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  • R Roger Wright

    What's your preference? I've used both in the past, and see little difference, but I know a lot of people have strong opinions about the brands available, and usually for good reason. While I have a good recommendation for the server card from John already, I want something a little more zippy for the client system. High powered grapics acceleration isn't necessary, as I couldn't care less about gaming, but I do enjoy photography and an occasional movie, and I might be venturing into video editing sometime this year. At the moment I'm running WinXP, but I wouldn't be averse to switching to Windows 7 eventually. What do you suggest? Is there a viable 3rd option?

    "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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    Leadeye
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    I have had major headaches with ATI drivers. No such problems with nVidia. If it's a fresh OS install, you'd probably have better luck with drivers than I did...

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    • R Roger Wright

      What's your preference? I've used both in the past, and see little difference, but I know a lot of people have strong opinions about the brands available, and usually for good reason. While I have a good recommendation for the server card from John already, I want something a little more zippy for the client system. High powered grapics acceleration isn't necessary, as I couldn't care less about gaming, but I do enjoy photography and an occasional movie, and I might be venturing into video editing sometime this year. At the moment I'm running WinXP, but I wouldn't be averse to switching to Windows 7 eventually. What do you suggest? Is there a viable 3rd option?

      "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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      Sean Cundiff
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      I've never had a problem with ATI. I've had one or two with nVidia. Both have linux drivers that support hardware acceleration. I'm currently using a Radeon HD4850 in a dual-boot win 7 x64 / ubuntu 9.10 x64 machine.

      -Sean ---- Fire Nuts

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      • R Roger Wright

        What's your preference? I've used both in the past, and see little difference, but I know a lot of people have strong opinions about the brands available, and usually for good reason. While I have a good recommendation for the server card from John already, I want something a little more zippy for the client system. High powered grapics acceleration isn't necessary, as I couldn't care less about gaming, but I do enjoy photography and an occasional movie, and I might be venturing into video editing sometime this year. At the moment I'm running WinXP, but I wouldn't be averse to switching to Windows 7 eventually. What do you suggest? Is there a viable 3rd option?

        "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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        Lost User
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        Roger Wright wrote:

        What's your preference?

        I will prefer nVidia card. As i have not faced any issue using these cards

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        • R Russ T

          I've never had any problems with ATI hardware, but I have had trouble with ATI drivers doing weird things to my system. I tend to stick to Nvidia these days for my Windows machines.

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          Ath1
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          That's just my conclusion, the hardware is not the problem, they are both as fast as you can afford, but the ATI drivers usually just hang my systems during reboot, while they just booted up fine, 30 seconds before that. X| Switched back to nVidia hardware and drivers and all is fine again. :doh:

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          • R Roger Wright

            What's your preference? I've used both in the past, and see little difference, but I know a lot of people have strong opinions about the brands available, and usually for good reason. While I have a good recommendation for the server card from John already, I want something a little more zippy for the client system. High powered grapics acceleration isn't necessary, as I couldn't care less about gaming, but I do enjoy photography and an occasional movie, and I might be venturing into video editing sometime this year. At the moment I'm running WinXP, but I wouldn't be averse to switching to Windows 7 eventually. What do you suggest? Is there a viable 3rd option?

            "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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            Vishal Doshi
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            I'd say go for a Radeon 5770 ... See http://vishaldoshi.wordpress.com/2009/12/06/in-the-market-for-a-new-mainstream-graphics-card/[^]

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            • V Vishal Doshi

              I'd say go for a Radeon 5770 ... See http://vishaldoshi.wordpress.com/2009/12/06/in-the-market-for-a-new-mainstream-graphics-card/[^]

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              I just got myself one of these last week, the XFX version however :)

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              • R Roger Wright

                What's your preference? I've used both in the past, and see little difference, but I know a lot of people have strong opinions about the brands available, and usually for good reason. While I have a good recommendation for the server card from John already, I want something a little more zippy for the client system. High powered grapics acceleration isn't necessary, as I couldn't care less about gaming, but I do enjoy photography and an occasional movie, and I might be venturing into video editing sometime this year. At the moment I'm running WinXP, but I wouldn't be averse to switching to Windows 7 eventually. What do you suggest? Is there a viable 3rd option?

                "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                Ed Poore
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                nVidia, not sure why but always preferred them and never had any issues with them at all.


