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  • L Lost User

    Have you considered running "it" in a Virtual Machine? That way you could assign three processors, and only those three would get locked up. A few days ago my machine broke down, and I accidentally installed openSuse from the LiveCD. I'm really confused since. Your "personal" computer sounds like half-a-server to me, you might as well turn it into several desktops that you can use simultaneous.

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    Christian Graus
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    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

    Your "personal" computer sounds like half-a-server to me

    It's a Mac Pro. In OSX I have 4 processors for Windows and four for Mac. I do my browsing in Safari, and it NEVER locks up.

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    • C Christian Graus

      I have EIGHT processors, and when IE is loading a page, or refreshing, my whole computer locks up. What is that about ? 20 GB RAM, but I am running 32 bit, so 3 GB available.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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      Lost User
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      Maybe if you change the affinity of the process to just 1 of your cores?

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      • C Christian Graus

        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

        Your "personal" computer sounds like half-a-server to me

        It's a Mac Pro. In OSX I have 4 processors for Windows and four for Mac. I do my browsing in Safari, and it NEVER locks up.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        Lost User
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        Christian Graus wrote:

        It's a Mac Pro. In OSX I have 4 processors for Windows and four for Mac. I do my browsing in Safari, and it NEVER locks up.

        Stability is a selling-point that's only popular among nerds. Besides, both be "free" software :)

        Christian Graus wrote:

        Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista.

        That could have tipped me off :laugh:

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        • C Christian Graus

          I have EIGHT processors, and when IE is loading a page, or refreshing, my whole computer locks up. What is that about ? 20 GB RAM, but I am running 32 bit, so 3 GB available.

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          Marc Clifton
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          Christian Graus wrote:

          and when IE is loading a page, or refreshing, my whole computer locks up.

          IE is a POS. I recently received a nice 4 processor system from a client, and it came with IE 8. Which locks up all tabs when it's trying to load one tab. Which crashes numerous times, and which asks idiotic questions like "close all tabs" but doesn't leave me an option to automatically save all tabs (or something like that, the whole damn close thing is so obfuscated, just close the damn app and re-open it in the same state later on!!!) And what's with that "compatibility" button? Can't the geniuses at MS write a browser that renders pages correctly, without my having to manually click a button??? So, I screamed IEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and installed Chrome. Marc

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          • L Lost User

            Maybe if you change the affinity of the process to just 1 of your cores?

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            Electron Shepherd
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            How would that help? I can't imagine what situation you're thinking of where a processor affinity change would make a difference. The OS is already running more than one thread per core (assuming the OS has, in total, more than 8 threads running!)

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Christian Graus wrote:

              and when IE is loading a page, or refreshing, my whole computer locks up.

              IE is a POS. I recently received a nice 4 processor system from a client, and it came with IE 8. Which locks up all tabs when it's trying to load one tab. Which crashes numerous times, and which asks idiotic questions like "close all tabs" but doesn't leave me an option to automatically save all tabs (or something like that, the whole damn close thing is so obfuscated, just close the damn app and re-open it in the same state later on!!!) And what's with that "compatibility" button? Can't the geniuses at MS write a browser that renders pages correctly, without my having to manually click a button??? So, I screamed IEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and installed Chrome. Marc

              Will work for food. Interacx

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              Christian Graus
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              I may try that. The latest Firefox is no better, which is why I am on IE.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              • C Christian Graus

                I have EIGHT processors, and when IE is loading a page, or refreshing, my whole computer locks up. What is that about ? 20 GB RAM, but I am running 32 bit, so 3 GB available.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                Shog9 0
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                You know what's funny? IE8 is the best of the IE versions. It's a pig, a pig that regularly fails to produce tasty bacon, but still it's the best of a bad lot. And still there are folks that'll try to defend it. Stockholm Syndrome, I tells ya...

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                • E Electron Shepherd

                  How would that help? I can't imagine what situation you're thinking of where a processor affinity change would make a difference. The OS is already running more than one thread per core (assuming the OS has, in total, more than 8 threads running!)

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                  Lost User
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                  Locking it to one core would free up the other cores.

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                  • S Shog9 0

                    You know what's funny? IE8 is the best of the IE versions. It's a pig, a pig that regularly fails to produce tasty bacon, but still it's the best of a bad lot. And still there are folks that'll try to defend it. Stockholm Syndrome, I tells ya...

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Shog9 wrote:

                    And still there are folks that'll try to defend it. Stockholm Syndrome, I tells ya...

                    I'd assume they were people scared of losing their MVP status. Who but someone with something to lose would defend it ?

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      and when IE is loading a page, or refreshing, my whole computer locks up.

                      IE is a POS. I recently received a nice 4 processor system from a client, and it came with IE 8. Which locks up all tabs when it's trying to load one tab. Which crashes numerous times, and which asks idiotic questions like "close all tabs" but doesn't leave me an option to automatically save all tabs (or something like that, the whole damn close thing is so obfuscated, just close the damn app and re-open it in the same state later on!!!) And what's with that "compatibility" button? Can't the geniuses at MS write a browser that renders pages correctly, without my having to manually click a button??? So, I screamed IEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and installed Chrome. Marc

                      Will work for food. Interacx

                      I'm not overthinking the problem, I just felt like I needed a small, unimportant, uninteresting rant! - Martin Hart Turner

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                      Electron Shepherd
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                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      I recently received a nice 4 processor system from a client, and it came with IE 8.

                      And perhaps some extra toolbars / BHOs installed, as is typical with a new computer? Try it on a clean system, and it works fine. Tabs don't lock other tabs when loading, and I don't think I've had IE8 crash once on either Vista or XP.

                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      re-open it in the same state later on

                      That's what the 'reopen last browsing session' link is for.

                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      Can't the geniuses at MS write a browser that renders pages correctly

                      I think it's a bit more complicated than that. Think of the compatibility button as "enable workarounds for bad HTML". It is impossible to buld a browser that renders HTML correctly in all cases, since so much of the web is badly written HTML. (Take a look at the source for http://www.interacx.com/[^] for an example of mal-formed HTML).

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        I have EIGHT processors, and when IE is loading a page, or refreshing, my whole computer locks up. What is that about ? 20 GB RAM, but I am running 32 bit, so 3 GB available.

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        LloydA111
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                        8 proccessors? :wtf: 20 GB RAM? :wtf: I want one :-D

                        If everything was not true, would it be not true that everything is not true? So by saying everything is not true, you are automatically denying that everything is not true. Useful links:
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                        • L LloydA111

                          8 proccessors? :wtf: 20 GB RAM? :wtf: I want one :-D

                          If everything was not true, would it be not true that everything is not true? So by saying everything is not true, you are automatically denying that everything is not true. Useful links:
                          Creating a bootable CD with several operating systems on.

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                          Christian Graus
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                          The Mac is an awesome beast, no question of that.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            I have EIGHT processors, and when IE is loading a page, or refreshing, my whole computer locks up. What is that about ? 20 GB RAM, but I am running 32 bit, so 3 GB available.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                            I have one processor and 1 gb ram. When ie loads a page I can compile a solution in visual studio, launch a WPF application and load the same page in chrome. When I am done doing those , ie finally loads the page. So, no I don' t have the same problem.

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              The Mac is an awesome beast, no question of that.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              LloydA111
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                              Was/is it some kind of server?

                              If everything was not true, would it be not true that everything is not true? So by saying everything is not true, you are automatically denying that everything is not true. Useful links:
                              Creating a bootable CD with several operating systems on.

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                              • L Lost User

                                Locking it to one core would free up the other cores.

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                                Electron Shepherd
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                                harold aptroot wrote:

                                Locking it to one core would free up the other cores.

                                Free them up? They aren't locked. I don't think you understand how the Windows scheduler works. Write a program that starts a thread, and locks it. For example, the code WaitForSingleObject(GetCurrenthThread(), INFINITE); will do. Run it on single core system. Run four instances on a four core system. Notice that the whole computer doesn't lock up.

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  I have EIGHT processors, and when IE is loading a page, or refreshing, my whole computer locks up. What is that about ? 20 GB RAM, but I am running 32 bit, so 3 GB available.

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  Rob Graham
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                                  It's called indecision. Works much better with only 1 processor.

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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    The Mac is an awesome beast, no question of that.

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    Electron Shepherd
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                                    Is it eight actual processors, or one processor with four hyper-threading cores? You can get a genuine 8 processor machine using Opterons, and the OS sees it as 32 cores, but I thought the Mac used Intel CPUs. Not a pretty as a Mac,but packing more punch[^]

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                                    • C Christian Graus

                                      I have EIGHT processors, and when IE is loading a page, or refreshing, my whole computer locks up. What is that about ? 20 GB RAM, but I am running 32 bit, so 3 GB available.

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                      DaveX86
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                                      I have no problems with IE...maybe you should quit screwing around with all your settings...you're obviously no good at it :)

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                                      • C Christian Graus

                                        I may try that. The latest Firefox is no better, which is why I am on IE.

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        JimmyRopes
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                                        Christian Graus wrote:

                                        The latest Firefox is no better

                                        May I suggest Opera. I have been using it for years now and it is still less than 3% of the browsers out there. I consider it a security feature. Not that security by obscurity is any security at all, but put yourself in the hackers position. Would you write custom code to target less than 2% of the population when there are such target rich environments out there. Once I started using it I ended up liking it. Give it a try, you might like it. PS - it is also the most W3C complaint browser, but just getting your web page to render properly on Opera isn't the end of the story. You then need to get the big 2, IE and FF, to render properly. Most people use them.

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                                        • E Electron Shepherd

                                          harold aptroot wrote:

                                          Locking it to one core would free up the other cores.

                                          Free them up? They aren't locked. I don't think you understand how the Windows scheduler works. Write a program that starts a thread, and locks it. For example, the code WaitForSingleObject(GetCurrenthThread(), INFINITE); will do. Run it on single core system. Run four instances on a four core system. Notice that the whole computer doesn't lock up.

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                                          Lost User
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                                          What? That doesn't have anything to do with it - you are making the thread wait, not making it lock up the computer

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