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  • L Lost User

    I just read a few stories (with some transcripts) about the opening of the Toyota recall / safety hearings going on in Washington DC this morning and all I can do is hang my head in shame. :sigh: US congressmen and congresswomen are too stupid to live. :((

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    Gary Wheeler
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    Mike Mullikin wrote:

    US congressmen and congresswomen are too stupid to live.

    Well, duh...

    Software Zen: delete this;

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    • L Lost User

      I just read a few stories (with some transcripts) about the opening of the Toyota recall / safety hearings going on in Washington DC this morning and all I can do is hang my head in shame. :sigh: US congressmen and congresswomen are too stupid to live. :((

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      Joe Woodbury
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      Mike Mullikin wrote:

      US congressmen and congresswomen are too stupid to live.

      Is this Obvious Day?

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        Mike Mullikin wrote:

        US congressmen and congresswomen are too stupid to live.

        Well, duh...

        Software Zen: delete this;

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        Lost User
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        Gary Wheeler wrote:

        Well, duh...

        Yeah, I know - too obvious. It just really galls me: One cretin went on a diatribe about cars being nothing but micro-processors and software. Another was stunned that steering and acceleration were electronic (no mechanical linkage). I'll bet these same morons ride in modern jets all the time without a worry. One clown (from my home state) said poor US citizens were crushed to learn that getting behind the wheel of their trusted Toyota was akin to getting in "killing machines". Then the first "witness" says during her "experience" she shifted into neutral and reverse with no effect. She was saved when "God intervened" and slowed the car down. Seriously!!!! If you're going to give God credit for the save why not give Him blame for the initial scare as well???

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          Mike Mullikin wrote:

          US congressmen and congresswomen are too stupid to live.

          Is this Obvious Day?

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          Lost User
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          Joe Woodbury wrote:

          Is this Obvious Day?

          Maybe - it's just depressing when it is reinforced so graphically/publicly.

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          • L Lost User

            I just read a few stories (with some transcripts) about the opening of the Toyota recall / safety hearings going on in Washington DC this morning and all I can do is hang my head in shame. :sigh: US congressmen and congresswomen are too stupid to live. :((

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            Shelby Robertson
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            Mike Mullikin wrote:

            US congressmen and congresswomen are too stupid to live. Cry

            So let's put them in charge of our healthcare...

            Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

            Unpaid overtime is slavery.

            Trollslayer wrote:

            Meetings - where minutes are taken and hours are lost.

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            • L Lost User

              Gary Wheeler wrote:

              Well, duh...

              Yeah, I know - too obvious. It just really galls me: One cretin went on a diatribe about cars being nothing but micro-processors and software. Another was stunned that steering and acceleration were electronic (no mechanical linkage). I'll bet these same morons ride in modern jets all the time without a worry. One clown (from my home state) said poor US citizens were crushed to learn that getting behind the wheel of their trusted Toyota was akin to getting in "killing machines". Then the first "witness" says during her "experience" she shifted into neutral and reverse with no effect. She was saved when "God intervened" and slowed the car down. Seriously!!!! If you're going to give God credit for the save why not give Him blame for the initial scare as well???

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              Joe Woodbury
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              Problem is Toyota can't testify that "after extensive research into issues with our automobiles, we have concluded that the problem is that too many assholes have driver licenses."

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              • S Shelby Robertson

                Mike Mullikin wrote:

                US congressmen and congresswomen are too stupid to live. Cry

                So let's put them in charge of our healthcare...

                Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                Unpaid overtime is slavery.

                Trollslayer wrote:

                Meetings - where minutes are taken and hours are lost.

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                Lost User
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                Yeah, the clowns will try to socialize it, huh! :rolleyes: Now, where's that Social Security check? I need to pay my for my supplementary Medicare benefits. ;P ;)

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                • L Lost User

                  Gary Wheeler wrote:

                  Well, duh...

