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Five Nato states to urge removal of US nuclear arms in Europe

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  • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

    Do you want to look at the 19th? because that works out even worse for you unprovoced attacks on other countries and losing too. basically you have a rose tinted view of what the US was, maybe you should actually look at what things were like during your perfect period, I think you will be horrified as to how little rights the average citizen actually had just because I disagree I am a moron eh? maybe if you put thought into your posts instead of just mindless rants than I might take you seriously, but from reading your posts I doubt your IQ would make a decent basketball score.

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    CaptainSeeSharp
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    You don't even know what the fuck I am talking about. I was talking about how it is supposed to be, not how it is.

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    • C CaptainSeeSharp

      You don't even know what the fuck I am talking about. I was talking about how it is supposed to be, not how it is.

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      Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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      No it would seem that its you that doesnt know what your talking about, you seem to think that somehow reverting to a fail system will fix everything despite history saying it doesnt work

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      • C Christian Graus

        Apart from the obvious bloodlust, which is obviously compensation for your own failed life, might I ask how you'd pay for this alleged war ? The US is currently a banana republic as far as I can see.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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        Is it me or has his langauge got significantly worse? what do you think, has he run out of medication or have they changed it and its not working very well?

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        • C CaptainSeeSharp

          Yes, but the point of our military is to protect our property and liberties, not Europe's or Korean's.

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          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

          the point of our military is to protect our property and liberties

          Of course. But those assets located in other countries and territories not owned by (as in "leased" to) the United States, once you decide to leave, you will create a vacuum. That vacuum sooner or later will get occupied, not necessarily by somebody else's armed forces, but it could just be that. And once you leave such areas you no longer have claim to those assets (the air base, the naval dockyard, the army base). An example ... The British Territory of Diego Garcia (in the Indian Ocean), if your United States Air Force chose to depart that island, what rights would you have if Britain then leased the base to another country, or Britain re-occupied the base with its own armed forces, of if Britain just returned it to its original human inhabitants, or if Britain washed it hands of it completely. Thus, you would no longer have use or claim to the land and buildings located at that air base. A vacuum would thus exist. And this vacuum might be filled by either friendly or hostile-to-America forces. What could you do ... Legally nothing ... The air base would be no longer yours to do whatever with.

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          • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

            No it would seem that its you that doesnt know what your talking about, you seem to think that somehow reverting to a fail system will fix everything despite history saying it doesnt work

            Smile and the world smiles withyou, laugh and they think you are a nutter

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            CaptainSeeSharp
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            Alex hogarth wrote:

            history saying it doesnt work

            It's a myth. Your failed strategies have results such as the War on Drugs, War on Terror, and War on Poverty (subsidizing failure).

            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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            • C CaptainSeeSharp

              Alex hogarth wrote:

              history saying it doesnt work

              It's a myth. Your failed strategies have results such as the War on Drugs, War on Terror, and War on Poverty (subsidizing failure).

              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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              Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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              no I have to say that its YOUR countries strategy not mine. So you say they have failed, well so did the ones your propose, why not continue with these failed policy as apposed to reverting back to the older failed policy? each has failed so why one over the other?

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              • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                Is it me or has his langauge got significantly worse? what do you think, has he run out of medication or have they changed it and its not working very well?

                Smile and the world smiles withyou, laugh and they think you are a nutter

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                Christian Graus
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                When I offered to pay for him to get a psych evaluation, he said there's no way he'd submit to that, or ever take drugs that were prescribed for him. He's made clear he has no issue with unprescribed mind altering drugs, but that's hardly the biggest act of hypocrisy he's ever been guilty of.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                  What the hell are you talking about? I was not talking about anything specific you dumbfuck.

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                  Christian Graus
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                  "If an enemy force thinks that they will fill in the vacuum and launch a campaign of command & conquer, then there would be a real war. Unlike the "war" we are "fighting" in the middle east, we would declare war on the country responsible, and strike them down hard, relentlessly slaughtering and destroying non-stop until they surrender. That is the way a war should be." Yes, you were talking in general about a fantasy of power that is divorced from your failed every day life.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    "If an enemy force thinks that they will fill in the vacuum and launch a campaign of command & conquer, then there would be a real war. Unlike the "war" we are "fighting" in the middle east, we would declare war on the country responsible, and strike them down hard, relentlessly slaughtering and destroying non-stop until they surrender. That is the way a war should be." Yes, you were talking in general about a fantasy of power that is divorced from your failed every day life.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    CaptainSeeSharp
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                    So you agree that the US should be the constant global military force of the world?

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      When I offered to pay for him to get a psych evaluation, he said there's no way he'd submit to that, or ever take drugs that were prescribed for him. He's made clear he has no issue with unprescribed mind altering drugs, but that's hardly the biggest act of hypocrisy he's ever been guilty of.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      CaptainSeeSharp
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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      He's made clear he has no issue with unprescribed mind altering drugs, but that's hardly the biggest act of hypocrisy he's ever been guilty of.

                      There is a big difference between an occasional glass of wine or joint and having synthetic mind altering chemicals circulating through your system 24x7.

                      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                      • C CaptainSeeSharp

                        So you agree that the US should be the constant global military force of the world?

                        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                        Christian Graus
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                        Well, this is interesting. I guess this is the same level of literacy that had you calling me a eugenicist. On what basis do you ask that ?

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        • C CaptainSeeSharp

                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          He's made clear he has no issue with unprescribed mind altering drugs, but that's hardly the biggest act of hypocrisy he's ever been guilty of.

