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    Mauricio Ritter
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    does anyone know a good way to protect my software from key loggers (except from a screen keyboard, that my users tend to complain) ? Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter :jig: I've gone sending to outer space, to find another race :jig:

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      does anyone know a good way to protect my software from key loggers (except from a screen keyboard, that my users tend to complain) ? Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter :jig: I've gone sending to outer space, to find another race :jig:

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      Paul Oss
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      Ultimately, no. But there are ways in which you can minimize the effects of keyloggers, sometimes adding to the frustration of your users. One way is to force them to generate a new password each time they log in. This can be handled in a variety of ways- all of which I won't go into here. But ultimately, this method should produce a password that is say, time based and only good for a few minutes-- long enough to log in. That way the keyloggers can log all the keystrokes they want but the passwords they capture will always be out of date. Paul Oss

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        does anyone know a good way to protect my software from key loggers (except from a screen keyboard, that my users tend to complain) ? Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter :jig: I've gone sending to outer space, to find another race :jig:

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        Daniel Turini
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        Yes, add support to single sign on NT authentication. And, yes, you'll have to explain to the user that leaving open a session within his machine is plain stupid. Q261186 - Computer Randomly Plays Classical Music

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          does anyone know a good way to protect my software from key loggers (except from a screen keyboard, that my users tend to complain) ? Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter :jig: I've gone sending to outer space, to find another race :jig:

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          Sean Cundiff
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          Haven't used it, don't know anything about it, but it's a place to start. * FIGHT BACK AGAINST UNAUTHORIZED PC MONITORING Raytown released Anti-keylogger, a software application that can provide computers with protection against most types of unauthorized activity monitoring. Unlike the typical antivirus pattern-matching product, Anti-keylogger works on new or unknown types of activity-monitoring programs to detect and eliminate threats to the integrity and security of your computer network. Anti-keylogger runs on Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows NT, Windows Me, and Windows 9x and costs $59.95 for a single license. Contact Raytown at press@anti-keyloggers.com or go to the Web site. http://www.anti-keyloggers.com[^] -Sean ---- Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein.

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            does anyone know a good way to protect my software from key loggers (except from a screen keyboard, that my users tend to complain) ? Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter :jig: I've gone sending to outer space, to find another race :jig:

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            Felix Gartsman
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            If you're concerned only about password enter, I thought on some hack (the method is probably used somewhere, so the credit probably isn't mine). For each letter generate a random letter, and then in a spin-edit like fashion using mouse/up-down keys allow the user to scroll to the correct letter. No keylogger can pass this, if you're random. Similar to slot machine.

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              Yes, add support to single sign on NT authentication. And, yes, you'll have to explain to the user that leaving open a session within his machine is plain stupid. Q261186 - Computer Randomly Plays Classical Music

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              Mauricio Ritter
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              Daniel Turini wrote: Yes, add support to single sign on NT authentication. I can´t... I have about 350.000 customers with access to my system... which one with his own login (users are added every day). Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter :jig: I've gone sending to outer space, to find another race :jig:

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                does anyone know a good way to protect my software from key loggers (except from a screen keyboard, that my users tend to complain) ? Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter :jig: I've gone sending to outer space, to find another race :jig:

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                Lost User
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                One thing I have seen - generate a 2 or 3 digit random numberwhich the user has to key in. Not perfect, but can trip up key loggers. Elaine (fluffy tigress emoticon) Would you like to meet my teddy bear ?

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                  If you're concerned only about password enter, I thought on some hack (the method is probably used somewhere, so the credit probably isn't mine). For each letter generate a random letter, and then in a spin-edit like fashion using mouse/up-down keys allow the user to scroll to the correct letter. No keylogger can pass this, if you're random. Similar to slot machine.

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                  ColinDavies
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                  That Idea soundz awesome !! Regardz Colin J Davies

                  Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                  You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                    Haven't used it, don't know anything about it, but it's a place to start. * FIGHT BACK AGAINST UNAUTHORIZED PC MONITORING Raytown released Anti-keylogger, a software application that can provide computers with protection against most types of unauthorized activity monitoring. Unlike the typical antivirus pattern-matching product, Anti-keylogger works on new or unknown types of activity-monitoring programs to detect and eliminate threats to the integrity and security of your computer network. Anti-keylogger runs on Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows NT, Windows Me, and Windows 9x and costs $59.95 for a single license. Contact Raytown at press@anti-keyloggers.com or go to the Web site. http://www.anti-keyloggers.com[^] -Sean ---- Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein.

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                    ColinDavies
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                    It mentions only software key-loggers, for about 20$ you can pick up a hardware extension logger or for 50$ an internal keyboard logger. Which apparently are quite effective. :(( Regardz Colin J Davies

                    Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                    You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                      Haven't used it, don't know anything about it, but it's a place to start. * FIGHT BACK AGAINST UNAUTHORIZED PC MONITORING Raytown released Anti-keylogger, a software application that can provide computers with protection against most types of unauthorized activity monitoring. Unlike the typical antivirus pattern-matching product, Anti-keylogger works on new or unknown types of activity-monitoring programs to detect and eliminate threats to the integrity and security of your computer network. Anti-keylogger runs on Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows NT, Windows Me, and Windows 9x and costs $59.95 for a single license. Contact Raytown at press@anti-keyloggers.com or go to the Web site. http://www.anti-keyloggers.com[^] -Sean ---- Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein.

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                      Mathew Lowery
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                      Was about to siggest that...

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                      • F Felix Gartsman

                        If you're concerned only about password enter, I thought on some hack (the method is probably used somewhere, so the credit probably isn't mine). For each letter generate a random letter, and then in a spin-edit like fashion using mouse/up-down keys allow the user to scroll to the correct letter. No keylogger can pass this, if you're random. Similar to slot machine.

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                        Mauricio Ritter
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                        interesting idea... but the problem is that the password would be visible at the screen. Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter :jig: I've gone sending to outer space, to find another race :jig:

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                          interesting idea... but the problem is that the password would be visible at the screen. Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter :jig: I've gone sending to outer space, to find another race :jig:

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                          Felix Gartsman
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                          Yep, but it's not a keylogger:) It's a screengabber:) There is a limit what a hack can solve. Use a smartcard.

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                            does anyone know a good way to protect my software from key loggers (except from a screen keyboard, that my users tend to complain) ? Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter :jig: I've gone sending to outer space, to find another race :jig:

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                            Mike Sax
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                            This is an interesting problem... You could draw your keyboard on the screen and have the user use the mouse to enter the password (or you could draw a numeric keypad, to keep things simple). You could even randomize the keys so logging all mouse movements wouldn't get you anywhere. Even if they take periodic screenshots, they'd only see a keypad. You could still have someone secretly install GotoMyPC, but I don't know what you could do against that, except maybe sound!


                            Mike Sax http://www.Sax.net Rock Solid Components™

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