                  Yeah, I know - too obvious. It just really galls me: One cretin went on a diatribe about cars being nothing but micro-processors and software. Another was stunned that steering and acceleration were electronic (no mechanical linkage). I'll bet these same morons ride in modern jets all the time without a worry. One clown (from my home state) said poor US citizens were crushed to learn that getting behind the wheel of their trusted Toyota was akin to getting in "killing machines". Then the first "witness" says during her "experience" she shifted into neutral and reverse with no effect. She was saved when "God intervened" and slowed the car down. Seriously!!!! If you're going to give God credit for the save why not give Him blame for the initial scare as well???

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                  Ray Cassick
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                  Mike Mullikin wrote:

                  If you're going to give God credit for the save why not give Him blame for the initial scare as well???

                  I never understood that :) No one ever credits god for the kill, just the save.


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                  • L Lost User

                    I just read a few stories (with some transcripts) about the opening of the Toyota recall / safety hearings going on in Washington DC this morning and all I can do is hang my head in shame. :sigh: US congressmen and congresswomen are too stupid to live. :((

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                    Dan Neely
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                    Mike Mullikin wrote:

                    US congressmen and congresswomen are too stupid to live. :((

                    No, the reason you should be crying is that they aren't quite that stupid. :((

                    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                    • D Dan Neely

                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                      US congressmen and congresswomen are too stupid to live. :((

                      No, the reason you should be crying is that they aren't quite that stupid. :((

                      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                      Lost User
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                      :laugh:

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                      • D Dan Neely

                        Mike Mullikin wrote:

                        US congressmen and congresswomen are too stupid to live. :((

                        No, the reason you should be crying is that they aren't quite that stupid. :((

                        3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                        True

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                        • S Shelby Robertson

                          Mike Mullikin wrote:

                          US congressmen and congresswomen are too stupid to live. Cry

                          So let's put them in charge of our healthcare...

                          Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                          Unpaid overtime is slavery.

                          Trollslayer wrote:

                          Meetings - where minutes are taken and hours are lost.

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                          Lost User
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                          Shelby Robertson wrote:

                          So let's put them in charge of our healthcare...

                          Healthcare debate in the US is like watching a slow motion train wreck, but I'll save my venom for another forum.

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                          • R Ray Cassick

                            Mike Mullikin wrote:

                            If you're going to give God credit for the save why not give Him blame for the initial scare as well???

                            I never understood that :) No one ever credits god for the kill, just the save.


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                            Oh it (god) gets credit...but it is always "God works in mysterious ways"....

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                            • L Lost User

                              I just read a few stories (with some transcripts) about the opening of the Toyota recall / safety hearings going on in Washington DC this morning and all I can do is hang my head in shame. :sigh: US congressmen and congresswomen are too stupid to live. :((

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                              Christopher Duncan
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                              • S Shelby Robertson

                                Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                US congressmen and congresswomen are too stupid to live. Cry

                                So let's put them in charge of our healthcare...

                                Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                                Unpaid overtime is slavery.

                                Trollslayer wrote:

                                Meetings - where minutes are taken and hours are lost.

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                                Chris Losinger
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                                odd how nobody ever complains that they're in charge of the worlds' largest killing machine.

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                                  odd how nobody ever complains that they're in charge of the worlds' largest killing machine.

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                                  Rob Graham
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                                  Actually they just finance it. The Executive branch runs it.

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                                  • R Rob Graham

                                    Actually they just finance it. The Executive branch runs it.

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                                    Chris Losinger
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                                    that's really not even close to true. the military is governed by statute. and statutes are laws. and you (should) know where laws come from. the executive controls the day to day operations, but Congress is ultimately in control. one small example: Don't Ask Don't Tell. it's a law, written by Congress, and it governs how the military has to treat homosexuals. the President has no authority to change it. more generally, see US Code Title 10[^] (or 32, or 50[^], etc)

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                                      that's really not even close to true. the military is governed by statute. and statutes are laws. and you (should) know where laws come from. the executive controls the day to day operations, but Congress is ultimately in control. one small example: Don't Ask Don't Tell. it's a law, written by Congress, and it governs how the military has to treat homosexuals. the President has no authority to change it. more generally, see US Code Title 10[^] (or 32, or 50[^], etc)

