Raise Your Hand If You're a Terrorist
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"The Raw Story reports that terrorists who want to overthrow the United States government must now register with South Carolina's Secretary of State and declare their intentions — or face a $25,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison. The 'Subversive Activities Registration Act' passed last year in South Carolina and now officially on the books states that 'every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control, every foreign agent and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State.'" Since this only applies to terrorists that are part of a subversive organization, independent terrorists with no affiliation are free to conduct subversive activities without first registering. I wonder if this means that after conducting a terrorist act, they have to leave their credentials at the scene so that the authorities can be assured that the group has met all of the legal requirements necessary to operate in the state of South Carolina... Absurdity at it's finest...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
"The Raw Story reports that terrorists who want to overthrow the United States government must now register with South Carolina's Secretary of State and declare their intentions — or face a $25,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison. The 'Subversive Activities Registration Act' passed last year in South Carolina and now officially on the books states that 'every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control, every foreign agent and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State.'" Since this only applies to terrorists that are part of a subversive organization, independent terrorists with no affiliation are free to conduct subversive activities without first registering. I wonder if this means that after conducting a terrorist act, they have to leave their credentials at the scene so that the authorities can be assured that the group has met all of the legal requirements necessary to operate in the state of South Carolina... Absurdity at it's finest...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
"The Raw Story reports that terrorists who want to overthrow the United States government must now register with South Carolina's Secretary of State and declare their intentions — or face a $25,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison. The 'Subversive Activities Registration Act' passed last year in South Carolina and now officially on the books states that 'every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control, every foreign agent and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State.'" Since this only applies to terrorists that are part of a subversive organization, independent terrorists with no affiliation are free to conduct subversive activities without first registering. I wonder if this means that after conducting a terrorist act, they have to leave their credentials at the scene so that the authorities can be assured that the group has met all of the legal requirements necessary to operate in the state of South Carolina... Absurdity at it's finest...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001Being somewhat cynical, as I am oft want to be, I see this more as a money gathering operation. That is to say that should anyone commit an act of terrorism, their assets can be claimed by the appropriate body and it not be used to pay for his family or further terrorism outrages. Be careful though, I suspect that 'Terrorism' has not been defined, and therefore if you were to drive too quickly, the charge may be laid that you were 'terrorising' other road users, and your home and other assets stripped and used to pay for the state. Just the accountant in me coming out again.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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"The Raw Story reports that terrorists who want to overthrow the United States government must now register with South Carolina's Secretary of State and declare their intentions — or face a $25,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison. The 'Subversive Activities Registration Act' passed last year in South Carolina and now officially on the books states that 'every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control, every foreign agent and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State.'" Since this only applies to terrorists that are part of a subversive organization, independent terrorists with no affiliation are free to conduct subversive activities without first registering. I wonder if this means that after conducting a terrorist act, they have to leave their credentials at the scene so that the authorities can be assured that the group has met all of the legal requirements necessary to operate in the state of South Carolina... Absurdity at it's finest...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001I don't need to register: I have the ISO-AK-47 Terrorist Quality Certification. :-D
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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"The Raw Story reports that terrorists who want to overthrow the United States government must now register with South Carolina's Secretary of State and declare their intentions — or face a $25,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison. The 'Subversive Activities Registration Act' passed last year in South Carolina and now officially on the books states that 'every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control, every foreign agent and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State.'" Since this only applies to terrorists that are part of a subversive organization, independent terrorists with no affiliation are free to conduct subversive activities without first registering. I wonder if this means that after conducting a terrorist act, they have to leave their credentials at the scene so that the authorities can be assured that the group has met all of the legal requirements necessary to operate in the state of South Carolina... Absurdity at it's finest...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001I don't know whether to laugh or to cry in the face of stupid extraordinary laws like this. Is this real or some kind of parody? I'm seriously puzzled... :confused: I guess that's Poe's law, isn't it?
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Being somewhat cynical, as I am oft want to be, I see this more as a money gathering operation. That is to say that should anyone commit an act of terrorism, their assets can be claimed by the appropriate body and it not be used to pay for his family or further terrorism outrages. Be careful though, I suspect that 'Terrorism' has not been defined, and therefore if you were to drive too quickly, the charge may be laid that you were 'terrorising' other road users, and your home and other assets stripped and used to pay for the state. Just the accountant in me coming out again.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Dalek Dave wrote:
Be careful though, I suspect that 'Terrorism' has not been defined, and therefore if you were to drive too quickly, the charge may be laid that you were 'terrorising' other road users, and your home and other assets stripped and used to pay for the state.
