Call me stupid but I'm desperate
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I've been told to whip up some documentation. Fine, I'll just type something quickly on MS Word. Oh no! Not so fast! I forgot, MS Word just doesn't believe in nicely laid out documents. Please, someone explain to me, why on earth MS Word doesn't come with a sensible set of heading styles as default? All I want is this: 1. My first heading 1.1 My first sub heading 1.1.1 My first sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.1.2 My second sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.2 My Second sub heading 1.2.1 My first sub sub heading for my second sub heading 1.2.2 My second sub sub heading for my second sub heading I think it's not just me in the entire world that wants this. Then, why is it that I have to go build this myself!? And try as I might I only get this: 1. My first heading 1.1 My first sub heading 1.1.1 My first sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.1.2 My second sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.2 My Second sub heading 1.1.3 My first sub sub heading for my second sub heading 1.1.4 My second sub sub heading for my second sub heading Before you suggest I do some reading, I better tell you I already have looked up MS help and haven't found much help... probably because it assumes the only language you understand is the one that matches the language of your operating system... but that's another story... I have been poking around Google too, but still not much help. In fact, I think I've done as people suggested, but still getting the wrong output. So I nearly gave up on that and went back to my good old friend, LaTeX. Except I can't make it understand Japanese. I tried to install the CJK package, but it fails at the last minute, probably when it actually tries to make use of the packages using the config utility. Honestly, I didn't mean to spend a whole day on this, but I now have spent most of the day trying to get close enough to spending a whole day on this document. So I'm getting a bit desperate now. If anyone can fish me out of this hole, that's greatly appreciated. Having said that, since I really need to get a move on, I might even go as far as numbering and indenting my paragraphs manually... X|
If you are stupid then so am I, this has been a real pain for me as well. What I usually do is set heading 1 style and then apply outline numbered list to it. For the next level, select heading 2 style, and the same outline numbered list, and then increase indent to demote the level. Do the same with lower levels, increasing the indent one more level each time. However, the numbering goes nuts sometimes, when you go back from a lower level to a higher level heading. I think you can even save the numbered header as a new style, but I haven't figured out how to do that. If anyone knows an easier method, I would love to know. <edit> OK, Googling has turned up this page, but I have never seen the numbered heading style mentioned there. Does it have to be installed separately as an option? http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word/HA102820721033.aspx?pid=CH100970241033[^] </edit>
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If you are stupid then so am I, this has been a real pain for me as well. What I usually do is set heading 1 style and then apply outline numbered list to it. For the next level, select heading 2 style, and the same outline numbered list, and then increase indent to demote the level. Do the same with lower levels, increasing the indent one more level each time. However, the numbering goes nuts sometimes, when you go back from a lower level to a higher level heading. I think you can even save the numbered header as a new style, but I haven't figured out how to do that. If anyone knows an easier method, I would love to know. <edit> OK, Googling has turned up this page, but I have never seen the numbered heading style mentioned there. Does it have to be installed separately as an option? http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word/HA102820721033.aspx?pid=CH100970241033[^] </edit>
I probably should have mentioned I use MS Word 2003, but then most of the comments I've had so far are relevant anyway, so not too much harm done...? :rolleyes: Anyway, it looks like the easier way is to format the text to look the way I want it to, then tell MS Word that that's what my headings are going to look like, rather than the other way around. Thanks for the input! :thumbsup:
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I've been told to whip up some documentation. Fine, I'll just type something quickly on MS Word. Oh no! Not so fast! I forgot, MS Word just doesn't believe in nicely laid out documents. Please, someone explain to me, why on earth MS Word doesn't come with a sensible set of heading styles as default? All I want is this: 1. My first heading 1.1 My first sub heading 1.1.1 My first sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.1.2 My second sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.2 My Second sub heading 1.2.1 My first sub sub heading for my second sub heading 1.2.2 My second sub sub heading for my second sub heading I think it's not just me in the entire world that wants this. Then, why is it that I have to go build this myself!? And try as I might I only get this: 1. My first heading 1.1 My first sub heading 1.1.1 My first sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.1.2 My second sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.2 My Second sub heading 1.1.3 My first sub sub heading for my second sub heading 1.1.4 My second sub sub heading for my second sub heading Before you suggest I do some reading, I better tell you I already have looked up MS help and haven't found much help... probably because it assumes the only language you understand is the one that matches the language of your operating system... but that's another story... I have been poking around Google too, but still not much help. In fact, I think I've done as people suggested, but still getting the wrong output. So I nearly gave up on that and went back to my good old friend, LaTeX. Except I can't make it understand Japanese. I tried to install the CJK package, but it fails at the last minute, probably when it actually tries to make use of the packages using the config utility. Honestly, I didn't mean to spend a whole day on this, but I now have spent most of the day trying to get close enough to spending a whole day on this document. So I'm getting a bit desperate now. If anyone can fish me out of this hole, that's greatly appreciated. Having said that, since I really need to get a move on, I might even go as far as numbering and indenting my paragraphs manually... X|
I find it helps a lot to only add numbering after your type all your body text.
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If you are stupid then so am I, this has been a real pain for me as well. What I usually do is set heading 1 style and then apply outline numbered list to it. For the next level, select heading 2 style, and the same outline numbered list, and then increase indent to demote the level. Do the same with lower levels, increasing the indent one more level each time. However, the numbering goes nuts sometimes, when you go back from a lower level to a higher level heading. I think you can even save the numbered header as a new style, but I haven't figured out how to do that. If anyone knows an easier method, I would love to know. <edit> OK, Googling has turned up this page, but I have never seen the numbered heading style mentioned there. Does it have to be installed separately as an option? http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word/HA102820721033.aspx?pid=CH100970241033[^] </edit>
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Looks like all Word users are stupid. Including me.
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Abu Mami wrote:
I use Outlook Express for most of my documentation. It has enough formatting features to suit my needs and isn't hostile like Word is.
Alas, we're not allowed evil software like Outlook Express... ... ... :(
You can try using Outlook and then copy-paste to Word. That should preserve the formatting and you can resume the tasks from thereon.
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I've been told to whip up some documentation. Fine, I'll just type something quickly on MS Word. Oh no! Not so fast! I forgot, MS Word just doesn't believe in nicely laid out documents. Please, someone explain to me, why on earth MS Word doesn't come with a sensible set of heading styles as default? All I want is this: 1. My first heading 1.1 My first sub heading 1.1.1 My first sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.1.2 My second sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.2 My Second sub heading 1.2.1 My first sub sub heading for my second sub heading 1.2.2 My second sub sub heading for my second sub heading I think it's not just me in the entire world that wants this. Then, why is it that I have to go build this myself!? And try as I might I only get this: 1. My first heading 1.1 My first sub heading 1.1.1 My first sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.1.2 My second sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.2 My Second sub heading 1.1.3 My first sub sub heading for my second sub heading 1.1.4 My second sub sub heading for my second sub heading Before you suggest I do some reading, I better tell you I already have looked up MS help and haven't found much help... probably because it assumes the only language you understand is the one that matches the language of your operating system... but that's another story... I have been poking around Google too, but still not much help. In fact, I think I've done as people suggested, but still getting the wrong output. So I nearly gave up on that and went back to my good old friend, LaTeX. Except I can't make it understand Japanese. I tried to install the CJK package, but it fails at the last minute, probably when it actually tries to make use of the packages using the config utility. Honestly, I didn't mean to spend a whole day on this, but I now have spent most of the day trying to get close enough to spending a whole day on this document. So I'm getting a bit desperate now. If anyone can fish me out of this hole, that's greatly appreciated. Having said that, since I really need to get a move on, I might even go as far as numbering and indenting my paragraphs manually... X|
Nothing in Word actually works properly; the designers were probably using drugs heavily at the time when they were developing it. Maybe being assigned to the Word project is a form of punishment in the Microsoft environment. Any attempt to use the indenting functions is guaranteed to waste a full day or six. The only way I've found to make a Word document that is usable is to first create it in Notepad, then copy and paste into a blank Word document.
