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  • R Ray Cassick

    I agree there... I bet I could be happy with say 5-6 million. I'm not greedy. Heck, I only need around 250k to get completely out of debt (I think that is a high guess).


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    Ray Cassick wrote:

    I agree there

    Oh sure... everyone jump on the Wes gravy train.... :laugh:

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      http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/02/11/ted.big.ideas/index.html?hpt=C2[^] $60K a year can make you happy Psychologist and Nobel Laureate Daniel Kahneman says millions of dollars won't buy you happiness, but a job that pays $60,000 a year might help. Happiness levels increase up to the $60K mark, but "above that it's a flat line," he said. "Money does not buy you experiential happiness but lack of money certainly buys you misery," he said. But the real trick, Kahneman said, is to spend time with people you like. And Bill Gates is so miserable with all his billions. ;P


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      Mark Nischalke wrote:

      $60K a year can make you happy

      I wonder what century that survey was done in? Try living in NYC on $60K/yr. The homeless people probably make $60K/yr!!! Marc

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        Ray Cassick wrote:

        I agree there

        Oh sure... everyone jump on the Wes gravy train.... :laugh:

        Why is common sense not common? Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level where they are an expert. Sometimes it takes a lot of work to be lazy Individuality is fine, as long as we do it together - F. Burns Help humanity, join the CodeProject grid computing team here

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        You can't keep this to yourself, all aboard the gravy train I say!

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          You can't keep this to yourself, all aboard the gravy train I say!

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          Dang it!

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            http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/02/11/ted.big.ideas/index.html?hpt=C2[^] $60K a year can make you happy Psychologist and Nobel Laureate Daniel Kahneman says millions of dollars won't buy you happiness, but a job that pays $60,000 a year might help. Happiness levels increase up to the $60K mark, but "above that it's a flat line," he said. "Money does not buy you experiential happiness but lack of money certainly buys you misery," he said. But the real trick, Kahneman said, is to spend time with people you like. And Bill Gates is so miserable with all his billions. ;P


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            I think this data is taking into account that people are working to earn the $60k a year vs $100k a year not winning the lotto and sitting on the couch watching cartoons! :) I can honestly say that when I was making significantly less money than I make now life was easier and much less stressful. Happier ... maybe I was single back then! ;) i once had a friend/boss drop this wisdom bomb on me years ago (when I was transitioning from a $6.00 an hour job to a $35 an hour job). He said "You rise to the level of your income and once you reach a certain plateau you can never go back." It's true back in the day I was more than satisfied with my $14k a year job. As long as I had a box of pasta a six pack of beer and a new set of guitar strings every month I was happy. That $35 an hour job allowed me to buy a new car and eventually a house. Which in turn meant a car payment and a mortgage. So I could not return to my former job because I had to pay my bills.

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              http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/02/11/ted.big.ideas/index.html?hpt=C2[^] $60K a year can make you happy Psychologist and Nobel Laureate Daniel Kahneman says millions of dollars won't buy you happiness, but a job that pays $60,000 a year might help. Happiness levels increase up to the $60K mark, but "above that it's a flat line," he said. "Money does not buy you experiential happiness but lack of money certainly buys you misery," he said. But the real trick, Kahneman said, is to spend time with people you like. And Bill Gates is so miserable with all his billions. ;P


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              Maybe he was talking about disposable income. So, get all your bills paid in addition to $60K and you're happy. I know I'd be much happier with $80K right about now (if I were in San Fran, though, that target would probably be $100K).

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                http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/02/11/ted.big.ideas/index.html?hpt=C2[^] $60K a year can make you happy Psychologist and Nobel Laureate Daniel Kahneman says millions of dollars won't buy you happiness, but a job that pays $60,000 a year might help. Happiness levels increase up to the $60K mark, but "above that it's a flat line," he said. "Money does not buy you experiential happiness but lack of money certainly buys you misery," he said. But the real trick, Kahneman said, is to spend time with people you like. And Bill Gates is so miserable with all his billions. ;P


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                Dr Walt Fair PE
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                I could be happy with $60K/year ... But since I have to share it with my wife (and Uncle Sam), that's not an option. And believe me, if she isn't happy, she'll make d*mned sure no one else is, especially me!

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  Mark Nischalke wrote:

                  $60K a year can make you happy

                  I wonder what century that survey was done in? Try living in NYC on $60K/yr. The homeless people probably make $60K/yr!!! Marc

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                  Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                  Yet recruiters advertise some of the lowest rates in the nation right there in NYC. As if someone actually wants to live their for the privilege. I live in South Florida and I could maintain a healthy life-style on 60k a year. However ... I like toys.