                I doubt it. If it isn't intuitive then we need to fix it. - Chris Maunder

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                • R Roger Wright

                  What's your preference? I've used both in the past, and see little difference, but I know a lot of people have strong opinions about the brands available, and usually for good reason. While I have a good recommendation for the server card from John already, I want something a little more zippy for the client system. High powered grapics acceleration isn't necessary, as I couldn't care less about gaming, but I do enjoy photography and an occasional movie, and I might be venturing into video editing sometime this year. At the moment I'm running WinXP, but I wouldn't be averse to switching to Windows 7 eventually. What do you suggest? Is there a viable 3rd option?

                  "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                  Caslen
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                  Always had problems with ATI drivers going back years and with different hardware - doesn't give you much confidence when the hardware manufacturer can't drive his own card.

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                  • R Roger Wright

                    What's your preference? I've used both in the past, and see little difference, but I know a lot of people have strong opinions about the brands available, and usually for good reason. While I have a good recommendation for the server card from John already, I want something a little more zippy for the client system. High powered grapics acceleration isn't necessary, as I couldn't care less about gaming, but I do enjoy photography and an occasional movie, and I might be venturing into video editing sometime this year. At the moment I'm running WinXP, but I wouldn't be averse to switching to Windows 7 eventually. What do you suggest? Is there a viable 3rd option?

                    "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                    hairy_hats
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                    I only tried one NVidia card and it wouldn't even play the bundled game! Stuck with ATI ever since and never had a problem.

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                    • E Ed Poore

                      nVidia, not sure why but always preferred them and never had any issues with them at all.


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                      dmavin
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                      nVidia simple as.

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                      • R Roger Wright

                        What's your preference? I've used both in the past, and see little difference, but I know a lot of people have strong opinions about the brands available, and usually for good reason. While I have a good recommendation for the server card from John already, I want something a little more zippy for the client system. High powered grapics acceleration isn't necessary, as I couldn't care less about gaming, but I do enjoy photography and an occasional movie, and I might be venturing into video editing sometime this year. At the moment I'm running WinXP, but I wouldn't be averse to switching to Windows 7 eventually. What do you suggest? Is there a viable 3rd option?

                        "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                        Asday
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                        ATi. I've had an 8800, I think, and it didn't sit right. Not got any real reasons to back up my choice of an ATi 4870, but I like red, it's big, and the nVidia control software looked ugly to me. Not had any problems with the card or the drivers, and it was cheap as hell, at £90. (About $145.) It's pretty nice being able to hit 32kPPD with F@H, and 450 FPS in EVE-online, without even overclocking the card.

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                          That's just my conclusion, the hardware is not the problem, they are both as fast as you can afford, but the ATI drivers usually just hang my systems during reboot, while they just booted up fine, 30 seconds before that. X| Switched back to nVidia hardware and drivers and all is fine again. :doh:

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                          I had trouble with ATI as well (drivers or hardware), but never with nVidia.

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                          • R Roger Wright

                            What's your preference? I've used both in the past, and see little difference, but I know a lot of people have strong opinions about the brands available, and usually for good reason. While I have a good recommendation for the server card from John already, I want something a little more zippy for the client system. High powered grapics acceleration isn't necessary, as I couldn't care less about gaming, but I do enjoy photography and an occasional movie, and I might be venturing into video editing sometime this year. At the moment I'm running WinXP, but I wouldn't be averse to switching to Windows 7 eventually. What do you suggest? Is there a viable 3rd option?

                            "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                            SomeGuyThatIsMe
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                            I use ATI, cant stand nVidia. Maybe i'm the only guy around that has never had a problem with ATI drivers, ever. nVidia on the other hand constantly causes me issues. My roommate in college was having issues with games not playing and getting strange graphical errors in the ones that would load, so i gave him my radeon 9700(yeah it was a while ago) as soon as he got the drivers installed his whole pc ran faster and all the errors with running games want away. I think 90% of the other games started working too. I had a 8600, i think, in my work PC and it would barely run halo with out me having to go into the control center and changing things, it also did weird things to my color settings right out of the box i never could get them set right. I could be biased since i was a huge 3dfx fan and nVidia bought them and discontinued everything they made. The Voodoo 5 5500 was still the coolest and biggest video card i've ever owned.