                          There is a big difference between an occasional glass of wine or joint and having synthetic mind altering chemicals circulating through your system 24x7.

                          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                          Christian Graus
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                          Yes. One is prescribed by a health professional to deal with your mental diseases. The other is likely to make them worse.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            Yes. One is prescribed by a health professional to deal with your mental diseases. The other is likely to make them worse.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            CaptainSeeSharp
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                            One makes you hungry and happy and fades away after 2 hours, the other one stays in your system 24x7 and destroys.

                            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                            • C CaptainSeeSharp

                              One makes you hungry and happy and fades away after 2 hours, the other one stays in your system 24x7 and destroys.

                              Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                              Christian Graus
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                              The only thing it would destroy, is your delusions and mental illness. I am serious. Everyone here gets a laugh out of how stupid and deluded you are, but the fact is, you need help. If you refuse to get it, you're only achievement in life will be a spectacle for the amusement and derision of others. Is that what you want in life ?

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              • C Christian Graus

                                The only thing it would destroy, is your delusions and mental illness. I am serious. Everyone here gets a laugh out of how stupid and deluded you are, but the fact is, you need help. If you refuse to get it, you're only achievement in life will be a spectacle for the amusement and derision of others. Is that what you want in life ?

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                CaptainSeeSharp
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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                I am serious.

                                You are ignorant.

                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                The only thing it would destroy, is your delusions and mental illness.

                                Its a bunch of chemicals that they stumbled upon that was found to manipulate certain parts of the brain in a way that makes you emotionally numb, tranquilized or stimulated, and impairs your judgment. Not to mention the psychical side effects.

                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                you need help

                                I need money, I need a job. Not drugs.

                                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  I am serious.

                                  You are ignorant.

                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  The only thing it would destroy, is your delusions and mental illness.

                                  Its a bunch of chemicals that they stumbled upon that was found to manipulate certain parts of the brain in a way that makes you emotionally numb, tranquilized or stimulated, and impairs your judgment. Not to mention the psychical side effects.

                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  you need help

                                  I need money, I need a job. Not drugs.

                                  Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album (They sound very much like Metallica, great lyrics too)[^]

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                                  Christian Graus
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                                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                  You are ignorant.

                                  ROTFL !!! Yes, you do tend to revert to insults when things get too close to the bone.

                                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                  Its a bunch of chemicals that they stumbled upon that was found to manipulate certain parts of the brain in a way that makes you emotionally numb, tranquilized or stimulated, and impairs your judgment. Not to mention the psychical side effects.

                                  Sure, there are side effects, but they are used because the side effects add up to less impact on the ability to function in life, than the disease that they treat.

                                  CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                  I need money, I need a job. Not drugs.

                                  And what are you doing to find those things ? Do you think that perhaps if you could function like normal people, you might have more luck ?

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                    You are ignorant.

                                    ROTFL !!! Yes, you do tend to revert to insults when things get too close to the bone.

                                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                    Its a bunch of chemicals that they stumbled upon that was found to manipulate certain parts of the brain in a way that makes you emotionally numb, tranquilized or stimulated, and impairs your judgment. Not to mention the psychical side effects.

                                    Sure, there are side effects, but they are used because the side effects add up to less impact on the ability to function in life, than the disease that they treat.

                                    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                                    I need money, I need a job. Not drugs.

                                    And what are you doing to find those things ? Do you think that perhaps if you could function like normal people, you might have more luck ?

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    CaptainSeeSharp
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                                    while(css)
                                    Happiness += Money;

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                                      while(css)
                                      Happiness += Money;

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                                      if (css != this.world)
                                      {
                                      money = 0;
                                      }
                                      else if (css == get.help)
                                      {
                                      money ++;
                                      }
                                      else
                                      {
                                      css = no.hope;
                                      }

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                                      • I Ian Shlasko

                                        We would have been there earlier, if not for the self-centric isolationist agenda you see spouted by CSS. That was our policy, more or less, until Japan woke us up with a kick to the naval rear end. Now, we're being very sure not to make that mistake again. I think WW2 perfectly illustrates the argument against isolationism... Even if a country does not directly attack us, an unchecked war will eventually affect everyone. If we had stepped into WW2 earlier, I bet a lot of lives could have been saved, including (But obviously not limited to) all of the AMERICAN lives lost at Pearl Harbor. And if Japan hadn't screwed up by waking the sleeping lion, as they say, the Nazis may well have taken over Europe, expanded for a while (Hey, none of OUR business, right?), and eventually come at us in force. Better to stop these things as early as possible. (No offense intended to the Europeans... You guys put up a hell of a fight and took a lot of punishment. We just tipped the scales.)

                                        Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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                                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                        And if Japan hadn't screwed up by waking the sleeping lion

                                        Have you read any history of the relationship between Japan and the USA? From US enforced trading agreements to Hiroshima? Not pretty.

                                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                        Nazis may well would have taken over Europe

                                        FTFY

                                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                        Hey, none of OUR business, right?

                                        Well, since you ask, not really.

                                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                        and eventually come at us in force.

                                        Why? You have nothing they would have wanted. Anyway, they would have had their hands full subduing Eastern Europe.

                                        Ian Shlasko wrote:

                                        No offense intended to the Europeans

                                        (And I intend no offence to the citizens of the USA, people of my age know the sacrifices made. Not first hand, of course - I'm not that old! But from my father's generation who fought alongside the Americans.)

                                        Bob Emmett @ Ynys Thanatos

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