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                    http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/02/11/ted.big.ideas/index.html?hpt=C2[^] $60K a year can make you happy Psychologist and Nobel Laureate Daniel Kahneman says millions of dollars won't buy you happiness, but a job that pays $60,000 a year might help. Happiness levels increase up to the $60K mark, but "above that it's a flat line," he said. "Money does not buy you experiential happiness but lack of money certainly buys you misery," he said. But the real trick, Kahneman said, is to spend time with people you like. And Bill Gates is so miserable with all his billions. ;P


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                    Douglas Troy
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                    There's a typo in that article, I think that needs to read $60k/yr per person.


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                    • J Joe Simes

                      I think this data is taking into account that people are working to earn the $60k a year vs $100k a year not winning the lotto and sitting on the couch watching cartoons! :) I can honestly say that when I was making significantly less money than I make now life was easier and much less stressful. Happier ... maybe I was single back then! ;) i once had a friend/boss drop this wisdom bomb on me years ago (when I was transitioning from a $6.00 an hour job to a $35 an hour job). He said "You rise to the level of your income and once you reach a certain plateau you can never go back." It's true back in the day I was more than satisfied with my $14k a year job. As long as I had a box of pasta a six pack of beer and a new set of guitar strings every month I was happy. That $35 an hour job allowed me to buy a new car and eventually a house. Which in turn meant a car payment and a mortgage. So I could not return to my former job because I had to pay my bills.

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                      Joe Simes wrote:

                      $6.00 an hour job to a $35 an hour job

                      Nice leap.

                      Joe Simes wrote:

                      So I could not return to my former job because I had to pay my bills.

                      So true. We decide we have the monetary momentum to upgrade things, and that really just means we are locking ourselves into further debt and reducing our options. And now that I have a car, for example, I surely don't want to get rid of it... I'm addicted to my lifestyle.

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        Mark Nischalke wrote:

                        $60K a year can make you happy

                        I wonder what century that survey was done in? Try living in NYC on $60K/yr. The homeless people probably make $60K/yr!!! Marc

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                        I can't find a date. But since it's being reported in a conference happening now I assume it's a new result. Since he reportedly had a few hundred thousand responses I assume the data is nationwide. I decline to speculate on if he neglected to adjust for cost of living or if COL adjustments are too complicated for reporters to understand and were ignored in their blattering.

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                        • D Douglas Troy

                          There's a typo in that article, I think that needs to read $60k/yr per person.


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                          Nish Nishant
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                          Douglas Troy wrote:

                          There's a typo in that article, I think that needs to read $60k/yr per person.

                          Are you saying the OctoMom would need 1/2 a million then?

                          Regards, Nish


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                            Douglas Troy wrote:

                            There's a typo in that article, I think that needs to read $60k/yr per person.

                            Are you saying the OctoMom would need 1/2 a million then?

                            Regards, Nish


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                            Didn't she sell her children the rights to a reality tv show so she could do just that?

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                              Joe Simes wrote:

                              $6.00 an hour job to a $35 an hour job

                              Nice leap.

                              Joe Simes wrote:

                              So I could not return to my former job because I had to pay my bills.

                              So true. We decide we have the monetary momentum to upgrade things, and that really just means we are locking ourselves into further debt and reducing our options. And now that I have a car, for example, I surely don't want to get rid of it... I'm addicted to my lifestyle.

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                              aspdotnetdev wrote:

                              Joe Simes wrote: $6.00 an hour job to a $35 an hour job Nice leap.

                              Pretty random. I graduated college with a BFA in fine art. Working at an art supply shop selling colored pencils for $6.00 an hour. Random customer asks me if I know how to get in touch with an illustrator. I say "Yep, you just did!". Two months later I am working in Boston for Houghton Mifflin as an illustrator for it's "New Media" software department for $35.00 an hour!! It took me almost 8 years to pay off my tax debt because I just spent the money out of hand!! I had never made money before so I didn't pay any quarterlies! :-O Went from illustrator to graphics production to audio production to programming production to junior programmer ... then Al Gore invented the internet!!! X| After everyone got over the novelty of formatting text I started redoing all the work I had done over the past 5 years as SchlockWave and then spent the next 5 years redoing the SchlockWave as Flash-in-the-Pan. :cool: Now I am back to formatting text that comes out of Oracle databases and wishing I was selling colored pencils at the mall again! :omg:

