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  • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

    It is ok to say no. When someone asks to review your code after you have left, "Sorry but I have left for the day, we can review it tomorrow." "That's fine, we can TS in and review it without you" "No." ... You would be surprised how often no actually works. People don't expect it. They don't know how to deal with it. It confuses and scares them that you didn't submit to their absolute authority. Your quitting anyway, right?

    Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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    Super Lloyd
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    5! :-) And anyway what was the point of the phone call? If not a vile and lame plot to have the programmer coming back, and he fell for it! :-)

    A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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      5! :-) And anyway what was the point of the phone call? If not a vile and lame plot to have the programmer coming back, and he fell for it! :-)

      A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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      4277480
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      Super Lloyd wrote:

      and he fell for it

      No he didn't fall for it he was acting in a professional way but his boss is an *****

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        Super Lloyd wrote:

        and he fell for it

        No he didn't fall for it he was acting in a professional way but his boss is an *****

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        Super Lloyd
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        I call that falling. My boss call me home at 6pm to do a code review and I wish him luck!

        A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          So there I was lounging on the couch, waiting for the wife to get home from work, and having been home for about 30 minutes myself - it's about 5:10pm, and the phone rings. It's my manager saying the CEO wants to do a code review - right now. She say that I don't have to come back if I don't want to, and in that case, they'll just terminal service into my machine and go over the code - without me being there. Well, I suspect there's not a single programmer here that would allow a code review to be performed *by non-programmers* on code he wrote without being present, so I tell her something to that effect, and hang up after telling her that I'm coming back, and hell's coming with me. So I have to drive BACK to the office - in rush hour traffic - and it took me almost an hour to get there (12 miles). I got out of the car, and shouted at the building - "HONEY! I'M HOME!" All the network guys got scared and left, and it seems that there was a woman there interviewing for a job. At that point my manager tried to "manage" me (I think that pissed me off more than having to come back to work in the first place). The end result is that instead of doing a code review, the CEO wanted to know where I was "stuck", so I spun the flow chart around on the conference table, and pointed at the three big red f*ckin circles on the paper and said, "It looks pretty damn obvious to me." This wasn't even going to be a code review. This was his way of giving me the guidance I've been waiting for since frakking NOVEMBER. To make it worse, he didn't even give me the guidance I was asking for. He went off on another tangent. He couldn't do this during the frakking work day?! If I wasn't already looking for another job, I'd start looking for another job. I finally got home at 8:05pm...

          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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          I swear I would've burnt that fucking place down. Yarrr.. it pisses me off just reading about it!

          -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

            It is ok to say no. When someone asks to review your code after you have left, "Sorry but I have left for the day, we can review it tomorrow." "That's fine, we can TS in and review it without you" "No." ... You would be surprised how often no actually works. People don't expect it. They don't know how to deal with it. It confuses and scares them that you didn't submit to their absolute authority. Your quitting anyway, right?

            Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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            Agreed, 100% agreed

            Just racking up the postings

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              So there I was lounging on the couch, waiting for the wife to get home from work, and having been home for about 30 minutes myself - it's about 5:10pm, and the phone rings. It's my manager saying the CEO wants to do a code review - right now. She say that I don't have to come back if I don't want to, and in that case, they'll just terminal service into my machine and go over the code - without me being there. Well, I suspect there's not a single programmer here that would allow a code review to be performed *by non-programmers* on code he wrote without being present, so I tell her something to that effect, and hang up after telling her that I'm coming back, and hell's coming with me. So I have to drive BACK to the office - in rush hour traffic - and it took me almost an hour to get there (12 miles). I got out of the car, and shouted at the building - "HONEY! I'M HOME!" All the network guys got scared and left, and it seems that there was a woman there interviewing for a job. At that point my manager tried to "manage" me (I think that pissed me off more than having to come back to work in the first place). The end result is that instead of doing a code review, the CEO wanted to know where I was "stuck", so I spun the flow chart around on the conference table, and pointed at the three big red f*ckin circles on the paper and said, "It looks pretty damn obvious to me." This wasn't even going to be a code review. This was his way of giving me the guidance I've been waiting for since frakking NOVEMBER. To make it worse, he didn't even give me the guidance I was asking for. He went off on another tangent. He couldn't do this during the frakking work day?! If I wasn't already looking for another job, I'd start looking for another job. I finally got home at 8:05pm...

