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  • M Media2r

    Okay, let me start by stating that while I consider myself "proficient" within the programming and scripting technologies I am familiar with, I would in all likelihood be at the lower end of the food chain at any given programmers conference. Nonetheless, consideing the collective brain trust in here I figured I'd raise a question; Have any of you experienced feeling immense joy in accomplishing a feat that is on the very edge of your programming capabilities, only to feel shame and/or irritation when revisiting the same piece of code a short while later - in the realisation that said code could be written to run n times faster, or utilizing r times less resources? Happens to me frequently. So many times have I revisited code I wrote but a few weeks earlier, only to think "what drugs was I on while writing this crap???". Frustrating. //L

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    moon_stick
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    Constantly. Though once in a while, I'm also suprised to find that I've written a piece of code of such decent quality that it balances things out!

    It definitely isn't definatley

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      The silver lining to that thought is that you are a good enough programmer now so that it's easier not to make the same mistakes in the future. If you revisit code a year after is was "finished", and think you could do a lot better, then you have the drive and motivation to do so. Whether or not you have the time is a completely different matter altogether.

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      Media2r
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      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

      Whether or not you have the time is a completely different matter altogether.

      Spot on. //L

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      • M Media2r

        Okay, let me start by stating that while I consider myself "proficient" within the programming and scripting technologies I am familiar with, I would in all likelihood be at the lower end of the food chain at any given programmers conference. Nonetheless, consideing the collective brain trust in here I figured I'd raise a question; Have any of you experienced feeling immense joy in accomplishing a feat that is on the very edge of your programming capabilities, only to feel shame and/or irritation when revisiting the same piece of code a short while later - in the realisation that said code could be written to run n times faster, or utilizing r times less resources? Happens to me frequently. So many times have I revisited code I wrote but a few weeks earlier, only to think "what drugs was I on while writing this crap???". Frustrating. //L

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        Ian Shlasko
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        Yes, all the time... When I'm looking through software I wrote five years ago... The usual thought is something like, "What the #*%$@## was I thinking?"

        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in? Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)

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        • M Media2r

          Okay, let me start by stating that while I consider myself "proficient" within the programming and scripting technologies I am familiar with, I would in all likelihood be at the lower end of the food chain at any given programmers conference. Nonetheless, consideing the collective brain trust in here I figured I'd raise a question; Have any of you experienced feeling immense joy in accomplishing a feat that is on the very edge of your programming capabilities, only to feel shame and/or irritation when revisiting the same piece of code a short while later - in the realisation that said code could be written to run n times faster, or utilizing r times less resources? Happens to me frequently. So many times have I revisited code I wrote but a few weeks earlier, only to think "what drugs was I on while writing this crap???". Frustrating. //L

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          Nelek
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          It doesn't need to be weeks, just one or two days is sometimes enough. As Michael Jackson told... you are not alone! :-O

          Regards. -------- M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpfull answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          • M Media2r

            Okay, let me start by stating that while I consider myself "proficient" within the programming and scripting technologies I am familiar with, I would in all likelihood be at the lower end of the food chain at any given programmers conference. Nonetheless, consideing the collective brain trust in here I figured I'd raise a question; Have any of you experienced feeling immense joy in accomplishing a feat that is on the very edge of your programming capabilities, only to feel shame and/or irritation when revisiting the same piece of code a short while later - in the realisation that said code could be written to run n times faster, or utilizing r times less resources? Happens to me frequently. So many times have I revisited code I wrote but a few weeks earlier, only to think "what drugs was I on while writing this crap???". Frustrating. //L

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            Rajesh R Subramanian
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            I feel your pain. :)

            “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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            • M Media2r

              Okay, let me start by stating that while I consider myself "proficient" within the programming and scripting technologies I am familiar with, I would in all likelihood be at the lower end of the food chain at any given programmers conference. Nonetheless, consideing the collective brain trust in here I figured I'd raise a question; Have any of you experienced feeling immense joy in accomplishing a feat that is on the very edge of your programming capabilities, only to feel shame and/or irritation when revisiting the same piece of code a short while later - in the realisation that said code could be written to run n times faster, or utilizing r times less resources? Happens to me frequently. So many times have I revisited code I wrote but a few weeks earlier, only to think "what drugs was I on while writing this crap???". Frustrating. //L

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              Mark_Wallace
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              Media2r wrote:

              feel shame and/or irritation when revisiting the same piece of code a short while later - in the realisation that said code could be written to run n times faster, or utilizing r times less resources?

