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    Gary Wheeler
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    ... because it's password changing day. Our domain policy is that passwords expire every 45 days :thumbsdown:. You start getting warnings at 30 days. Since I despise annoying warning messages, I make a habit of changing my password on the first workday of the month. To change my password, I have to enter the old one four times, and the new one 13 times: - Corporate intranet web site to actually change the domain password. - Change Blotus Goatse X| password to match domain, otherwise Bad Things Happen to your e-mail. - Change password on 3 scheduled tasks on desk computer. - Change password on scheduled task on department build machine.

    Software Zen: delete this;

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      ... because it's password changing day. Our domain policy is that passwords expire every 45 days :thumbsdown:. You start getting warnings at 30 days. Since I despise annoying warning messages, I make a habit of changing my password on the first workday of the month. To change my password, I have to enter the old one four times, and the new one 13 times: - Corporate intranet web site to actually change the domain password. - Change Blotus Goatse X| password to match domain, otherwise Bad Things Happen to your e-mail. - Change password on 3 scheduled tasks on desk computer. - Change password on scheduled task on department build machine.

      Software Zen: delete this;

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      Media2r
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      ...and a partridge in a pear tree. //L

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        ... because it's password changing day. Our domain policy is that passwords expire every 45 days :thumbsdown:. You start getting warnings at 30 days. Since I despise annoying warning messages, I make a habit of changing my password on the first workday of the month. To change my password, I have to enter the old one four times, and the new one 13 times: - Corporate intranet web site to actually change the domain password. - Change Blotus Goatse X| password to match domain, otherwise Bad Things Happen to your e-mail. - Change password on 3 scheduled tasks on desk computer. - Change password on scheduled task on department build machine.

        Software Zen: delete this;

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        Rage
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        Yeah, same here. The second problem being that they all have different rules about length, number of special signs, digits, ... I even thought about maintaining a list. When too much security kills security :~

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          ... because it's password changing day. Our domain policy is that passwords expire every 45 days :thumbsdown:. You start getting warnings at 30 days. Since I despise annoying warning messages, I make a habit of changing my password on the first workday of the month. To change my password, I have to enter the old one four times, and the new one 13 times: - Corporate intranet web site to actually change the domain password. - Change Blotus Goatse X| password to match domain, otherwise Bad Things Happen to your e-mail. - Change password on 3 scheduled tasks on desk computer. - Change password on scheduled task on department build machine.

          Software Zen: delete this;

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          Keith Barrow
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          Gary Wheeler wrote:

          Our domain policy is that passwords expire every 45 days . You start getting warnings at 30 days.

          I feel you pain on this one: our passwords must change every 30 days, but we start getting warnings after 15 days!

          Gary Wheeler wrote:

          To change my password, I have to enter the old one four times

          At least ours are synchronised. The solution to this is :beer: followed by :beer: followed by :beer:

          CCC solved so far: 2 (including a Hard One!) 37!?!! - Randall, Clerks

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            ... because it's password changing day. Our domain policy is that passwords expire every 45 days :thumbsdown:. You start getting warnings at 30 days. Since I despise annoying warning messages, I make a habit of changing my password on the first workday of the month. To change my password, I have to enter the old one four times, and the new one 13 times: - Corporate intranet web site to actually change the domain password. - Change Blotus Goatse X| password to match domain, otherwise Bad Things Happen to your e-mail. - Change password on 3 scheduled tasks on desk computer. - Change password on scheduled task on department build machine.

            Software Zen: delete this;

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            Abhinav S
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            Gary Wheeler wrote:

            old one four times, and the new one 13 times

            Ouch.

            Me, I'm dishonest. And a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest.
            Honestly. It's the honest ones you want to watch out for...

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              Yeah, same here. The second problem being that they all have different rules about length, number of special signs, digits, ... I even thought about maintaining a list. When too much security kills security :~

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              Gary Wheeler
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              Our password rules: >= 6 characters, must include at least one each upper case letter, lower case letter, numeric digit, and punctuation character. Passwords may not be re-used within the last 50 passwords. The end result is that almost everyone develops a formula for their password that includes the numeric month: "01:Crap", "Crap.01", that sort of thing.