              .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
              -----
              "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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              What surprises me is that you went back to the office for a 'code review' when you're already looking for another job.

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                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                I got out of the car, and shouted at the building - "HONEY! I'M HOME!" All the network guys got scared and left, and it seems that there was a woman there interviewing for a job. At that point my manager tried to "manage" me (I think that pissed me off more than having to come back to work in the first place).

                They probably think you are with al'quada now.

                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                Nagy Vilmos
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                CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                They probably think you are with al'quada now

                And we know you're in bed sucking your thumb liek the big girl's blouse you are. Sweet dreams pumpkin.


                Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  So there I was lounging on the couch, waiting for the wife to get home from work, and having been home for about 30 minutes myself - it's about 5:10pm, and the phone rings. It's my manager saying the CEO wants to do a code review - right now. She say that I don't have to come back if I don't want to, and in that case, they'll just terminal service into my machine and go over the code - without me being there. Well, I suspect there's not a single programmer here that would allow a code review to be performed *by non-programmers* on code he wrote without being present, so I tell her something to that effect, and hang up after telling her that I'm coming back, and hell's coming with me. So I have to drive BACK to the office - in rush hour traffic - and it took me almost an hour to get there (12 miles). I got out of the car, and shouted at the building - "HONEY! I'M HOME!" All the network guys got scared and left, and it seems that there was a woman there interviewing for a job. At that point my manager tried to "manage" me (I think that pissed me off more than having to come back to work in the first place). The end result is that instead of doing a code review, the CEO wanted to know where I was "stuck", so I spun the flow chart around on the conference table, and pointed at the three big red f*ckin circles on the paper and said, "It looks pretty damn obvious to me." This wasn't even going to be a code review. This was his way of giving me the guidance I've been waiting for since frakking NOVEMBER. To make it worse, he didn't even give me the guidance I was asking for. He went off on another tangent. He couldn't do this during the frakking work day?! If I wasn't already looking for another job, I'd start looking for another job. I finally got home at 8:05pm...

                  .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                  -----
                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                  -----
                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                  NormDroid
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                  It's only far to other people that you name and shame this company, I wouldn't wish anybody a job there unless they were real zero. At a guess is it called RetardSoft.

                  All right, you guys, I got eight crates of Ipecac from Mort. All on my tab. Now, whoever goes the longest without puking gets the last piece of pie in the fridge.

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                  • D DRAYKKO

                    Dude! I SO feel your pain! I really do...but do I your permission to use the "...I'm coming back and hell's coming with me..." line??? That is PRICELESS!!!! :laugh: :laugh: Also, with regard to the CEO not seeing the obvious, take three DEEP breaths and remember the mantra: "logic don't figure with administrators" LOL! I'm glad you made it back home without expelling any road rage. Enjoy dinner, enjoy the missus, enjoy the night...

                    ======================= Every experience in life is a lesson to be learned A. Stevens B.S., Computer Science

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                    Electron Shepherd
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                    DRAYKKO wrote:

                    the "...I'm coming back and hell's coming with me..." line??? That is PRICELESS!!!!

                    Yes, very end of the world...

                    Server and Network Monitoring

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                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                      It is ok to say no. When someone asks to review your code after you have left, "Sorry but I have left for the day, we can review it tomorrow." "That's fine, we can TS in and review it without you" "No." ... You would be surprised how often no actually works. People don't expect it. They don't know how to deal with it. It confuses and scares them that you didn't submit to their absolute authority. Your quitting anyway, right?

                      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                      Electron Shepherd
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                      Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                      "That's fine, we can TS in and review it without you" "No."

                      It's not your code. It's the company's code (assuming a normal "work for hire" style employment contract). You can't dictate what they can or can't do with it.

                      Server and Network Monitoring

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                      • C CaptainSeeSharp

                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                        I got out of the car, and shouted at the building - "HONEY! I'M HOME!" All the network guys got scared and left, and it seems that there was a woman there interviewing for a job. At that point my manager tried to "manage" me (I think that pissed me off more than having to come back to work in the first place).

                        They probably think you are with al'quada now.

                        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                        Lost User
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                        Does John flip burgers for a living? Methinks not.