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                            • R Roger Wright

                              What's your preference? I've used both in the past, and see little difference, but I know a lot of people have strong opinions about the brands available, and usually for good reason. While I have a good recommendation for the server card from John already, I want something a little more zippy for the client system. High powered grapics acceleration isn't necessary, as I couldn't care less about gaming, but I do enjoy photography and an occasional movie, and I might be venturing into video editing sometime this year. At the moment I'm running WinXP, but I wouldn't be averse to switching to Windows 7 eventually. What do you suggest? Is there a viable 3rd option?

                              "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                              Dan Neely
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                              The new ATI 5xxx series is roughly 2x as fast as the last generation nVidia 2xx series cards. The 3xx cards should allow nVidia to catch up, but yield problems at TSMC have delayed them repeatedly. Yields for ATI on the 40nm process have been fairly dismal as well, dunno if nVidia's are that much worse or if TSMC doesn't have enough capacity to start making nVidia cards while doing ATIs at the moment.

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                              • T the Kris

                                I had trouble with ATI as well (drivers or hardware), but never with nVidia.

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                                Brad Stiles
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                                And I've had the exact same types of problems with the ATI drivers. Switching to an nVidia card solved the problem. There are a number of factors that might cause these issues with both setups, and since the quality of both is good, it probably doesn't matter which you go with, as long as it works for you.

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                                • J John M Drescher

                                  Since I use linux 50/50 there is only 1 choice nVidia. Any card containing a GPU from any other manufacturer will most likely cause you more problems and also you will not get GPU accelerated video like you do with vdpau. At home on my quad core linux desktop (main machine) my current card is a 512 MB nVidia 8400GS fanless card. I paid $35 at newegg for it and it came with a $15 mail in rebate. It works great in every thing I hit it in in linux. Even for the 2 windows games I play under wine (WC3 and glest).

                                  John

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                                  AbbydonKrafts
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                                  I've had problems with ATI drivers, and OS portability is a plus when investing in hardware. So I'd recommend nVidia as well. @John: I looked for the fanless just now and must be skimming over it. Mind giving us the model number? I'm going to be building a web-connected media server for my entertainment center, and that card sounds perfect.

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                                    I've had problems with ATI drivers, and OS portability is a plus when investing in hardware. So I'd recommend nVidia as well. @John: I looked for the fanless just now and must be skimming over it. Mind giving us the model number? I'm going to be building a web-connected media server for my entertainment center, and that card sounds perfect.

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                                    John M Drescher
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                                    They do not have the exact one that I have but this one is close: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121360&Tpk=8400gs%20asus[^] But now I would look at a 9400 9500 or 210 fanless.

                                    John

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                                    • J John M Drescher

                                      They do not have the exact one that I have but this one is close: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121360&Tpk=8400gs%20asus[^] But now I would look at a 9400 9500 or 210 fanless.

                                      John

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                                      AbbydonKrafts
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                                      Nice. Thanks a bunch!

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                                      • J John M Drescher

                                        They do not have the exact one that I have but this one is close: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121360&Tpk=8400gs%20asus[^] But now I would look at a 9400 9500 or 210 fanless.

                                        John

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                                        Dan Neely
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                                        If you can find one in fanless the 220 would give you a decent amount of future headroom even if you don't game; with 48 shaders vs 16 (32 in the 9500) you'll have alot more hardware for cuda to work with when new video codecs come out. It's not that much hotter than an 8500 and I know they came in single slot fanless models (and the heatsink itself was a rather wimpy looking model).

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                                        • R Roger Wright

                                          What's your preference? I've used both in the past, and see little difference, but I know a lot of people have strong opinions about the brands available, and usually for good reason. While I have a good recommendation for the server card from John already, I want something a little more zippy for the client system. High powered grapics acceleration isn't necessary, as I couldn't care less about gaming, but I do enjoy photography and an occasional movie, and I might be venturing into video editing sometime this year. At the moment I'm running WinXP, but I wouldn't be averse to switching to Windows 7 eventually. What do you suggest? Is there a viable 3rd option?

                                          "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                                          Dave Buhl
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                                          It is really six of one and half a dozen of the other. I tend to use NVIDIA cards while a friend uses ATI cards. We both do some heavy duty gaming in our free time and have been using our preferred manufacturers for many years. The cards leap frog for performance dominance every generation or two but the one thing you will definitely find is that a new architecture will inevitably have driver quirks that are worked out through patches over the first year or so. Both companies have Linux drivers available. For genaral use, you can't really go wrong with either NVIDIA or ATI although ATI does have a performance edge currently but you don't really need a top end card.

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