              Software Zen: delete this;

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                ... because it's password changing day. Our domain policy is that passwords expire every 45 days :thumbsdown:. You start getting warnings at 30 days. Since I despise annoying warning messages, I make a habit of changing my password on the first workday of the month. To change my password, I have to enter the old one four times, and the new one 13 times: - Corporate intranet web site to actually change the domain password. - Change Blotus Goatse X| password to match domain, otherwise Bad Things Happen to your e-mail. - Change password on 3 scheduled tasks on desk computer. - Change password on scheduled task on department build machine.

                Software Zen: delete this;

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                Christopher Duncan
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                The best way to secure a system is to make it such a PITA that no one will ever use it. Microsoft tried that with Vista, but could only get it partially secure. They're trying again with Weven and have Christian beta testing the attempt.

                Christopher Duncan www.PracticalUSA.com Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Copywriting Services

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                  ... because it's password changing day. Our domain policy is that passwords expire every 45 days :thumbsdown:. You start getting warnings at 30 days. Since I despise annoying warning messages, I make a habit of changing my password on the first workday of the month. To change my password, I have to enter the old one four times, and the new one 13 times: - Corporate intranet web site to actually change the domain password. - Change Blotus Goatse X| password to match domain, otherwise Bad Things Happen to your e-mail. - Change password on 3 scheduled tasks on desk computer. - Change password on scheduled task on department build machine.

                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                  Dave Parker
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                  Drives me nuts too. With the scheduled tasks, providing they don't need to access any network shares etc you could always create a local user with a non-expiring password and run the tasks as that user. That's what I've done before for defrag tasks etc.

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                    Drives me nuts too. With the scheduled tasks, providing they don't need to access any network shares etc you could always create a local user with a non-expiring password and run the tasks as that user. That's what I've done before for defrag tasks etc.

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                    Gary Wheeler
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                    In my role as the DSJB*, I use scheduled tasks a lot. All of mine unfortunately require domain credentials. * DSJB = Departmental Shit Job Boy

                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                      ... because it's password changing day. Our domain policy is that passwords expire every 45 days :thumbsdown:. You start getting warnings at 30 days. Since I despise annoying warning messages, I make a habit of changing my password on the first workday of the month. To change my password, I have to enter the old one four times, and the new one 13 times: - Corporate intranet web site to actually change the domain password. - Change Blotus Goatse X| password to match domain, otherwise Bad Things Happen to your e-mail. - Change password on 3 scheduled tasks on desk computer. - Change password on scheduled task on department build machine.

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      phannon86
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                      Seems like ours is pretty friendly compared to most on here. Password changes every 90 days, warnings 14 days prior, and must not be reset to the past 3 passwords used.

                      He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.

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                        Our password rules: >= 6 characters, must include at least one each upper case letter, lower case letter, numeric digit, and punctuation character. Passwords may not be re-used within the last 50 passwords. The end result is that almost everyone develops a formula for their password that includes the numeric month: "01:Crap", "Crap.01", that sort of thing.

                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                        SachinBhave
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                        Gary Wheeler wrote:

                        Passwords may not be re-used within the last 50 passwords.

                        OMG :omg: Luckily we have only 10 to deal with

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                          Gary Wheeler wrote:

                          Passwords may not be re-used within the last 50 passwords.

                          OMG :omg: Luckily we have only 10 to deal with

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                          Gary Wheeler
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                          I think they were trying to prevent people from changing their password 'N' times in order to clear the list, and then restore their original password.

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                            Our password rules: >= 6 characters, must include at least one each upper case letter, lower case letter, numeric digit, and punctuation character. Passwords may not be re-used within the last 50 passwords. The end result is that almost everyone develops a formula for their password that includes the numeric month: "01:Crap", "Crap.01", that sort of thing.