                        Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                          Super Lloyd wrote:

                          and he fell for it

                          No he didn't fall for it he was acting in a professional way but his boss is an *****

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                          Caslen
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                          4277480 wrote:

                          he was acting in a professional way

                          No he wasn't, he was acting like a jerk for going back of course the boss was acting like a jerk too - sounds like they make a perfect team

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                          • D DRAYKKO

                            Dude! I SO feel your pain! I really do...but do I your permission to use the "...I'm coming back and hell's coming with me..." line??? That is PRICELESS!!!! :laugh: :laugh: Also, with regard to the CEO not seeing the obvious, take three DEEP breaths and remember the mantra: "logic don't figure with administrators" LOL! I'm glad you made it back home without expelling any road rage. Enjoy dinner, enjoy the missus, enjoy the night...

                            ======================= Every experience in life is a lesson to be learned A. Stevens B.S., Computer Science

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                            realJSOP
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                            I borrowed that line from the movie Tombstone. :)

                            .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                            -----
                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                            -----
                            "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                              I got out of the car, and shouted at the building - "HONEY! I'M HOME!" All the network guys got scared and left, and it seems that there was a woman there interviewing for a job. At that point my manager tried to "manage" me (I think that pissed me off more than having to come back to work in the first place).

                              They probably think you are with al'quada now.

                              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                              realJSOP
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                              No - I'm pretty sure I would have scared even that bunch of pussies...

                              .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                              -----
                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                              -----
                              "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                So there I was lounging on the couch, waiting for the wife to get home from work, and having been home for about 30 minutes myself - it's about 5:10pm, and the phone rings. It's my manager saying the CEO wants to do a code review - right now. She say that I don't have to come back if I don't want to, and in that case, they'll just terminal service into my machine and go over the code - without me being there. Well, I suspect there's not a single programmer here that would allow a code review to be performed *by non-programmers* on code he wrote without being present, so I tell her something to that effect, and hang up after telling her that I'm coming back, and hell's coming with me. So I have to drive BACK to the office - in rush hour traffic - and it took me almost an hour to get there (12 miles). I got out of the car, and shouted at the building - "HONEY! I'M HOME!" All the network guys got scared and left, and it seems that there was a woman there interviewing for a job. At that point my manager tried to "manage" me (I think that pissed me off more than having to come back to work in the first place). The end result is that instead of doing a code review, the CEO wanted to know where I was "stuck", so I spun the flow chart around on the conference table, and pointed at the three big red f*ckin circles on the paper and said, "It looks pretty damn obvious to me." This wasn't even going to be a code review. This was his way of giving me the guidance I've been waiting for since frakking NOVEMBER. To make it worse, he didn't even give me the guidance I was asking for. He went off on another tangent. He couldn't do this during the frakking work day?! If I wasn't already looking for another job, I'd start looking for another job. I finally got home at 8:05pm...

                                .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                -----
                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                -----
                                "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                Why is it in American employees can be treated thisway? In Europe you would never get a call like this unless it was a real emergency. You would always do this in the morning.

                                Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                  What surprises me is that you went back to the office for a 'code review' when you're already looking for another job.

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                                  Because a few more months not working while doing the job search thing would put a big dent in his bank account.

                                  3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                                  • E Electron Shepherd

                                    Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                                    "That's fine, we can TS in and review it without you" "No."

                                    It's not your code. It's the company's code (assuming a normal "work for hire" style employment contract). You can't dictate what they can or can't do with it.

                                    Server and Network Monitoring

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                                    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                    You don't have to believe me.

                                    Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                      I borrowed that line from the movie Tombstone. :)

                                      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                      -----
                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                      -----
                                      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                      Electron Shepherd
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                                      I think they borrowed it from the Bible. It sounds very much like Revelations 6. From memory: "I saw a rider on a pale horse, and the name of he that sat on him was Death, and all of Hell followed with him" A quote made more famous by Clint Eastwood's Pale Rider. :)

                                      Server and Network Monitoring

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                                      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                        You don't have to believe me.

                                        Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                                        Electron Shepherd
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                                        I'ts nothing to do with belief. It's about who owns the intellectual property. In most cases, it's the employer. The idea that you can say "no" when they want to look at something they own is just ridiculous.

                                        Server and Network Monitoring

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