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  • L l a u r e n

    david i hate to point this out to you but tiles need hoovering / sweeping twice a week too :laugh:

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    Completely off topic. How's NY treating you??? Band started? Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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      True Linoleum looks great and is very easy to care for (needs an expert to be laid out though). It's a bit epensive, but... well, for the money you can always take the cheapest carpet you can get, and order a cleaning woman twice a week to sweep it. My absolute preference is wood (great when barefoot), although it *is* an issue with use. And nothing is worse than an exploding housewife* exploding because you didn't lift the 8 ton chair before moving it around. Even on my old used and ugly wooden floor I have a stripe of carpet for the most walked part (computer & bed, you name it) *) mental image: David Wulff in an apron...

      Auch den Schatten will ich lieben weil ich manchmal lieber frier'  Rosenstolz   [sighist]

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      peterchen wrote: David Wulff in an apron... :wtf:... oh shit... no... X| X| X| [Thanks peterch X| en] Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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        Completely off topic. How's NY treating you??? Band started? Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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        nyc is good im moving into my own apt in 2 days got laptop dsl is ordered rollerblades are waiting in the shop band stuff isnt happening yet what more could i want? (apart from sun, sea, sand, love etc etc) :)

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          nyc is good im moving into my own apt in 2 days got laptop dsl is ordered rollerblades are waiting in the shop band stuff isnt happening yet what more could i want? (apart from sun, sea, sand, love etc etc) :)

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          Navin
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          lauren wrote: what more could i want? We won't ask what you're paying in rent to live in NYC. :-D NYC is a darn cool place... my sister lives there, but it is expensive. To rent a crummy apartment in Manhattan, she is paying twice what I pay on my *mortgage* for a whole house here in KY. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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            lauren wrote: what more could i want? We won't ask what you're paying in rent to live in NYC. :-D NYC is a darn cool place... my sister lives there, but it is expensive. To rent a crummy apartment in Manhattan, she is paying twice what I pay on my *mortgage* for a whole house here in KY. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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            i got a good deal a room in a real nice apt in the west village for $700/month friend of a friend etc etc

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              Okay, so this is a slightly odd question, but as it isn't related to drugs, sex or programming, and my attempt at accessing www.laminate-flooring-discussions.com failed, the Lounge will have to do... I want to redo the flooring in my bedroom. I am just not happy with my current carpet and to be honest the hassle of hoovering twice a week is getting to be more than I can bare. The problem is that I really don't know where to go. I could buy some more carpet, but that doesn't solve the hoovering problem and it would be a real pain in the bottom to lay correctly because of the odd shaped floor area of my bedroom. I could also take the wooden or tiled floor approach. The problem I see with tiles is that they are either carpet (which need hoovering) or ceramic (which would be cold). I also don't think ceramic tiles look very nice IMHO - they remind me of patios not bedrooms, and carpet tiles tend to be of commercial quality (not something you'd want to roll around on). So that leaves wooden flooring. But of course that has plenty of problems too. :(( My parents are useless to ask for advice because their first question is always "how much will it cost?", followed by expressions of horror, so I am trusting you with the future of my life for the next few years... Firstly, all of the furniture, the shelves and the skirting in my bedroom is beech (well laminate really with contiboard here and there). If I was to go for a laminate flooring I would need to choose beech again, surely, else it would look really odd. :~ One of my questions to you is is my "surely" assumption correct? I don't want my room to look like it was designed by a blind walrus, but then again I don't want it to look like a reject from the the club house of the Beech Lovers Society. If it is of importance, the walls are a creamy colour and the linen is either going to be red/pink, sand/pale brown, or black/grey. Secondly, suitability. Would you choose laminate flooring for a bedroom? :~ I have a nice rug lined up from a catalogue - :-O - that would match the new linen which ever colours I finally choose, so the main part of the floor that I would ever actually touch 'not-with-my-feet' would be soft (and rugs can be shaken outside). I suppose I'd need a chair mat to stop the surface in front of the flight deck--sorry, my desk, long story--from getting scratched. Anything I have missed? Lastly, is there anything I should know before writing the justification speech before approaching my mother? I'm going to put my neck ou

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              Megan Forbes
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              Being female I am afraid I don't know all the tech specs of flooring. But this seems like a good plan. Something easy to clean (tiles, the wood style stuff-thingy, lino, etc), but keep a nice stylish, thickish rug over it. This will stop your toes getting cold for those trips to the fridge in the middle of the night. Also, when you eventually get company, she will appreciate warm toes rather than freezing ones :-O