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I've been told to whip up some documentation. Fine, I'll just type something quickly on MS Word. Oh no! Not so fast! I forgot, MS Word just doesn't believe in nicely laid out documents. Please, someone explain to me, why on earth MS Word doesn't come with a sensible set of heading styles as default? All I want is this: 1. My first heading 1.1 My first sub heading 1.1.1 My first sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.1.2 My second sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.2 My Second sub heading 1.2.1 My first sub sub heading for my second sub heading 1.2.2 My second sub sub heading for my second sub heading I think it's not just me in the entire world that wants this. Then, why is it that I have to go build this myself!? And try as I might I only get this: 1. My first heading 1.1 My first sub heading 1.1.1 My first sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.1.2 My second sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.2 My Second sub heading 1.1.3 My first sub sub heading for my second sub heading 1.1.4 My second sub sub heading for my second sub heading Before you suggest I do some reading, I better tell you I already have looked up MS help and haven't found much help... probably because it assumes the only language you understand is the one that matches the language of your operating system... but that's another story... I have been poking around Google too, but still not much help. In fact, I think I've done as people suggested, but still getting the wrong output. So I nearly gave up on that and went back to my good old friend, LaTeX. Except I can't make it understand Japanese. I tried to install the CJK package, but it fails at the last minute, probably when it actually tries to make use of the packages using the config utility. Honestly, I didn't mean to spend a whole day on this, but I now have spent most of the day trying to get close enough to spending a whole day on this document. So I'm getting a bit desperate now. If anyone can fish me out of this hole, that's greatly appreciated. Having said that, since I really need to get a move on, I might even go as far as numbering and indenting my paragraphs manually... X|
In Word2007; create your list as a straight forward list of lines, no bulletting / formatting or anything; just like this; a list item another list item yet another list item and just one more for luck Select all the lines and choose the multilevel list icon [1,3,i] on each line item, select Increase/Decrease Indentation [horizontal bars with left and right arrows] to set the necessary 1.2.1 etc for each line. 1. Some list item 1.1. Another list item 1.1.1. And another 2. And yet another Job done.
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I've been told to whip up some documentation. Fine, I'll just type something quickly on MS Word. Oh no! Not so fast! I forgot, MS Word just doesn't believe in nicely laid out documents. Please, someone explain to me, why on earth MS Word doesn't come with a sensible set of heading styles as default? All I want is this: 1. My first heading 1.1 My first sub heading 1.1.1 My first sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.1.2 My second sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.2 My Second sub heading 1.2.1 My first sub sub heading for my second sub heading 1.2.2 My second sub sub heading for my second sub heading I think it's not just me in the entire world that wants this. Then, why is it that I have to go build this myself!? And try as I might I only get this: 1. My first heading 1.1 My first sub heading 1.1.1 My first sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.1.2 My second sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.2 My Second sub heading 1.1.3 My first sub sub heading for my second sub heading 1.1.4 My second sub sub heading for my second sub heading Before you suggest I do some reading, I better tell you I already have looked up MS help and haven't found much help... probably because it assumes the only language you understand is the one that matches the language of your operating system... but that's another story... I have been poking around Google too, but still not much help. In fact, I think I've done as people suggested, but still getting the wrong output. So I nearly gave up on that and went back to my good old friend, LaTeX. Except I can't make it understand Japanese. I tried to install the CJK package, but it fails at the last minute, probably when it actually tries to make use of the packages using the config utility. Honestly, I didn't mean to spend a whole day on this, but I now have spent most of the day trying to get close enough to spending a whole day on this document. So I'm getting a bit desperate now. If anyone can fish me out of this hole, that's greatly appreciated. Having said that, since I really need to get a move on, I might even go as far as numbering and indenting my paragraphs manually... X|