              If you didn't, you're either the absolutely perfect coder (who doesn't exist) or you've stagnated.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              • M Media2r

                Okay, let me start by stating that while I consider myself "proficient" within the programming and scripting technologies I am familiar with, I would in all likelihood be at the lower end of the food chain at any given programmers conference. Nonetheless, consideing the collective brain trust in here I figured I'd raise a question; Have any of you experienced feeling immense joy in accomplishing a feat that is on the very edge of your programming capabilities, only to feel shame and/or irritation when revisiting the same piece of code a short while later - in the realisation that said code could be written to run n times faster, or utilizing r times less resources? Happens to me frequently. So many times have I revisited code I wrote but a few weeks earlier, only to think "what drugs was I on while writing this crap???". Frustrating. //L

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                Christopher Duncan
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                Absolutely! With my coding. With my books and columns. With my songwriting. Pretty much anything / everything I've ever created. I think your experience is a positive thing. If you can't look back on stuff you did in the past and cringe a little, it means you're not growing in your art. The day you should start worrying is when you look back and feel comfortable that absolutely no improvements could be made. :)

                Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Copywriting Services

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                • M Media2r

                  Okay, let me start by stating that while I consider myself "proficient" within the programming and scripting technologies I am familiar with, I would in all likelihood be at the lower end of the food chain at any given programmers conference. Nonetheless, consideing the collective brain trust in here I figured I'd raise a question; Have any of you experienced feeling immense joy in accomplishing a feat that is on the very edge of your programming capabilities, only to feel shame and/or irritation when revisiting the same piece of code a short while later - in the realisation that said code could be written to run n times faster, or utilizing r times less resources? Happens to me frequently. So many times have I revisited code I wrote but a few weeks earlier, only to think "what drugs was I on while writing this crap???". Frustrating. //L

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                  John M Drescher
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                  I do this every time I take on a new platform.

                  John

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                  • M Media2r

                    Okay, let me start by stating that while I consider myself "proficient" within the programming and scripting technologies I am familiar with, I would in all likelihood be at the lower end of the food chain at any given programmers conference. Nonetheless, consideing the collective brain trust in here I figured I'd raise a question; Have any of you experienced feeling immense joy in accomplishing a feat that is on the very edge of your programming capabilities, only to feel shame and/or irritation when revisiting the same piece of code a short while later - in the realisation that said code could be written to run n times faster, or utilizing r times less resources? Happens to me frequently. So many times have I revisited code I wrote but a few weeks earlier, only to think "what drugs was I on while writing this crap???". Frustrating. //L

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                    Single Step Debugger
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                    Realizing that you are not and don’t need to be a “Genius” and you probably aren’t the sharpest pencil in the box is very important for every professional. So yes, it happens to me too, time to time. :)

                    The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word. Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                    • M Media2r

                      Okay, let me start by stating that while I consider myself "proficient" within the programming and scripting technologies I am familiar with, I would in all likelihood be at the lower end of the food chain at any given programmers conference. Nonetheless, consideing the collective brain trust in here I figured I'd raise a question; Have any of you experienced feeling immense joy in accomplishing a feat that is on the very edge of your programming capabilities, only to feel shame and/or irritation when revisiting the same piece of code a short while later - in the realisation that said code could be written to run n times faster, or utilizing r times less resources? Happens to me frequently. So many times have I revisited code I wrote but a few weeks earlier, only to think "what drugs was I on while writing this crap???". Frustrating. //L

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                      Dr Walt Fair PE
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                      That's a very common occurrence. I haven't found any code I couldn't write better the second or third time around.

                      CQ de W5ALT

                      Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                      • M Media2r

                        Okay, let me start by stating that while I consider myself "proficient" within the programming and scripting technologies I am familiar with, I would in all likelihood be at the lower end of the food chain at any given programmers conference. Nonetheless, consideing the collective brain trust in here I figured I'd raise a question; Have any of you experienced feeling immense joy in accomplishing a feat that is on the very edge of your programming capabilities, only to feel shame and/or irritation when revisiting the same piece of code a short while later - in the realisation that said code could be written to run n times faster, or utilizing r times less resources? Happens to me frequently. So many times have I revisited code I wrote but a few weeks earlier, only to think "what drugs was I on while writing this crap???". Frustrating. //L