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              • L l a u r e n

                i got a good deal a room in a real nice apt in the west village for $700/month friend of a friend etc etc

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                Navin
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                Actually, that is a pretty good deal. You must have some connections... :suss: :-D Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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                • L l a u r e n

                  nyc is good im moving into my own apt in 2 days got laptop dsl is ordered rollerblades are waiting in the shop band stuff isnt happening yet what more could i want? (apart from sun, sea, sand, love etc etc) :)

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                  lauren wrote: nyc is good im moving into my own apt in 2 days got laptop dsl is ordered rollerblades are waiting in the shop Cool. Sounds like you'll be running that place in a while!!!! lauren wrote: band stuff isnt happening yet I hope it gets going for you soon. Regards, Brian Dela :-)

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                    Actually, that is a pretty good deal. You must have some connections... :suss: :-D Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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                    Navin wrote: Even a broken clock is right twice a day not a digital clock, tho.

                    "[it was..] one of those evenings when you feel that not only will there definitely be a revolution, but that the Association of Manufacturers will foot the bill." -- Umberto Eco, Foucault's Pendulum

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                      Navin wrote: Even a broken clock is right twice a day not a digital clock, tho.

                      "[it was..] one of those evenings when you feel that not only will there definitely be a revolution, but that the Association of Manufacturers will foot the bill." -- Umberto Eco, Foucault's Pendulum

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                      Navin
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                      Unless it is one of those types that flashes 12:00 all the time. ;P Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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                      • D David Wulff

                        Okay, so this is a slightly odd question, but as it isn't related to drugs, sex or programming, and my attempt at accessing www.laminate-flooring-discussions.com failed, the Lounge will have to do... I want to redo the flooring in my bedroom. I am just not happy with my current carpet and to be honest the hassle of hoovering twice a week is getting to be more than I can bare. The problem is that I really don't know where to go. I could buy some more carpet, but that doesn't solve the hoovering problem and it would be a real pain in the bottom to lay correctly because of the odd shaped floor area of my bedroom. I could also take the wooden or tiled floor approach. The problem I see with tiles is that they are either carpet (which need hoovering) or ceramic (which would be cold). I also don't think ceramic tiles look very nice IMHO - they remind me of patios not bedrooms, and carpet tiles tend to be of commercial quality (not something you'd want to roll around on). So that leaves wooden flooring. But of course that has plenty of problems too. :(( My parents are useless to ask for advice because their first question is always "how much will it cost?", followed by expressions of horror, so I am trusting you with the future of my life for the next few years... Firstly, all of the furniture, the shelves and the skirting in my bedroom is beech (well laminate really with contiboard here and there). If I was to go for a laminate flooring I would need to choose beech again, surely, else it would look really odd. :~ One of my questions to you is is my "surely" assumption correct? I don't want my room to look like it was designed by a blind walrus, but then again I don't want it to look like a reject from the the club house of the Beech Lovers Society. If it is of importance, the walls are a creamy colour and the linen is either going to be red/pink, sand/pale brown, or black/grey. Secondly, suitability. Would you choose laminate flooring for a bedroom? :~ I have a nice rug lined up from a catalogue - :-O - that would match the new linen which ever colours I finally choose, so the main part of the floor that I would ever actually touch 'not-with-my-feet' would be soft (and rugs can be shaken outside). I suppose I'd need a chair mat to stop the surface in front of the flight deck--sorry, my desk, long story--from getting scratched. Anything I have missed? Lastly, is there anything I should know before writing the justification speech before approaching my mother? I'm going to put my neck ou

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                        I must point out that laminate is not wooden flooring. The surface is melamine i.e. hard plastic.