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                              • J Joe Simes

                                I think this data is taking into account that people are working to earn the $60k a year vs $100k a year not winning the lotto and sitting on the couch watching cartoons! :) I can honestly say that when I was making significantly less money than I make now life was easier and much less stressful. Happier ... maybe I was single back then! ;) i once had a friend/boss drop this wisdom bomb on me years ago (when I was transitioning from a $6.00 an hour job to a $35 an hour job). He said "You rise to the level of your income and once you reach a certain plateau you can never go back." It's true back in the day I was more than satisfied with my $14k a year job. As long as I had a box of pasta a six pack of beer and a new set of guitar strings every month I was happy. That $35 an hour job allowed me to buy a new car and eventually a house. Which in turn meant a car payment and a mortgage. So I could not return to my former job because I had to pay my bills.

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                                Joe Simes wrote:

                                He said "You rise to the level of your income and once you reach a certain plateau you can never go back."

                                That is so true. The same could be said of moving to a new, usually bigger, house. We seem to be compelled to fill up all of the nooks and crannies with stuff.

                                "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

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                                  Douglas Troy wrote:

                                  There's a typo in that article, I think that needs to read $60k/yr per person.

                                  Are you saying the OctoMom would need 1/2 a million then?

                                  Regards, Nish


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                                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                  Are you saying the OctoMom would need 1/2 a million then?

                                  Emmm, you maybe onto something there Nish ... I'm not sure 1/2 million/yr would cover the cost of diapers, formula and daycare for 1 year for 8 kids ...


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                                  • I Ian Shlasko

                                    "Anybody who tells you money is the root of all evil, doesn't ****ing have any. They tell you money doesn't buy happiness? Look at the ****ing smile on my face! Ear to ear, baby!" -- Jim Young (Unfortunately played by Ben Affleck), Boiler Room (KSSified, of course)

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                                    Anybody who tells you money is the root of all evil is also getting the quote wrong. Edit to add: The original quote, not the Boiler Room quote.

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                                      http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/02/11/ted.big.ideas/index.html?hpt=C2[^] $60K a year can make you happy Psychologist and Nobel Laureate Daniel Kahneman says millions of dollars won't buy you happiness, but a job that pays $60,000 a year might help. Happiness levels increase up to the $60K mark, but "above that it's a flat line," he said. "Money does not buy you experiential happiness but lack of money certainly buys you misery," he said. But the real trick, Kahneman said, is to spend time with people you like. And Bill Gates is so miserable with all his billions. ;P


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                                      Money doesn't buy happiness, but you can buy a better brand of misery.

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                                      • J Joe Simes

                                        aspdotnetdev wrote:

                                        Joe Simes wrote: $6.00 an hour job to a $35 an hour job Nice leap.

                                        Pretty random. I graduated college with a BFA in fine art. Working at an art supply shop selling colored pencils for $6.00 an hour. Random customer asks me if I know how to get in touch with an illustrator. I say "Yep, you just did!". Two months later I am working in Boston for Houghton Mifflin as an illustrator for it's "New Media" software department for $35.00 an hour!! It took me almost 8 years to pay off my tax debt because I just spent the money out of hand!! I had never made money before so I didn't pay any quarterlies! :-O Went from illustrator to graphics production to audio production to programming production to junior programmer ... then Al Gore invented the internet!!! X| After everyone got over the novelty of formatting text I started redoing all the work I had done over the past 5 years as SchlockWave and then spent the next 5 years redoing the SchlockWave as Flash-in-the-Pan. :cool: Now I am back to formatting text that comes out of Oracle databases and wishing I was selling colored pencils at the mall again! :omg:

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                                        Joe Simes wrote:

                                        It took me almost 8 years to pay off my tax debt because I just spent the money out of hand!! I had never made money before so I didn't pay any quarterlies!

                                        Oh I know, I'm still not done with my 8 years. :((

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                                          http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/02/11/ted.big.ideas/index.html?hpt=C2[^] $60K a year can make you happy Psychologist and Nobel Laureate Daniel Kahneman says millions of dollars won't buy you happiness, but a job that pays $60,000 a year might help. Happiness levels increase up to the $60K mark, but "above that it's a flat line," he said. "Money does not buy you experiential happiness but lack of money certainly buys you misery," he said. But the real trick, Kahneman said, is to spend time with people you like. And Bill Gates is so miserable with all his billions. ;P


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                                          ..if you spend it on great moments rather than great things. Clickety[^]

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