Or if you are a bit too sarcastic on the forums... :rolleyes:
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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"The Raw Story reports that terrorists who want to overthrow the United States government must now register with South Carolina's Secretary of State and declare their intentions — or face a $25,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison. The 'Subversive Activities Registration Act' passed last year in South Carolina and now officially on the books states that 'every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control, every foreign agent and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State.'" Since this only applies to terrorists that are part of a subversive organization, independent terrorists with no affiliation are free to conduct subversive activities without first registering. I wonder if this means that after conducting a terrorist act, they have to leave their credentials at the scene so that the authorities can be assured that the group has met all of the legal requirements necessary to operate in the state of South Carolina... Absurdity at it's finest...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001Let's see. South Carolina. That's the state with the AWOL governor whose 'soul mate' was some bimbo from Argentina. That's the state with the esteemed representative to the House who sees screaming 'You lie!' at the State of the Union address as a way to political success. (And not surprisingly, this being South Carolina, it worked.) Nuff said.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
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Being somewhat cynical, as I am oft want to be, I see this more as a money gathering operation. That is to say that should anyone commit an act of terrorism, their assets can be claimed by the appropriate body and it not be used to pay for his family or further terrorism outrages. Be careful though, I suspect that 'Terrorism' has not been defined, and therefore if you were to drive too quickly, the charge may be laid that you were 'terrorising' other road users, and your home and other assets stripped and used to pay for the state. Just the accountant in me coming out again.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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"The Raw Story reports that terrorists who want to overthrow the United States government must now register with South Carolina's Secretary of State and declare their intentions — or face a $25,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison. The 'Subversive Activities Registration Act' passed last year in South Carolina and now officially on the books states that 'every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control, every foreign agent and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State.'" Since this only applies to terrorists that are part of a subversive organization, independent terrorists with no affiliation are free to conduct subversive activities without first registering. I wonder if this means that after conducting a terrorist act, they have to leave their credentials at the scene so that the authorities can be assured that the group has met all of the legal requirements necessary to operate in the state of South Carolina... Absurdity at it's finest...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001Being a US citizen, you wouldn't have to do this, but when non-US people fly into the US on the visa waiver program, you have to sign a form, part of which says (paraphrasing) "I am not a terrorist, and I don't plan to engage in terrorism while in the US" Do they really expect anyone to say anything else? :doh:
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"The Raw Story reports that terrorists who want to overthrow the United States government must now register with South Carolina's Secretary of State and declare their intentions — or face a $25,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison. The 'Subversive Activities Registration Act' passed last year in South Carolina and now officially on the books states that 'every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control, every foreign agent and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State.'" Since this only applies to terrorists that are part of a subversive organization, independent terrorists with no affiliation are free to conduct subversive activities without first registering. I wonder if this means that after conducting a terrorist act, they have to leave their credentials at the scene so that the authorities can be assured that the group has met all of the legal requirements necessary to operate in the state of South Carolina... Absurdity at it's finest...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
Being somewhat cynical, as I am oft want to be, I see this more as a money gathering operation. That is to say that should anyone commit an act of terrorism, their assets can be claimed by the appropriate body and it not be used to pay for his family or further terrorism outrages. Be careful though, I suspect that 'Terrorism' has not been defined, and therefore if you were to drive too quickly, the charge may be laid that you were 'terrorising' other road users, and your home and other assets stripped and used to pay for the state. Just the accountant in me coming out again.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Good come back Dave, you've gone from 1 rating to 4+! I'm holding back my vote as an emergency measure.
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Being a US citizen, you wouldn't have to do this, but when non-US people fly into the US on the visa waiver program, you have to sign a form, part of which says (paraphrasing) "I am not a terrorist, and I don't plan to engage in terrorism while in the US" Do they really expect anyone to say anything else? :doh:
Didn't they used to do that with Communists? I wonder if they asked Gorbechev "Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist party?" when he visited in the late eighties...
If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends? Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.