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                          Okay, so this is a slightly odd question, but as it isn't related to drugs, sex or programming, and my attempt at accessing www.laminate-flooring-discussions.com failed, the Lounge will have to do... I want to redo the flooring in my bedroom. I am just not happy with my current carpet and to be honest the hassle of hoovering twice a week is getting to be more than I can bare. The problem is that I really don't know where to go. I could buy some more carpet, but that doesn't solve the hoovering problem and it would be a real pain in the bottom to lay correctly because of the odd shaped floor area of my bedroom. I could also take the wooden or tiled floor approach. The problem I see with tiles is that they are either carpet (which need hoovering) or ceramic (which would be cold). I also don't think ceramic tiles look very nice IMHO - they remind me of patios not bedrooms, and carpet tiles tend to be of commercial quality (not something you'd want to roll around on). So that leaves wooden flooring. But of course that has plenty of problems too. :(( My parents are useless to ask for advice because their first question is always "how much will it cost?", followed by expressions of horror, so I am trusting you with the future of my life for the next few years... Firstly, all of the furniture, the shelves and the skirting in my bedroom is beech (well laminate really with contiboard here and there). If I was to go for a laminate flooring I would need to choose beech again, surely, else it would look really odd. :~ One of my questions to you is is my "surely" assumption correct? I don't want my room to look like it was designed by a blind walrus, but then again I don't want it to look like a reject from the the club house of the Beech Lovers Society. If it is of importance, the walls are a creamy colour and the linen is either going to be red/pink, sand/pale brown, or black/grey. Secondly, suitability. Would you choose laminate flooring for a bedroom? :~ I have a nice rug lined up from a catalogue - :-O - that would match the new linen which ever colours I finally choose, so the main part of the floor that I would ever actually touch 'not-with-my-feet' would be soft (and rugs can be shaken outside). I suppose I'd need a chair mat to stop the surface in front of the flight deck--sorry, my desk, long story--from getting scratched. Anything I have missed? Lastly, is there anything I should know before writing the justification speech before approaching my mother? I'm going to put my neck ou

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                          I wouldn't put a tile floor into a bedroom. A tile floor would give your bedroom a "cold" feeling. However, a few strategically placed rugs would help with this. You can put down actual wood floors but this is a pretty big expense as well as a major pain. I've done wood floors. They aren't fun. If you want a glueless laminate flooring solution but would like the look of wood floors, I would go with Pergo (or a similar brand.) check out their web site: http://www.pergo.com/Pergo/US_Home/[^] I've seen Pergo installed before, it's much easier to do that an actual wood floors. In fact, I'm installing it in my living room next year (second on my list of home projects, right after new tile in the kitchen). Also, I wouldn't get a stain or color that exactly matches furniture. I would go with a floor color that is just a few shades darker or lighter (depending on your preference). A decent home improvement store should have chips you can take home of the different stain options.

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                            Okay, so this is a slightly odd question, but as it isn't related to drugs, sex or programming, and my attempt at accessing www.laminate-flooring-discussions.com failed, the Lounge will have to do... I want to redo the flooring in my bedroom. I am just not happy with my current carpet and to be honest the hassle of hoovering twice a week is getting to be more than I can bare. The problem is that I really don't know where to go. I could buy some more carpet, but that doesn't solve the hoovering problem and it would be a real pain in the bottom to lay correctly because of the odd shaped floor area of my bedroom. I could also take the wooden or tiled floor approach. The problem I see with tiles is that they are either carpet (which need hoovering) or ceramic (which would be cold). I also don't think ceramic tiles look very nice IMHO - they remind me of patios not bedrooms, and carpet tiles tend to be of commercial quality (not something you'd want to roll around on). So that leaves wooden flooring. But of course that has plenty of problems too. :(( My parents are useless to ask for advice because their first question is always "how much will it cost?", followed by expressions of horror, so I am trusting you with the future of my life for the next few years... Firstly, all of the furniture, the shelves and the skirting in my bedroom is beech (well laminate really with contiboard here and there). If I was to go for a laminate flooring I would need to choose beech again, surely, else it would look really odd. :~ One of my questions to you is is my "surely" assumption correct? I don't want my room to look like it was designed by a blind walrus, but then again I don't want it to look like a reject from the the club house of the Beech Lovers Society. If it is of importance, the walls are a creamy colour and the linen is either going to be red/pink, sand/pale brown, or black/grey. Secondly, suitability. Would you choose laminate flooring for a bedroom? :~ I have a nice rug lined up from a catalogue - :-O - that would match the new linen which ever colours I finally choose, so the main part of the floor that I would ever actually touch 'not-with-my-feet' would be soft (and rugs can be shaken outside). I suppose I'd need a chair mat to stop the surface in front of the flight deck--sorry, my desk, long story--from getting scratched. Anything I have missed? Lastly, is there anything I should know before writing the justification speech before approaching my mother? I'm going to put my neck ou

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                            I've just been in some meetings with some Microsoft folk extolling the virtues of our switched on, high tech, bleeding edge, technically savvy group of devs passionate about programming and I find a 28 message long thread about floor tiles. :slapshandagainsthead: :) cheers, Chris Maunder