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                        Russell Jones
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                        I have never had this happen to me. All my code is always optimum. In fact, without fail, my code uses negative processor cycles thus making the machine run faster the harder my applications are run ;-)

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                          I have never had this happen to me. All my code is always optimum. In fact, without fail, my code uses negative processor cycles thus making the machine run faster the harder my applications are run ;-)

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                          Media2r
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                          ;P [Insert Large Hadron Collider joke here] //L

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                          • M Media2r

                            Okay, let me start by stating that while I consider myself "proficient" within the programming and scripting technologies I am familiar with, I would in all likelihood be at the lower end of the food chain at any given programmers conference. Nonetheless, consideing the collective brain trust in here I figured I'd raise a question; Have any of you experienced feeling immense joy in accomplishing a feat that is on the very edge of your programming capabilities, only to feel shame and/or irritation when revisiting the same piece of code a short while later - in the realisation that said code could be written to run n times faster, or utilizing r times less resources? Happens to me frequently. So many times have I revisited code I wrote but a few weeks earlier, only to think "what drugs was I on while writing this crap???". Frustrating. //L

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                            Russell Jones
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                            Seriously I think this will always happen as the brain is always working out better ways of doing things even after you have completed the task. So if you go back to something a while after the brain will almost always have dreamt up a better way of achieving the same goal.

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                            • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                              I feel your pain. :)

                              “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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                              Media2r
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                              Although the sentiment is much appreciated, I doubt it - I've got an inflammation on my jaw the size of Nebraska today. Every heartbeat feels like someone kicking me in the face. :sigh: //L

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                                I have never had this happen to me. All my code is always optimum. In fact, without fail, my code uses negative processor cycles thus making the machine run faster the harder my applications are run ;-)

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                                John M Drescher
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                                :laugh:

                                John

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                                • M Media2r

                                  Although the sentiment is much appreciated, I doubt it - I've got an inflammation on my jaw the size of Nebraska today. Every heartbeat feels like someone kicking me in the face. :sigh: //L

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                                  Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                  Probably someone is actually kicking you in the face? You might want to double check if your manager is around. :)

                                  “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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                                  • R Russell Jones

                                    I have never had this happen to me. All my code is always optimum. In fact, without fail, my code uses negative processor cycles thus making the machine run faster the harder my applications are run ;-)

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                                    Rajesh R Subramanian
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                                    Russell Jones wrote:

                                    my code uses negative processor cycles thus making the machine run faster the harder my applications are run

                                    That reminds me of the april fool prank blog post on an msdn page which described about an "improvement" to the Sleep() command such that it accepts negative values. :laugh:

                                    “Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell

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                                    • M Media2r

                                      Although the sentiment is much appreciated, I doubt it - I've got an inflammation on my jaw the size of Nebraska today. Every heartbeat feels like someone kicking me in the face. :sigh: //L

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                                      Flynn Arrowstarr Regular Schmoe
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                                      Check your boss' office for voodoo dolls? :-\ Flynn

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                                      • M Media2r

                                        Okay, let me start by stating that while I consider myself "proficient" within the programming and scripting technologies I am familiar with, I would in all likelihood be at the lower end of the food chain at any given programmers conference. Nonetheless, consideing the collective brain trust in here I figured I'd raise a question; Have any of you experienced feeling immense joy in accomplishing a feat that is on the very edge of your programming capabilities, only to feel shame and/or irritation when revisiting the same piece of code a short while later - in the realisation that said code could be written to run n times faster, or utilizing r times less resources? Happens to me frequently. So many times have I revisited code I wrote but a few weeks earlier, only to think "what drugs was I on while writing this crap???". Frustrating. //L

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                                        Marc Clifton
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                                        Media2r wrote:

                                        So many times have I revisited code I wrote but a few weeks earlier, only to think "what drugs was I on while writing this crap???"

                                        Of course, but the fact that you can recognize that is wonderful! I wouldn't beat yourself up about it. Anytime you create something, you do the best you can, then as time goes on and you critique your own work, learn new skills and techinques, when you go back, you'll see the flaws of your previous work. It's perfectly normal. Marc

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                                        • M Media2r

                                          Although the sentiment is much appreciated, I doubt it - I've got an inflammation on my jaw the size of Nebraska today. Every heartbeat feels like someone kicking me in the face. :sigh: //L

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                                          Gary Wheeler
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                                          So... what did you do to piss off Chuck Norris?

                                          Software Zen: delete this;

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