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                            Peter Mulholland
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                            I used to use a book or song title, using upper case for the first letter of each word and replacing vowels with numeric digits: A=4, E=3, i=1, o=0 (i don't have a replacement for u). You could use '!' in place of 'i' and try to always use a title with 'i' in it. What ever i happened to be listening to on my MP3 player when the change password prompt showed up usually became my password for the month.

                            Pete

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                              ... because it's password changing day. Our domain policy is that passwords expire every 45 days :thumbsdown:. You start getting warnings at 30 days. Since I despise annoying warning messages, I make a habit of changing my password on the first workday of the month. To change my password, I have to enter the old one four times, and the new one 13 times: - Corporate intranet web site to actually change the domain password. - Change Blotus Goatse X| password to match domain, otherwise Bad Things Happen to your e-mail. - Change password on 3 scheduled tasks on desk computer. - Change password on scheduled task on department build machine.

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                              Gandalf_TheWhite
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                              Gary Wheeler wrote:

                              have to enter the old one four times, and the new one 13 times

                              Messy :wtf: That's not fair. :confused:

                              Believe Yourself™

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                                I think they were trying to prevent people from changing their password 'N' times in order to clear the list, and then restore their original password.

                                Software Zen: delete this;

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                                Dan Neely
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                                Is that check performed on each application? I suspect they underestimate the power of human stupidity. What they need is a you can't use any password from the last 6 years type policy. :rolleyes:

                                3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                  ... because it's password changing day. Our domain policy is that passwords expire every 45 days :thumbsdown:. You start getting warnings at 30 days. Since I despise annoying warning messages, I make a habit of changing my password on the first workday of the month. To change my password, I have to enter the old one four times, and the new one 13 times: - Corporate intranet web site to actually change the domain password. - Change Blotus Goatse X| password to match domain, otherwise Bad Things Happen to your e-mail. - Change password on 3 scheduled tasks on desk computer. - Change password on scheduled task on department build machine.

                                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                                  Dan Neely
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                                  Did that a week ago myself: Domain: 1 + 2 Legacy Intranet: 1 + 1 Time collection: 1 + 2 Irrational Clearquest: 0 + 2 Irrational Train ReqPro (1 + 2) * 5 Total: 9x old, 17x new X| OTOH 90 days, 24 non-repeats.

                                  3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                    Gary Wheeler wrote:

                                    have to enter the old one four times, and the new one 13 times

                                    Messy :wtf: That's not fair. :confused:

                                    Believe Yourself™

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                                    Gary Wheeler
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                                    Gandalf - The White wrote:

                                    Messy

                                    Agreed. The bits and pieces that need the password are sufficiently awkward to automate that I've never written a script or an application to deal with the problem.

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                      Did that a week ago myself: Domain: 1 + 2 Legacy Intranet: 1 + 1 Time collection: 1 + 2 Irrational Clearquest: 0 + 2 Irrational Train ReqPro (1 + 2) * 5 Total: 9x old, 17x new X| OTOH 90 days, 24 non-repeats.

                                      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                      Gary Wheeler
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                                      Ewww. Clearquest and 'Train ReqPro'? Sucks to be you :-D.

                                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                                        Is that check performed on each application? I suspect they underestimate the power of human stupidity. What they need is a you can't use any password from the last 6 years type policy. :rolleyes:

                                        3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                        Gary Wheeler
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                                        They also limit how often you are allowed to change your password. With my current password 'formula', I'm good until I retire.

                                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                                          I used to use a book or song title, using upper case for the first letter of each word and replacing vowels with numeric digits: A=4, E=3, i=1, o=0 (i don't have a replacement for u). You could use '!' in place of 'i' and try to always use a title with 'i' in it. What ever i happened to be listening to on my MP3 player when the change password prompt showed up usually became my password for the month.

                                          Pete

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                                          Russell Jones
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                                          I'd laugh if you were listning to something with a name like Pink Floyd's "Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict" when the password change prompt turned up!

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