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                              Hmm, I don't meet your criteria for giving good *style* advice, but I am a home-owner so I'll stick with the practical stuff. First of all, do you know what's underneath the carpet? Sometimes people put carpet over hardwood floors just becuase they like it better. If you rip out the carpet and have a hardwood floor, you can get it sanded and refinished, and unless there are a bunch of pet urine stains on it, it will probably look pretty nice. Other than that, laminate flooring or carpet sounds good. I am considering putting laminate flooring in my kitchen and bathrooms, simply becuase the vinyl looks pretty crappy. Ceramic tiles in a bedroom just doesn't seem right. If you go for anything but carpet, plastic or felt "feet" for your furniture is a good idea. As for your office.. what type of chair do you have? If it's one of those computer chairs with wheels, good laminate flooring might be able to handle it... otherwise get something to protect the floor from the chair (like a pad, or a rug, or whatever.) [EDIT] And if you go for carpet, consider wool carpeting. It lasts longer, is more durable, and is better environmentally than your typical carpet.... although you do have to vacuum it as much as any other carpet, and it can be more expensive. [/EDIT] Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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                              Navin wrote: First of all, do you know what's underneath the carpet? Concrete. :(( Navin wrote: what type of chair do you have? If it's one of those computer chairs with wheels, good laminate flooring might be able to handle it... otherwise get something to protect the floor from the chair (like a pad, or a rug, or whatever.) It has wheels, and yes I was thinking of (definately if I go the laminate route) getting a chair mat to protect the floor. Navin wrote: And if you go for carpet, consider wool carpeting. Sheeps wool carpet, eh? ;P The cost isn't quite as important as the easy of fitting it, and as my room has a fairly odd shaped floor I can see fitting carpet from the roll being a big problem. With lengths of wood you can just take the jigsaw to them - with carpet you need to fiddle around with those daft trimming things that make a mess of everything. :(( If I do decided to go the carpet route, I will probably hire a professional layer to fit it, so cost would go up considerably. It's always an option though.

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                                david i hate to point this out to you but tiles need hoovering / sweeping twice a week too :laugh:

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                                Sweeping I can handle (in fact I would probably just hoover it) - my gripe with hoovering carpet is that you need to go over the same spot about a dozen times with different types of head to really clean it, and that is a pain in the arse. :)

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                                  Hey David, bit steep and can wind up the electric bill but consider getting electric underfloor heating on whichever flooring you choose (okay not carpet). Have it on a timer so it warms it all up nice and toasty for when you get up. Works a treat in my bathroom! Either that or install electric heating in your slippers... Just have to avoid tripping over the electric cable wired to them though. hope it all goes good. Adam. www.beachwizard.com/travelogue[^] "I spent a lot of my money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered" George Best.

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                                  I had looked at underfloor heating, but all the information states they should either only be used beneath ceramic tiles or real wood flooring (the latter being *way* too expensive for me at £35 a square meter - and that is apparently very cheap!). Do you think it would be safe to install something like this[^] under laminate flooring? Hey, I suppose I could seal it to the concrete using grout or something suitable before laying the underlay foam and the laminate on top - that might work? I'd like to have the heating if I could, but I don't want to create a fire hazzard either. :~

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                                    True Linoleum looks great and is very easy to care for (needs an expert to be laid out though). It's a bit epensive, but... well, for the money you can always take the cheapest carpet you can get, and order a cleaning woman twice a week to sweep it. My absolute preference is wood (great when barefoot), although it *is* an issue with use. And nothing is worse than an exploding housewife* exploding because you didn't lift the 8 ton chair before moving it around. Even on my old used and ugly wooden floor I have a stripe of carpet for the most walked part (computer & bed, you name it) *) mental image: David Wulff in an apron...

                                    Auch den Schatten will ich lieben weil ich manchmal lieber frier'  Rosenstolz   [sighist]

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                                    peterchen wrote: mental image: David Wulff in an apron... I can send you a photo if you'd like... :suss:

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                                      I must point out that laminate is not wooden flooring. The surface is melamine i.e. hard plastic.

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                                      Yes I know that, but for all intents and purposes it is made to mimic real wood rather than a length of hardwood with a strip of melamine ironed on to it. Use wise (i.e. suitability and what not) they are identical. My skirting board is made of high density polystyrene not beech, but it still does the job, and that's all I really care about.

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                                        I've just been in some meetings with some Microsoft folk extolling the virtues of our switched on, high tech, bleeding edge, technically savvy group of devs passionate about programming and I find a 28 message long thread about floor tiles. :slapshandagainsthead: :) cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                        I guess some things are just more important that programming... :eek:

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                                          I've just been in some meetings with some Microsoft folk extolling the virtues of our switched on, high tech, bleeding edge, technically savvy group of devs passionate about programming and I find a 28 message long thread about floor tiles. :slapshandagainsthead: :) cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                          Well, to soften the blow a bit, someone *did* mention installing a false floor to ease running cable...

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