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  • W wout de zeeuw

    Hmm, download section says: x86/amd64. Does this mean they don't support intel x64?

    Wout

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    Daniel Grunwald
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    Intel has two 64-bit architectures: their first try was the Itanium 64 (IA-64), which is totally unlike x86. You won't find it on desktop PCs, only on servers. The architecture used by Intel 64-bit desktops is the one invented by AMD, named AMD64 or x64 (basically, it's x86 with 64-bit extensions).

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    • S SalarSoft

      Sorry for not related post but I can't stand on it! The only thing I know is Virtual PC drinks RAM and eats CPU. So i just simply uninstalled it and switched to VMWare

      www.softprojects.org

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      Rob Graham
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      VMware is no better in my opinion. It used to be great, but has gotten worse with each release, of late.

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        Intel has two 64-bit architectures: their first try was the Itanium 64 (IA-64), which is totally unlike x86. You won't find it on desktop PCs, only on servers. The architecture used by Intel 64-bit desktops is the one invented by AMD, named AMD64 or x64 (basically, it's x86 with 64-bit extensions).

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        wout de zeeuw
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        Didn't know that, thanks for that bit of useful information! Bad marketing from the virtualbox guys though (typical gnu ofcourse).

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        • R Rob Graham

          VMware is no better in my opinion. It used to be great, but has gotten worse with each release, of late.

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          wout de zeeuw
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          Oh, what happened? Is VirtualBox better?

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          • W wout de zeeuw

            I'm just trying compiling my old software with VS 2005 in Virtual PC 2007. My main OS is Win 7 64-bit since this week. Compilation is painfully slow in VPC. Could it be VPC doesn't handle running a 32-bit OS in a 64-bit environment too well? EDIT: culprit seems to be the shared folder being extremely slow. Apparently it is intended to just move around a couple of tiny files! *curse*

            Wout

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            Ed Poore
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            If you want to try out creating your own VMs for VMWare without forking out for the Workstation edition (which is what I think you'd need) then you can get the player and try creating VMs from http://www.easyvmx.com/[^]

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            • E Ed Poore

              If you want to try out creating your own VMs for VMWare without forking out for the Workstation edition (which is what I think you'd need) then you can get the player and try creating VMs from http://www.easyvmx.com/[^]

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              wout de zeeuw
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              New territory, I'm getting scared! :~ No need to have a windows disc/key for the guest OS?

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              • W wout de zeeuw

                New territory, I'm getting scared! :~ No need to have a windows disc/key for the guest OS?

                Wout

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                Ed Poore
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                wout de zeeuw wrote:

                No need to have a windows disc/key for the guest OS?

                You'll still need that because it'll only create the necessary files for you to then select an ISO / disk to install it.


                I doubt it. If it isn't intuitive then we need to fix it. - Chris Maunder

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                • W wout de zeeuw

                  I'm just trying compiling my old software with VS 2005 in Virtual PC 2007. My main OS is Win 7 64-bit since this week. Compilation is painfully slow in VPC. Could it be VPC doesn't handle running a 32-bit OS in a 64-bit environment too well? EDIT: culprit seems to be the shared folder being extremely slow. Apparently it is intended to just move around a couple of tiny files! *curse*

                  Wout

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                  Rod Kemp
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                  One thing I found was that if after starting your VPC or VMWare virtual machine don't log in just minimise it and access it through Remote Desktop, I found that the UI is much more responsive this way. BTW did you know that under Win7 you can mount the VPC virtual hard drives and access them like normal hard drives and also boot from them. How to use Virtual Hard Disks as Real Hard Disks in Windows 7[^]

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                  • R Rod Kemp

                    One thing I found was that if after starting your VPC or VMWare virtual machine don't log in just minimise it and access it through Remote Desktop, I found that the UI is much more responsive this way. BTW did you know that under Win7 you can mount the VPC virtual hard drives and access them like normal hard drives and also boot from them. How to use Virtual Hard Disks as Real Hard Disks in Windows 7[^]

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                    wout de zeeuw
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                    Didn't know that, but sounds very useful. Thanks for the tips! :beer:

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                    • W wout de zeeuw

                      I'm just trying compiling my old software with VS 2005 in Virtual PC 2007. My main OS is Win 7 64-bit since this week. Compilation is painfully slow in VPC. Could it be VPC doesn't handle running a 32-bit OS in a 64-bit environment too well? EDIT: culprit seems to be the shared folder being extremely slow. Apparently it is intended to just move around a couple of tiny files! *curse*

                      Wout

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                      We have a few older build environments (VC6/VS2003) running under HyperV-Server, no complainst so far.

                      Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
                      | FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server

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                      • R Rod Kemp

                        One thing I found was that if after starting your VPC or VMWare virtual machine don't log in just minimise it and access it through Remote Desktop, I found that the UI is much more responsive this way. BTW did you know that under Win7 you can mount the VPC virtual hard drives and access them like normal hard drives and also boot from them. How to use Virtual Hard Disks as Real Hard Disks in Windows 7[^]

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                        It's one of the cool geeky features I like about W7.

                        Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel]
                        | FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server

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                        • W wout de zeeuw

                          I'm just trying compiling my old software with VS 2005 in Virtual PC 2007. My main OS is Win 7 64-bit since this week. Compilation is painfully slow in VPC. Could it be VPC doesn't handle running a 32-bit OS in a 64-bit environment too well? EDIT: culprit seems to be the shared folder being extremely slow. Apparently it is intended to just move around a couple of tiny files! *curse*

                          Wout

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                          Dave Parker
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                          I had problems with corrupted files when I tried using shared folders in VMware the other day. I found accessing the host via a network share worked more reliably. In my case though I used synctoy to sync files between the host and guest (it was an outlook PST file that lived on the host that I was trying to access from the guest as I have an outlook add-in that I can't run on the host as it breaks when I install OneNote 2007).

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                          • C Chris Austin

                            Virtual PC is complete garbage; absolutely the worst hypervisor on the market in my opinion. Look at VirtualBox or VMWare.

                            And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                            wout de zeeuw
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                            Thanks for suggesting VirtualBox. I've used it a couple of days now, and I can build using my old development environment quite nicely now! :jig:

                            Wout

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