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Chris Losinger wrote:

                                      Don't Ask Don't Tell. it's a law, written by Congress,

                                      Actually it's a policy... From Wikipedia: "The policy was introduced as a compromise measure in 1993 by then-President Bill Clinton who, while campaigning for the Presidency, had promised to allow all citizens regardless of sexual orientation to serve openly in the military. At the time, as per 1982's Department of Defense Directive 1332.14, it was military policy that "homosexuality is incompatible with military service" and persons who engaged in homosexual acts or stated that they are homosexual or bisexual were to be discharged. Congress, opposing Clinton's proposed changes, included text in the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1994 (passed in 1993) requiring the military to abide by regulations essentially identical to the 1982 policy. The Clinton Administration on December 21, 1993 issued Department of Defense Directive 1304.26, which while following the letter of Congress's restrictions attempted to soften them by focusing on homosexual "conduct" rather than sexual orientation, and stating that military applicants are not to be asked what their sexual orientation is. This is the policy we now know as "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"." A policy set forth by a POTUS.

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                                        Chris Losinger wrote:

                                        Don't Ask Don't Tell. it's a law, written by Congress,

                                        Actually it's a policy... From Wikipedia: "The policy was introduced as a compromise measure in 1993 by then-President Bill Clinton who, while campaigning for the Presidency, had promised to allow all citizens regardless of sexual orientation to serve openly in the military. At the time, as per 1982's Department of Defense Directive 1332.14, it was military policy that "homosexuality is incompatible with military service" and persons who engaged in homosexual acts or stated that they are homosexual or bisexual were to be discharged. Congress, opposing Clinton's proposed changes, included text in the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1994 (passed in 1993) requiring the military to abide by regulations essentially identical to the 1982 policy. The Clinton Administration on December 21, 1993 issued Department of Defense Directive 1304.26, which while following the letter of Congress's restrictions attempted to soften them by focusing on homosexual "conduct" rather than sexual orientation, and stating that military applicants are not to be asked what their sexual orientation is. This is the policy we now know as "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"." A policy set forth by a POTUS.

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                                        Chris Losinger
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                                        err, i wouldn't treat Wiki as if its words were law. here's the very next paragraph:

                                        When passing the DADT bill, President Clinton cited U.S. Navy Radioman Third Class Schindler, who was brutally murdered by shipmate Terry M. Helvey (with the aid of an accomplice), leaving a "nearly-unrecognizable corpse".

                                        bills come from... ? maybe it's fair to say a policy is a regulation trying to follow a law. but you're not going to do away with DADT (in any meaningful way) without changing the underlying law. well, i guess it could be made more aggressive. but the President can't do away with the restriction altogether - which is what most people mean by "ending DADT" - [update] and which is what i meant by it. so strictly speaking, yes, DADT could be changed by a President.

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                                          err, i wouldn't treat Wiki as if its words were law. here's the very next paragraph:

                                          When passing the DADT bill, President Clinton cited U.S. Navy Radioman Third Class Schindler, who was brutally murdered by shipmate Terry M. Helvey (with the aid of an accomplice), leaving a "nearly-unrecognizable corpse".

                                          bills come from... ? maybe it's fair to say a policy is a regulation trying to follow a law. but you're not going to do away with DADT (in any meaningful way) without changing the underlying law. well, i guess it could be made more aggressive. but the President can't do away with the restriction altogether - which is what most people mean by "ending DADT" - [update] and which is what i meant by it. so strictly speaking, yes, DADT could be changed by a President.

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                                          Chris Losinger wrote:

                                          i wouldn't treat Wiki as if its words were law.

                                          Yet... you quote them as well - along with provocative text. Nice. :rolleyes: Show me the actual law and I'll agree, otherwise don't hi-jack my anti-Congress OP. ;P

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