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Being somewhat cynical, as I am oft want to be, I see this more as a money gathering operation. That is to say that should anyone commit an act of terrorism, their assets can be claimed by the appropriate body and it not be used to pay for his family or further terrorism outrages. Be careful though, I suspect that 'Terrorism' has not been defined, and therefore if you were to drive too quickly, the charge may be laid that you were 'terrorising' other road users, and your home and other assets stripped and used to pay for the state. Just the accountant in me coming out again.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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Being somewhat cynical, as I am oft want to be, I see this more as a money gathering operation. That is to say that should anyone commit an act of terrorism, their assets can be claimed by the appropriate body and it not be used to pay for his family or further terrorism outrages. Be careful though, I suspect that 'Terrorism' has not been defined, and therefore if you were to drive too quickly, the charge may be laid that you were 'terrorising' other road users, and your home and other assets stripped and used to pay for the state. Just the accountant in me coming out again.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Dalek Dave wrote:
, I see this more as a money gathering operation.
Al Capone was convicted for income-tax evasion; so now, would-be terrorists could be convicted of not registering if there are not enough proofs that they did actually commit a terror act.
Watched code never compiles.
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Being a US citizen, you wouldn't have to do this, but when non-US people fly into the US on the visa waiver program, you have to sign a form, part of which says (paraphrasing) "I am not a terrorist, and I don't plan to engage in terrorism while in the US" Do they really expect anyone to say anything else? :doh:
Well, with the Visa Waiver it makes sense. It's called "Waiver" because you waive your rights to appeal the decision of the immigration officer. Of course, that means noone will sign "yes" unless he needs some quirky kind of adventure. Signing "No, I'm not a terrorist", then blowing up an office building in Oklahoma wearing an "Anthrax" t-shirt while sneezing white powder into the wrong direction gives the US goverment the right to imemdiately expel you and never let you in again. So obviously, there is - or at least was - more of "due process" in expelling someone.
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Being somewhat cynical, as I am oft want to be, I see this more as a money gathering operation. That is to say that should anyone commit an act of terrorism, their assets can be claimed by the appropriate body and it not be used to pay for his family or further terrorism outrages. Be careful though, I suspect that 'Terrorism' has not been defined, and therefore if you were to drive too quickly, the charge may be laid that you were 'terrorising' other road users, and your home and other assets stripped and used to pay for the state. Just the accountant in me coming out again.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
I see it more as an attempt to reduce / remove "due process" when "something bad" happens. Together with a flexible definition of terrorism, that law has a great scare factor. Not yet a "flushing civil rights down the toilet", but at least moving them closer to the dump. I understand the motivation behind "anything is ok when it protects us". The same type of people is gnawing away liberty over here in the name of control-based safety. But civil rights are pointless when they don't apply to everyone.
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Didn't they used to do that with Communists? I wonder if they asked Gorbechev "Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist party?" when he visited in the late eighties...
If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends? Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.
OriginalGriff wrote:
Didn't they used to do that with Communists?
Because they think it is the same... :rolleyes:
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
[My articles] -
"The Raw Story reports that terrorists who want to overthrow the United States government must now register with South Carolina's Secretary of State and declare their intentions — or face a $25,000 fine and up to 10 years in prison. The 'Subversive Activities Registration Act' passed last year in South Carolina and now officially on the books states that 'every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control, every foreign agent and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State.'" Since this only applies to terrorists that are part of a subversive organization, independent terrorists with no affiliation are free to conduct subversive activities without first registering. I wonder if this means that after conducting a terrorist act, they have to leave their credentials at the scene so that the authorities can be assured that the group has met all of the legal requirements necessary to operate in the state of South Carolina... Absurdity at it's finest...
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
...and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States...
Freedom of Speech 1776 - 2010. RIP.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
, I see this more as a money gathering operation.
Al Capone was convicted for income-tax evasion; so now, would-be terrorists could be convicted of not registering if there are not enough proofs that they did actually commit a terror act.
Watched code never compiles.
Well, to hold that they should have registered, you would have to prove that they were terrorists, by way of proving that they had comitted a terror act. Everyone has to register for, and pay, tax, not just gansters.
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Well, with the Visa Waiver it makes sense. It's called "Waiver" because you waive your rights to appeal the decision of the immigration officer. Of course, that means noone will sign "yes" unless he needs some quirky kind of adventure. Signing "No, I'm not a terrorist", then blowing up an office building in Oklahoma wearing an "Anthrax" t-shirt while sneezing white powder into the wrong direction gives the US goverment the right to imemdiately expel you and never let you in again. So obviously, there is - or at least was - more of "due process" in expelling someone.
Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
| FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server.So, basically, they expel your for lying... :)
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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