Zucchini
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So, every year we grow yellow zucchini, b/c once we have that in, we never eat any other type. This year, I've cooked with it twice and both times it's so bitter that it renders any food cooked remotely near it to be inedible. Any CP gardeners have any idea how this could happen ? They look great, the plant is growing great, at one point some leaves were a little yellow, so I gave it some plant food. It's growing in an area that was basically clay, so I bought bags of potting mix to put a layer on top. The cucumber and the lettuce from that area taste great, and the chilis and capsicum ( peppers for Yanks ) are also growing well.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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So, every year we grow yellow zucchini, b/c once we have that in, we never eat any other type. This year, I've cooked with it twice and both times it's so bitter that it renders any food cooked remotely near it to be inedible. Any CP gardeners have any idea how this could happen ? They look great, the plant is growing great, at one point some leaves were a little yellow, so I gave it some plant food. It's growing in an area that was basically clay, so I bought bags of potting mix to put a layer on top. The cucumber and the lettuce from that area taste great, and the chilis and capsicum ( peppers for Yanks ) are also growing well.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Could this possibly be a problem due to not rotating your crops? Maybe there is something missing from the soil that is effecting the taste of the fruit because you have planted it in the same area time and time again? I know this can effect growth, I wonder if it could effect taste also. I never gave it a thought but perhaps the flavor would go first and then you may possibly start to see that in the next few years the fruit itself would be not as robust. I would think that there could be several things missing from the soil that could affect the taste, or maybe even a buildup of something form some of the surrounding plants. Just a thought. Maybe try moving your plants around next season or getting the soil tested at the various points in your garden to see if you have areas of differing chemistry.
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So, every year we grow yellow zucchini, b/c once we have that in, we never eat any other type. This year, I've cooked with it twice and both times it's so bitter that it renders any food cooked remotely near it to be inedible. Any CP gardeners have any idea how this could happen ? They look great, the plant is growing great, at one point some leaves were a little yellow, so I gave it some plant food. It's growing in an area that was basically clay, so I bought bags of potting mix to put a layer on top. The cucumber and the lettuce from that area taste great, and the chilis and capsicum ( peppers for Yanks ) are also growing well.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Could this possibly be a problem due to not rotating your crops? Maybe there is something missing from the soil that is effecting the taste of the fruit because you have planted it in the same area time and time again? I know this can effect growth, I wonder if it could effect taste also. I never gave it a thought but perhaps the flavor would go first and then you may possibly start to see that in the next few years the fruit itself would be not as robust. I would think that there could be several things missing from the soil that could affect the taste, or maybe even a buildup of something form some of the surrounding plants. Just a thought. Maybe try moving your plants around next season or getting the soil tested at the various points in your garden to see if you have areas of differing chemistry.
No, we rotate our crops, every year. And, as I said, I'm planting in brand new potting mix, not old soil. We rotate for many reasons, like using beans and peas to fix nitrogen in our soil. The big thing is to try to stop disease in the tomatoes tho, in which we have failed, they all have some sort of fungus on them this year. I am using a weeper hose to water, but we've had tons of rain, so all the leaves have been wet. It's a race now, to see if the fruit sets before the plants die.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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So, every year we grow yellow zucchini, b/c once we have that in, we never eat any other type. This year, I've cooked with it twice and both times it's so bitter that it renders any food cooked remotely near it to be inedible. Any CP gardeners have any idea how this could happen ? They look great, the plant is growing great, at one point some leaves were a little yellow, so I gave it some plant food. It's growing in an area that was basically clay, so I bought bags of potting mix to put a layer on top. The cucumber and the lettuce from that area taste great, and the chilis and capsicum ( peppers for Yanks ) are also growing well.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
And here I thought Lloyd's Heavy Metal Farmer post below was off target...
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Copywriting Services
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And here I thought Lloyd's Heavy Metal Farmer post below was off target...
Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Copywriting Services
LOL - no. We have chickens and sheep. We are harvesting blueberries right now, and I'm cutting back boysenberries, their harvest being over. The raspberries may give a second crop, so they are fine as they are. Last night, I served my own potatoes, beans, carrots ( orange, white and purple ) and the dreaded zucchini.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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So, every year we grow yellow zucchini, b/c once we have that in, we never eat any other type. This year, I've cooked with it twice and both times it's so bitter that it renders any food cooked remotely near it to be inedible. Any CP gardeners have any idea how this could happen ? They look great, the plant is growing great, at one point some leaves were a little yellow, so I gave it some plant food. It's growing in an area that was basically clay, so I bought bags of potting mix to put a layer on top. The cucumber and the lettuce from that area taste great, and the chilis and capsicum ( peppers for Yanks ) are also growing well.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Christian Graus wrote:
Why must Americans always have strange names for things ?
