sexually transmitted desease - Matthew Wright (ex-journalist, TV presenter) 10-Oct-02 I finally have a sig! - Paul Riley (part-time deity) 10-Oct-02
Paul Riley wrote: All-in-all he's being backed into a corner. The question is, will he fight his way out, talk his way out or simply lie down and play dead (another cold war)? Bets? Here's another thought to consider: Russia, in violation of UN agreements, sells weaponry to Iraq and votes against any action in Iraq owing to billions in outstanding collectibles which will be sunk cost if weaponry discovered. France, ditto. The 1st result, no new resolution and no inspections. The 2nd result, America and small group of countries go it alone. The 3rd result, America resigns from UN membership and demands rent for prime NYC real estate. The 4th result, Kofi Annan says, "whats up with that" as UN moves to Geneva to pick the reins from League of Nations.
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It means they know the US has nukes and therefore feel the need to have them also. This does not prove they are going to aim the first one they get to fly at Hollywood and let 'er rip. Christian Hey, at least Logo had, at it's inception, a mechanical turtle. VB has always lacked even that... - Shog9 04-09-2002 During last 10 years, with invention of VB and similar programming environments, every ill-educated moron became able to develop software. - Alex E. - 12-Sept-2002
Christian Graus wrote: This does not prove they are going to aim the first one they get to fly at Hollywood and let 'er rip. Yeah, I seriously doubt they would be willing to do us that *big* of a favor.:laugh: "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
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Not that I like how Bush has handled things, nor am I a Republican, but he has had a tough job of it. The economy might have been great during the Clinton administration, but the whole thing imploded shortly after he left office with the stock market collapsing and the corporate scandals. Then 9/11. Unfortunately, I don't think Bush is handling these tasks very well--not that Democrats could do better. Our president has a serious lack of leadership when it comes to the economy. There are some great Doonesbury cartoons of the kind of idiotic statements coming from Bush about the economy (but can't we please put duct tape over Al Gore's mouth?). It also seems that Republicans get themselves involved in military actions or promote controversial military technology development. Is it just their karma? What amazes me is (my very skewed observations) that Americans seem to feel that they have no control (an illusion anyways) over these issues, and therefore we aren't very vocal one way or the other. Everyone, (and I mean everyone) at my work thinks war with Iraq is a bad thing, and everyone at work is worried about their jobs and making ends meet. It seems like I work in a vaccuum, compared to the CNN polls where more than 50% of Americans think we should oust Saddam. Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator. (hmm, maybe I've got a good sig line finally!) Marc
Marc Clifton wrote: It seems like I work in a vaccuum, compared to the CNN polls where more than 50% of Americans think we should oust Saddam. Depends on which poll you read. According to this CBS/NY Post poll, only 30% of Americans feel an immediate need for going to war. Looks like these polls are becoming acts of art, and not science anymore.
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(from the Google News site). Hmmm. Was Bush right about the "axis of evil" (god, where did he come up with that phrase anyways)? Are we Americans gulligble fools to believe the treaty that Clinton administration signed in 1994? Are we going to war with NK next? What does it all mean??? Marc
Marc Clifton wrote: Was Bush right about the "axis of evil" Yes. But that doesn't mean we have to go to war with all of them. We may be able to convince China to put some pressure on NK rather than going in with guns blazing. Marc Clifton wrote: Are we Americans gulligble fools to believe the treaty that Clinton administration signed in 1994? You have to realize that treaties don't mean squat to some people. A treaty is just a peace of paper without the means to back it up. NK, Iraq, Iran, etc. had no problem with violating treaties while Clinton was in orifice because they knew he was spineless.
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(from the Google News site). Hmmm. Was Bush right about the "axis of evil" (god, where did he come up with that phrase anyways)? Are we Americans gulligble fools to believe the treaty that Clinton administration signed in 1994? Are we going to war with NK next? What does it all mean??? Marc
Hopefully the US won't go to war with NK; and here's some info about the treaty from Boortz.com Nealz Nuz[^]: "We’re not going to hear that Bill Clinton extracted a promise from North Korea in 1994 that they would halt all programs aimed at developing nuclear weapons and, in return, Clinton promised to send American nuclear technology to Korea for the development of nuclear power plants. You also won’t hear that many critics said in 1994 that North Korea would almost certainly use that American technology, provided by Clinton, to continue development of nuclear weapons." Now, call me silly, but why GIVE a nation nuclear technology after they just signed a treaty with you not to develop their own... :confused: "If at any time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be uprooted, torn down and destroyed, and if that nation I warned repents of its evil, then I will relent and not inflict on it the disaster I had planned. And if at another time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be built up and planted, and if it does evil in my sight and does not obey me, then I will reconsider the good I had intended to do for it." -- Jeremiah 18:7-10 (God, commenting on the value of the United Nations)
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Hopefully the US won't go to war with NK; and here's some info about the treaty from Boortz.com Nealz Nuz[^]: "We’re not going to hear that Bill Clinton extracted a promise from North Korea in 1994 that they would halt all programs aimed at developing nuclear weapons and, in return, Clinton promised to send American nuclear technology to Korea for the development of nuclear power plants. You also won’t hear that many critics said in 1994 that North Korea would almost certainly use that American technology, provided by Clinton, to continue development of nuclear weapons." Now, call me silly, but why GIVE a nation nuclear technology after they just signed a treaty with you not to develop their own... :confused: "If at any time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be uprooted, torn down and destroyed, and if that nation I warned repents of its evil, then I will relent and not inflict on it the disaster I had planned. And if at another time I announce that a nation or kingdom is to be built up and planted, and if it does evil in my sight and does not obey me, then I will reconsider the good I had intended to do for it." -- Jeremiah 18:7-10 (God, commenting on the value of the United Nations)
Chris Hambleton wrote: Now, call me silly, but why GIVE a nation nuclear technology after they just signed a treaty with you not to develop their own... I couldn't quite figure the logic in that either. :confused: I don't think those facilities were actually started until late '99, though. The N.Koreans, then turned around and threatened to restart their nuclear programs if U.S didn't compensate for electricity lost due to delays in the power plant construction. WTF? Supposedly in early '99, inspectors reported no evidence of "nuclear activity". I guess they were fooled. You don't think the Iraqi's would try to hide their activity too, do you?? :omg: BW The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to talk, mad to live, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding. - Jack Kerouac