It sounds as if your default template (normal.dot) got screwed up. First on your main document open the Bullets & Numbering dialog from the Format menu, select the Outline Numbered Tab, select the picture that looks most like this: 1 Heading 1 1.1 Heading 2 1.1.1 Heading 3 Click on customize and then click on more to display the full dialog. Click on each level in turn (well at least the first 3 or 4) - ensure that the "Start at" value is set to 1, the "Link level to style" is set to the correct heading style. For levels 2,3,4 & 5 the "Restart numbering after" should be selected and set to the previous level (e.g., Level 2 should contain "Level 1", Level 3 should contain "Level 2", etc.). If this works on your document then open the normal.dot file and make the same changes, save it (as a template) and everything should now work fine in the future (you might have to restart Word first). Hope that helps
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I've been told to whip up some documentation. Fine, I'll just type something quickly on MS Word. Oh no! Not so fast! I forgot, MS Word just doesn't believe in nicely laid out documents. Please, someone explain to me, why on earth MS Word doesn't come with a sensible set of heading styles as default? All I want is this: 1. My first heading 1.1 My first sub heading 1.1.1 My first sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.1.2 My second sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.2 My Second sub heading 1.2.1 My first sub sub heading for my second sub heading 1.2.2 My second sub sub heading for my second sub heading I think it's not just me in the entire world that wants this. Then, why is it that I have to go build this myself!? And try as I might I only get this: 1. My first heading 1.1 My first sub heading 1.1.1 My first sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.1.2 My second sub sub heading for my first sub heading 1.2 My Second sub heading 1.1.3 My first sub sub heading for my second sub heading 1.1.4 My second sub sub heading for my second sub heading Before you suggest I do some reading, I better tell you I already have looked up MS help and haven't found much help... probably because it assumes the only language you understand is the one that matches the language of your operating system... but that's another story... I have been poking around Google too, but still not much help. In fact, I think I've done as people suggested, but still getting the wrong output. So I nearly gave up on that and went back to my good old friend, LaTeX. Except I can't make it understand Japanese. I tried to install the CJK package, but it fails at the last minute, probably when it actually tries to make use of the packages using the config utility. Honestly, I didn't mean to spend a whole day on this, but I now have spent most of the day trying to get close enough to spending a whole day on this document. So I'm getting a bit desperate now. If anyone can fish me out of this hole, that's greatly appreciated. Having said that, since I really need to get a move on, I might even go as far as numbering and indenting my paragraphs manually... X|
I can't reproduce your error (but then again, I've heavily rebuilt my templates). What's happening is that you're using simple list numbering as the second element of your headings (not blaming you, but the last person who messed with your Normal.dot). Open the Styles pane, click the down arrow for the top-level heading style, and "modify" its "Format" > "numbering..." properties to make it outlined (pick an outlining style from the "Outline Numbered" tab). If all your other numbered headings are based on the top-level one, they will automatically inherit the outline-numbering properties. From there on, use the styles pane for all style/formatting changes; clicking toolbar formatting buttons is often a bad idea.
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I probably should have mentioned I use MS Word 2003, but then most of the comments I've had so far are relevant anyway, so not too much harm done...? :rolleyes: Anyway, it looks like the easier way is to format the text to look the way I want it to, then tell MS Word that that's what my headings are going to look like, rather than the other way around. Thanks for the input! :thumbsup:
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FWIW, this deals with Word 2003 http://www.shaunakelly.com/word/numbering/OutlineNumbering.html[^] Can't comment on its effectiveness
Actually, this one was brilliant. I think I got it sorted now... for now... Thanks to everyone that suggested solutions!!:thumbsup: