Why is it ?
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Again, what do you disagree with? It seems to me that you are just trying to distance yourself. Can't you understand the the attacks are baseless and empty? We are on the right side. They are a bunch of big government draconian new world feudalists. All they want to do is gang up on one person and pretend they are powerful because they are part of a group. Its extremely mindless, they do not care if we are right or wrong, they only care about making sure everyone feels as inadequate as them.
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I obviously agree with you that a lot of things that "they" talk about (including media) is based on big government. I would even agree with you on the fact that our entire society is actually based on feudalism (nobody actually outright owns the land, land grants/allodial titles aren't given anymore by any state except possibly Texas and Nevada). However, when I can have debates with people such as Ian and Christian, they must have backing in some way. I don't think you realize that you post something, and then make a comment at the end of the post. They make fun of it (which I deem as their flaw), and then you continue to call names. That's what Ian is saying, and I'd agree with him. You don't follow through with a logical conclusion; you just make a post and a comment, that's it. You call people names. It doesn't give you credibility. There have been a number of things I don't agree with, because I have barely cared to look into it, because you just do the same routine over and over again. You cite one source, and that's the end of it. What is it that you don't understand? We are on the same side, and we're not. You're completely biased. I am as well, I must say. However, I think I have a little bit more of an open mind than you. This is why people make fun of you. Wake up. (We've been over this before. But since you've apparently been doing this for years, it's going to take some time for you to get it.) Honestly, I don't know who has less of an open mind. And since I'm now a part of this, maybe I have less of an open mind as well. But, somehow I doubt it.
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Again, what do you disagree with? It seems to me that you are just trying to distance yourself. Can't you understand the the attacks are baseless and empty? We are on the right side. They are a bunch of big government draconian new world feudalists. All they want to do is gang up on one person and pretend they are powerful because they are part of a group. Its extremely mindless, they do not care if we are right or wrong, they only care about making sure everyone feels as inadequate as them.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They are a bunch of big government draconian new world feudalists.
"They"? I am not. I am small government, pro-capitalist, anti-idiot.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
All they want to do is gang up on one person and pretend they are powerful because they are part of a group.
"They"? If you and I were the only persons posting on this forum, I would post in exactly same way. Ganging up, indeed.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
they do not care if we are right or wrong,
"They"? I correct you on errors of fact. Your beliefs are amusing, but irrelevant.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
they only care about making sure everyone feels as inadequate as them
"They"? I don't feel inadequate, I know my limitations and accept them.
Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos
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I obviously agree with you that a lot of things that "they" talk about (including media) is based on big government. I would even agree with you on the fact that our entire society is actually based on feudalism (nobody actually outright owns the land, land grants/allodial titles aren't given anymore by any state except possibly Texas and Nevada). However, when I can have debates with people such as Ian and Christian, they must have backing in some way. I don't think you realize that you post something, and then make a comment at the end of the post. They make fun of it (which I deem as their flaw), and then you continue to call names. That's what Ian is saying, and I'd agree with him. You don't follow through with a logical conclusion; you just make a post and a comment, that's it. You call people names. It doesn't give you credibility. There have been a number of things I don't agree with, because I have barely cared to look into it, because you just do the same routine over and over again. You cite one source, and that's the end of it. What is it that you don't understand? We are on the same side, and we're not. You're completely biased. I am as well, I must say. However, I think I have a little bit more of an open mind than you. This is why people make fun of you. Wake up. (We've been over this before. But since you've apparently been doing this for years, it's going to take some time for you to get it.) Honestly, I don't know who has less of an open mind. And since I'm now a part of this, maybe I have less of an open mind as well. But, somehow I doubt it.
You go ahead and follow through with conclusions and play mind games. I will hit up the forum with information and let them think about it.
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Again, what do you disagree with? It seems to me that you are just trying to distance yourself. Can't you understand the the attacks are baseless and empty? We are on the right side. They are a bunch of big government draconian new world feudalists. All they want to do is gang up on one person and pretend they are powerful because they are part of a group. Its extremely mindless, they do not care if we are right or wrong, they only care about making sure everyone feels as inadequate as them.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It seems to me that you are just trying to distance yourself.
Now that I think about it, how is it that I could be distancing myself? I'm still here, and I have a show once every two weeks. Why would you trying to intentionally bash me?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Its extremely mindless, they do not care if we are right or wrong, they only care about making sure everyone feels as inadequate as them.
Why would you be trying to intentionally bash them? Put another way: if you start acting like an adult and put forth a logical argument instead of two sentence insane sounding "proofs", maybe you'd get a bit more respect from everyone else. You and I know what a conspiracy is, and that they make history itself; however, in a layman's terminology, stop spreading "conspiracy theories". You have to put forth an argument that is hard to break down. Believe me, the reason why I'm half and half is because I can logically deduce what makes sense to me and what does not. The reason why you can't reason your way through on these postings is because you don't know the proof (or at least, you're not showing it, therefore that's why I believe you really don't know the proof). So, if you know it, then post it. Reason and prove your argument. Know the argument. Otherwise, you shouldn't be just posting "conspiracy theories". All you do is call people names. That's your defense. It's slander, and has no backing.
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You go ahead and follow through with conclusions and play mind games. I will hit up the forum with information and let them think about it.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It seems to me that you are just trying to distance yourself.
Now that I think about it, how is it that I could be distancing myself? I'm still here, and I have a show once every two weeks. Why would you trying to intentionally bash me?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Its extremely mindless, they do not care if we are right or wrong, they only care about making sure everyone feels as inadequate as them.
Why would you be trying to intentionally bash them? Put another way: if you start acting like an adult and put forth a logical argument instead of two sentence insane sounding "proofs", maybe you'd get a bit more respect from everyone else. You and I know what a conspiracy is, and that they make history itself; however, in a layman's terminology, stop spreading "conspiracy theories". You have to put forth an argument that is hard to break down. Believe me, the reason why I'm half and half is because I can logically deduce what makes sense to me and what does not. The reason why you can't reason your way through on these postings is because you don't know the proof (or at least, you're not showing it, therefore that's why I believe you really don't know the proof). So, if you know it, then post it. Reason and prove your argument. Know the argument. Otherwise, you shouldn't be just posting "conspiracy theories". All you do is call people names. That's your defense. It's slander, and has no backing.
You still have not told me what you disagree with.
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You still have not told me what you disagree with.
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"Arrested TSA worker asked girl to be his 'sex slave'" "Climate Cultists get their own place of worship in Air Force Academy" Your comments to Ian in "State of the Union" "Pentagon calls for 'Office of Strategic Deception'" That's enough for now. Keep posting baseless articles, and I can add to this list (if you want).
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"Arrested TSA worker asked girl to be his 'sex slave'" "Climate Cultists get their own place of worship in Air Force Academy" Your comments to Ian in "State of the Union" "Pentagon calls for 'Office of Strategic Deception'" That's enough for now. Keep posting baseless articles, and I can add to this list (if you want).
You are going to have to have a much wider perspective on life if you ever want to fully wake up. You are a victim of Groupthink. Its easier for you that way.
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So you're not intelligent enough to "play mind games"? All you can do is mindlessly post "information"?
I don't think you are intelligent, the way you talk, how you go with a wishy-washy populist stance, and your very limited perspective on life really makes me wonder about your mental capacity. This isn't an insult, just my logical analysis.
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You are going to have to have a much wider perspective on life if you ever want to fully wake up. You are a victim of Groupthink. Its easier for you that way.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]
You don't even know what a wide view is, what the hell do you mean "a victim of groupthink"? You bash my show. You bash the people here. You bash me personally. You don't have a "wide view", you have a "closed, violent view". If you were physical enough, and on the other side of the spectrum, you'd be on the crusade in Iraq and Afghanistan yourself. It's people like you that cause the chaos in the world. You're not thinking things out for yourself, you're letting infowars do it for you. This conversation is over. Good luck to you, Darth.
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I don't think you are intelligent, the way you talk, how you go with a wishy-washy populist stance, and your very limited perspective on life really makes me wonder about your mental capacity. This isn't an insult, just my logical analysis.
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Really? So I'm an arrogant fool, basically? Can I see why? Or are you just going to slander me? Because at the moment, that is all it is, an insult. How am I a populist? Because I totally disagree with you, and I've disagreed with many people here, many times. Populist, indeed. Either show me where I'm wrong, or shut up.
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You don't even know what a wide view is, what the hell do you mean "a victim of groupthink"? You bash my show. You bash the people here. You bash me personally. You don't have a "wide view", you have a "closed, violent view". If you were physical enough, and on the other side of the spectrum, you'd be on the crusade in Iraq and Afghanistan yourself. It's people like you that cause the chaos in the world. You're not thinking things out for yourself, you're letting infowars do it for you. This conversation is over. Good luck to you, Darth.
josda1000 wrote:
what the hell do you mean
Its called thinking outside the box of concrete, wires, and fancy imagery you live in. Expand your way of thinking into the greater world, and really try to understand how it all works. Take into account everything you possibly can and find structure and patterns. Its what astronomers, physicists and likes of Einstein do.
josda1000 wrote:
what the hell do you mean "a victim of groupthink"?
Groupthink defined Groupthink is a type of thought exhibited by group members who try to minimize conflict and reach consensus without critically testing, analyzing, and evaluating ideas. Individual creativity, uniqueness, and independent thinking are lost in the pursuit of group cohesiveness, as are the advantages of reasonable balance in choice and thought that might normally be obtained by making decisions as a group.[1] During groupthink, members of the group avoid promoting viewpoints outside the comfort zone of consensus thinking. A variety of motives for this may exist such as a desire to avoid being seen as foolish, or a desire to avoid embarrassing or angering other members of the group. Groupthink may cause groups to make hasty, irrational decisions, where individual doubts are set aside, for fear of upsetting the group’s balance. The term is frequently used pejoratively, with hindsight.
