Gas bill
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No, heat pumps[^]. They work great for cooling but their efficiency as a heater sucks when it gets really cold. When really cold is rare they're still better than spending a few grand on a separate furnace; but that doesn't make them cheap to run when it happens.
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Just got my gas bill after submitting a meter reading. Apparently I owe them £467.15 for the winter period. I know it was cold, I know the wife left the heating on most days but £467??? They'll be getting a stern call from me this evening. Bastards.
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In my Gasoil heated house we used to get a bill for 700$ USD every second week. ...You guys are telling me you spend more then that for an entire season??
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My heating bill for this winter, in New York City, was almost zero... Quad-core desktop + Big screen TV + Good quality windows = No need for a heater, unless it drops below 0F outside. Actually I've been opening the windows a little now and then, to cool the place down. Now... Summer on the other hand... My air conditioner pretty much has to run for four months straight...
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Author of Guardians of Xen (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novel)Ian Shlasko wrote:
My heating bill for this winter, in New York City
Ah, but I'm in upperstate NY, in Philmont, about 40 miles south of Albany. Marc
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In my Gasoil heated house we used to get a bill for 700$ USD every second week. ...You guys are telling me you spend more then that for an entire season??
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Just got my gas bill after submitting a meter reading. Apparently I owe them £467.15 for the winter period. I know it was cold, I know the wife left the heating on most days but £467??? They'll be getting a stern call from me this evening. Bastards.
Tychotics: take us back to the moon "Life, for ever dying to be born afresh, for ever young and eager, will presently stand upon this earth as upon a footstool, and stretch out its realm amidst the stars." H. G. Wells
The misses once used over 200 quid a quarter in the garden one summer! NOT TO MENTION THE DAMNED PHONE BILL. I tell you, go away contracting and the wedge gets used up chatting togod knoes who! Mind you, she hasnt smacked the car up for a few years so shes getting better.
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No, heat pumps[^]. They work great for cooling but their efficiency as a heater sucks when it gets really cold. When really cold is rare they're still better than spending a few grand on a separate furnace; but that doesn't make them cheap to run when it happens.
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"If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's a duck" Its purpose is (temporarily) providing heat and it's mainly using electricity -> electrical heating Anyway my point wasn't that a machine like that should always be called an electric heater, but that it's going to be expensive - and a few grand on a separate furnace? Why? How are they getting their hot water? Surely they take hot showers over there? :)
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Just got my gas bill after submitting a meter reading. Apparently I owe them £467.15 for the winter period. I know it was cold, I know the wife left the heating on most days but £467??? They'll be getting a stern call from me this evening. Bastards.
Tychotics: take us back to the moon "Life, for ever dying to be born afresh, for ever young and eager, will presently stand upon this earth as upon a footstool, and stretch out its realm amidst the stars." H. G. Wells
Natural Gas here in the Dallas seems inexpensive and at our house we use it for cooking, heating and the water heater. We kept the house at 68F/20C and our bill was usually under $125 during the coldest months. This could also be due to having our house really well insulated and facing east-west so it gets lots of sun. It gets a bit more painful in the summer though and why we installed a solar cells a few years ago.
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In my Gasoil heated house we used to get a bill for 700$ USD every second week. ...You guys are telling me you spend more then that for an entire season??
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Holly Crap. I think our gas bill is under $1K US for the entire year.
And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell
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Marc Clifton wrote:
I can easily spend 300USD a month on heating
I assume that you burn hobos to make up the shortfall.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
I assume that you burn hobos to make up the shortfall.
Luxury! We couldn't afford 'oboes; we 'ad to chop off our legs and burn 'em over a single, wet match, that we'd saved up for for three weeks, then eat what were left for breakfast, when it were cold and clammy!
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I've got the same problem. Adding insult to injury the heat I almost never use (I only actually turned the heat on for a few days when the highs were in the single digits this winter and only actually heard it kicking on once per evening) is paid for by the landlord, but the air conditioner runs on electricity I pay for. :doh:
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"If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's a duck" Its purpose is (temporarily) providing heat and it's mainly using electricity -> electrical heating Anyway my point wasn't that a machine like that should always be called an electric heater, but that it's going to be expensive - and a few grand on a separate furnace? Why? How are they getting their hot water? Surely they take hot showers over there? :)
harold aptroot wrote:
Its purpose is (temporarily) providing heat and it's mainly using electricity -> electrical heating Anyway my point wasn't that a machine like that should always be called an electric heater, but that it's going to be expensive
That implies electrical resistive heating; and in the designed temperature range a heatpump is several times more efficient; it's only when temps go well below freezing that they start to suck.
harold aptroot wrote:
How are they getting their hot water? Surely they take hot showers over there?
A hot water heater that only costs a few hundred bucks. If it's electric and not new construction, or an older gas model it's a relatively low powered heater that's hooked up to a 50ish gallon tank of water that it maintains at the desired temperature. Tankless models are getting more common but are expensive to refit in houses without gas because the whole house sized models can require upwards of 100A of 220VAC or 208V 3-phase current which typically requires a major wiring upgrade. Smaller per room units have lower peak draws but I'd assume you'd need to plan for having several running at once and still probably end up having to upgrade the house's electrical service even if you didn't need to run very thick wiring to power them.
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In my Gasoil heated house we used to get a bill for 700$ USD every second week. ...You guys are telling me you spend more then that for an entire season??
Check out the CodeProject forum Guidelines[^] The original soapbox 1.0 is back![^]
EliottA wrote:
In my oil heated house we used to get a bill for 700$ USD every second week.
*cringe* Is your house enormous and totally uninsulated? IIRC with a late 70's era furnace with improperly sized ductwork and no insulation in the walls at all my parents only used ~1000-1500 gallons/year for a 1200 sqft house. After insulating most winters they got by with just 3x275gallon tanks, and after getting a new furnace/ductwork they've only needed to fill the 2 tanks in the basement.
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Just got my gas bill after submitting a meter reading. Apparently I owe them £467.15 for the winter period. I know it was cold, I know the wife left the heating on most days but £467??? They'll be getting a stern call from me this evening. Bastards.
Tychotics: take us back to the moon "Life, for ever dying to be born afresh, for ever young and eager, will presently stand upon this earth as upon a footstool, and stretch out its realm amidst the stars." H. G. Wells