Says the Aussie that calls peppers "capsicum"... :doh:
ROTFL - you've got it backwards, you call capsicum 'peppers', even tho they are not hot.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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So, every year we grow yellow zucchini, b/c once we have that in, we never eat any other type. This year, I've cooked with it twice and both times it's so bitter that it renders any food cooked remotely near it to be inedible. Any CP gardeners have any idea how this could happen ? They look great, the plant is growing great, at one point some leaves were a little yellow, so I gave it some plant food. It's growing in an area that was basically clay, so I bought bags of potting mix to put a layer on top. The cucumber and the lettuce from that area taste great, and the chilis and capsicum ( peppers for Yanks ) are also growing well.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Water and temperature are usually the culprits. Did you have any temperature swings or did you over-water that area? Perhaps it wasn't drained well.
And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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Thanks - the one potentially useful thing they suggest is lack of water. I've been watering sparingly and using a weeper hose, which I've never done before, because this year my big concern is not getting my tomato leaves wet, as they have a fungus on them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Water and temperature are usually the culprits. Did you have any temperature swings or did you over-water that area? Perhaps it wasn't drained well.
And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
We've had tons of rain, and the temperature has been up and down as a result. I've under watered if anything, using a weeper hose to try to keep water off my tomato leaves as I can't kill the fungus on them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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We've had tons of rain, and the temperature has been up and down as a result. I've under watered if anything, using a weeper hose to try to keep water off my tomato leaves as I can't kill the fungus on them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Sounds like this may well be the cause. Do you grow any cucumbers? They are affected by this pretty easily as well, I've had beautiful crops ruined by this.
And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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I'd have thought corgette came from the frogs!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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So, every year we grow yellow zucchini, b/c once we have that in, we never eat any other type. This year, I've cooked with it twice and both times it's so bitter that it renders any food cooked remotely near it to be inedible. Any CP gardeners have any idea how this could happen ? They look great, the plant is growing great, at one point some leaves were a little yellow, so I gave it some plant food. It's growing in an area that was basically clay, so I bought bags of potting mix to put a layer on top. The cucumber and the lettuce from that area taste great, and the chilis and capsicum ( peppers for Yanks ) are also growing well.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Most cucurbits (cucumbers, melons, and squashes) naturally produce toxins called cucurbitacins. When there is not enough water, low soil fertility, adverse temperatures, and/or the wrong soil pH, the plants produce more of this toxin, making their fruits taste bitter. You could also have simply gotten a bad batch of seeds, from plants that were too near wild varieties of cucurbits. Wild plants in the cucurbit family often produce a lot more cucurbitacins than their domesticated counterparts. Cucurbitacins are produced by plants to protect themselves from herbivores, which is why they produce more in stress conditions. The taste is said to be one of the bitterest of all plant compounds.
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So, every year we grow yellow zucchini, b/c once we have that in, we never eat any other type. This year, I've cooked with it twice and both times it's so bitter that it renders any food cooked remotely near it to be inedible. Any CP gardeners have any idea how this could happen ? They look great, the plant is growing great, at one point some leaves were a little yellow, so I gave it some plant food. It's growing in an area that was basically clay, so I bought bags of potting mix to put a layer on top. The cucumber and the lettuce from that area taste great, and the chilis and capsicum ( peppers for Yanks ) are also growing well.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
twice and both times it's so bitter
Try soaking them in salt water for a few hours first. Marc
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ROTFL - you've got it backwards, you call capsicum 'peppers', even tho they are not hot.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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So, every year we grow yellow zucchini, b/c once we have that in, we never eat any other type. This year, I've cooked with it twice and both times it's so bitter that it renders any food cooked remotely near it to be inedible. Any CP gardeners have any idea how this could happen ? They look great, the plant is growing great, at one point some leaves were a little yellow, so I gave it some plant food. It's growing in an area that was basically clay, so I bought bags of potting mix to put a layer on top. The cucumber and the lettuce from that area taste great, and the chilis and capsicum ( peppers for Yanks ) are also growing well.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Zucchini is part of the Cucurbitacea Family. The members of this family produce cucurbitacins, and they can cause the plant to have a bitter taste. Cucumbers will produce more cucurbitacins based on many of environmental growing conditions, and can usually be controlled. The zucchinis that produce high amounts of this chemical are thought to be caused by a gene in the plant instead. Therefore, there is probably nothing you can do about it, and in fact you should remove the plant from your garden, and make sure not to use any of the seeds from this plant for your next crop. Here is a link that has some good info: http://www.donnan.com/Zucchini.htm[^]
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We've had tons of rain, and the temperature has been up and down as a result. I've under watered if anything, using a weeper hose to try to keep water off my tomato leaves as I can't kill the fungus on them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Yep, weeper hoses are very good for that. I've also found over the years that although moist conditions on the leaves help the fungi grow, the most important factor in whether the tomato plants succumb to the diseases is whether the soil is bare or covered with clean mulch (I use up to 3 inches of it). The primary source of the disease is the soil, and if the soil is exposed, the fungi will reach the leaves, whether by drifting or by tiny droplets of water splashing up. Also, if you mix a tsp of baking soda and a tsp of soap flakes (not detergent) in a qt/litre of water and spray it on the leaves from time to time starting when the plants are 8-10 inches high, it helps protect them from disease (doesn't kill it when it's established but makes conditions unfavorable). Also when the plants get big, take off the leaves at the very bottom, eventually up to 6 in from the ground.