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josda1000 wrote:
what the hell do you mean
Its called thinking outside the box of concrete, wires, and fancy imagery you live in. Expand your way of thinking into the greater world, and really try to understand how it all works. Take into account everything you possibly can and find structure and patterns. Its what astronomers, physicists and likes of Einstein do.
josda1000 wrote:
what the hell do you mean "a victim of groupthink"?
Groupthink defined Groupthink is a type of thought exhibited by group members who try to minimize conflict and reach consensus without critically testing, analyzing, and evaluating ideas. Individual creativity, uniqueness, and independent thinking are lost in the pursuit of group cohesiveness, as are the advantages of reasonable balance in choice and thought that might normally be obtained by making decisions as a group.[1] During groupthink, members of the group avoid promoting viewpoints outside the comfort zone of consensus thinking. A variety of motives for this may exist such as a desire to avoid being seen as foolish, or a desire to avoid embarrassing or angering other members of the group. Groupthink may cause groups to make hasty, irrational decisions, where individual doubts are set aside, for fear of upsetting the group’s balance. The term is frequently used pejoratively, with hindsight.
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LOL!!! You send me to a link of where Groupthink is defined, and then REDEFINE IT in a later post! You, my dear friend, you are just brilliant. So! I don't think outside of the box! And I have a show where I've gotten letters that state that I'm insane because I'm too outside of the box! Dude, get a life. Think for yourself. Stop this nonsense. You're bashing someone who would agree with you AND disagree with you, while you're agreeing to EVERYTHING THAT INFOWARS SAYS!!! Rethink what you've said. Not everything is not what it seems: meaning, take things with a grain of salt; investigate, think for yourself, and see if there really are things going on that are wrong. Stop bashing me, idiot. Because that's all you're doing, is bashing. You are baseless, as usual.
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LOL!!! You send me to a link of where Groupthink is defined, and then REDEFINE IT in a later post! You, my dear friend, you are just brilliant. So! I don't think outside of the box! And I have a show where I've gotten letters that state that I'm insane because I'm too outside of the box! Dude, get a life. Think for yourself. Stop this nonsense. You're bashing someone who would agree with you AND disagree with you, while you're agreeing to EVERYTHING THAT INFOWARS SAYS!!! Rethink what you've said. Not everything is not what it seems: meaning, take things with a grain of salt; investigate, think for yourself, and see if there really are things going on that are wrong. Stop bashing me, idiot. Because that's all you're doing, is bashing. You are baseless, as usual.
I did not redefine it. I copied and pasted directly from Wikipedia. You have become extremely irrational and are making poor judgments.
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Really? So I'm an arrogant fool, basically? Can I see why? Or are you just going to slander me? Because at the moment, that is all it is, an insult. How am I a populist? Because I totally disagree with you, and I've disagreed with many people here, many times. Populist, indeed. Either show me where I'm wrong, or shut up.
He can't. He's now in a transfering phase. I've noticed it is like a lunar cycle or something. Transfers what he is onto other people, mocks them for it and somehow act superior. (calling you a follower when Uncle Alex is his cult leader) "Your mom" Where he goes after some insult he has noticed works on the person. If they ignore the insults he tries a new one. (calling you stupid) Strawman where he changes their argument to one he can attack and acts like that is what they always said. (you want big government...blahblahblah) Totally unknown irony, where he states something is one thing, even though the definition is the opposite and he latches onto his world view and refuses to acknowledge the fact that the tuth is about a 180 degree from what he is saying. (black propaganda) or Just plain batguano crazy. Completely incapable of spouting anything not said by some conspiracy site somewhere. (yea... do I gotta type this in?)
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I did not redefine it. I copied and pasted directly from Wikipedia. You have become extremely irrational and are making poor judgments.
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I'm not saying, "redefine", as in making your own definition. All I meant was that you defined it in the post. Sorry you mistook that. Otherwise, obviously, my position stands. Come on CSS, you can do it. Make another post on how ridiculous I am, and "all of them". Continue, I implore you.
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I did not redefine it. I copied and pasted directly from Wikipedia. You have become extremely irrational and are making poor judgments.
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Feel free to examine how groupthink works with you and the sites you copy and paste articles from. Now pay attention to the fact that if we point out the problems with the articles, you ignore them and simply call us names. Hey, you know that kettle you called black? Yea, it's got a mirror for you Mr. Pot.
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So you mean me, and you think AGW posts are brainless repetetive crap. Or is it just that coming from me they are brainless repetetive crap? Well, not everyone agrees with you, so dont think you speak for all.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
So you mean me, and you think AGW posts are brainless repetetive crap. Or is it just that coming from me they are brainless repetetive crap?
It's interesting to me that you made this all about you, when you were the last thing on the collective mind. But, yes, the endless AGW is repetitive, and while I'm not saying none of it is true, the manner of delivery and it's constant stream, denegrates it into crap, I am afraid.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I feel honoured, I assume that you learned what groupthink is by looking it up after I mentioned it. Leave your money on the fridge. Of course, it doesn't remotely apply in this situation.
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You are going to have to have a much wider perspective on life if you ever want to fully wake up. You are a victim of Groupthink. Its easier for you that way.
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