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8th graders don't think you're cool

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  • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

    Isn't it too soon for them to find out whether they are really interested in programming. What was the hot career? When I was in 8th grade, I wanted to be an Air Force Pilot.

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    wolfbinary
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    I knew I wanted to program since I was in 5th or 6th grade.

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      I knew I wanted to program since I was in 5th or 6th grade.

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      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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      Sure! But how many more wolfbinaries where there in your class or in the entire school?

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      • C Christopher Duncan

        I participated in a Career Day today for 8th graders. A group of businesspeople rotate through classrooms, talk about what they do and field questions. While I focused on my copywriting & speaking business, I touched on my previous lifetimes, including programming. In each of half a dozen classrooms, I asked how many people were interested in getting into programming / software development as a career. The grand total for all classes? Zero. The wild and wooly geek was once an object of fear, awe and admiration, a creature so bold and exciting that large masses of people wanted to become one. However, as best I can determine from limited empirical evidence, you are no longer cool. Certainly not in the eyes of the up and coming generation. Just thought you'd want to know. :)

        Christopher Duncan
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        Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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        peterchen
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        To quote Shoggoth: Meh. Todays kids mantra seems to be "don't care about anyhting" - at least, noone should notice.

        Christopher Duncan wrote:

        The wild and wooly geek was once an object of fear, awe and admiration, a creature so bold and exciting that large masses of people wanted to become one

        Uhuh. Yes, please continue....

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          You will have to lie for that?? what happened??? ;P :laugh:

          I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!

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          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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          Well, I don't actually own a Ferrari. Not enough trunk space :p

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            To quote Shoggoth: Meh. Todays kids mantra seems to be "don't care about anyhting" - at least, noone should notice.

            Christopher Duncan wrote:

            The wild and wooly geek was once an object of fear, awe and admiration, a creature so bold and exciting that large masses of people wanted to become one

            Uhuh. Yes, please continue....

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            jeron1
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            peterchen wrote:

            Todays kids mantra seems to be "don't care about anyhting" - at least, noone should notice.

            I got a feeling that our folks said the exact same thing. And so did their folks.......

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            • W wolfbinary

              I knew I wanted to program since I was in 5th or 6th grade.

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              Henry Minute
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              Be sure to let us know, if you ever succeed. :-D

              Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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              • J jeron1

                peterchen wrote:

                Todays kids mantra seems to be "don't care about anyhting" - at least, noone should notice.

                I got a feeling that our folks said the exact same thing. And so did their folks.......

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                Henry Minute
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                Oh no I didn't!!

                Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                • C Christopher Duncan

                  I participated in a Career Day today for 8th graders. A group of businesspeople rotate through classrooms, talk about what they do and field questions. While I focused on my copywriting & speaking business, I touched on my previous lifetimes, including programming. In each of half a dozen classrooms, I asked how many people were interested in getting into programming / software development as a career. The grand total for all classes? Zero. The wild and wooly geek was once an object of fear, awe and admiration, a creature so bold and exciting that large masses of people wanted to become one. However, as best I can determine from limited empirical evidence, you are no longer cool. Certainly not in the eyes of the up and coming generation. Just thought you'd want to know. :)

                  Christopher Duncan
                  www.PracticalUSA.com
                  Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                  Copywriting Services

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                  dighn
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                  Not surprising. The popular culture of today is anti-intellectual, and programming has been largely commoditized.

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                  • H Henry Minute

                    Oh no I didn't!!

                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”

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                    jeron1
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                    Sure you did, you just don't remember. :-D

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                    • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                      Bring to the class a paper bag with bread, a jar of jelly, a jar of peanut butter, and a pre-approved plastic knife then ask the class to instruct you in making the sandwich. Follow instructions literally. If that fails to gain their attention, try this: "You know that game Call of Duty? Yeah, I made that" (Change name of the game for the times) Realistically, I think if I ever do a career day I will just lie. I will say I am an overpaid consultant that travels the country telling other people how to do their jobs. I spend my free-time on boats, flying airplanes, and playing video games. I will then show photographs of super models and claim to be their friends. I will then emphatically state that their teacher is a moron whose only goal is for them to pass the State mandated testing with a high enough score to ensure tenure. I will then point outside to the parking lot at the rented Ferrari claiming it as my own and ask if there are any questions.

                      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                      Jim Crafton
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                      You know, if you really do that can you please record it for posterity? I'd love to watch the video of that :)

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                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                        Isn't it too soon for them to find out whether they are really interested in programming. What was the hot career? When I was in 8th grade, I wanted to be an Air Force Pilot.

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                        Doctor Nick
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                        Well, I had to fail out at accounting before I decided to go into CS. I had the idea in my head that I didn't want to actually go into something I saw as a hobby because then it wouldn't be any fun for me once it was my job. To a point that's happened but not like I thought it would. Interestingly enough all the people who couldn't cut it in the CS department ended up as business majors which lead them to project management/business analyst positions... :-D

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                        • C Christopher Duncan

                          I participated in a Career Day today for 8th graders. A group of businesspeople rotate through classrooms, talk about what they do and field questions. While I focused on my copywriting & speaking business, I touched on my previous lifetimes, including programming. In each of half a dozen classrooms, I asked how many people were interested in getting into programming / software development as a career. The grand total for all classes? Zero. The wild and wooly geek was once an object of fear, awe and admiration, a creature so bold and exciting that large masses of people wanted to become one. However, as best I can determine from limited empirical evidence, you are no longer cool. Certainly not in the eyes of the up and coming generation. Just thought you'd want to know. :)

                          Christopher Duncan
                          www.PracticalUSA.com
                          Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                          Copywriting Services

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                          Caslen
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                          Christopher Duncan wrote:

                          The wild and wooly geek was once an object of fear, awe and admiration, a creature so bold and exciting that large masses of people wanted to become one

                          Since when? I've never met anyone who wanted to be a geek - met plenty who wanted to punch one though :)

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                            You know, if you really do that can you please record it for posterity? I'd love to watch the video of that :)

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                            Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                            Which one, the PBJ? Or the funnier one?

                            Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                              Christopher Duncan wrote:

                              The wild and wooly geek was once an object of fear, awe and admiration, a creature so bold and exciting that large masses of people wanted to become one

                              Since when? I've never met anyone who wanted to be a geek - met plenty who wanted to punch one though :)

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                              Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                              5! That's the best reply so far!

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                              • C Christopher Duncan

                                I participated in a Career Day today for 8th graders. A group of businesspeople rotate through classrooms, talk about what they do and field questions. While I focused on my copywriting & speaking business, I touched on my previous lifetimes, including programming. In each of half a dozen classrooms, I asked how many people were interested in getting into programming / software development as a career. The grand total for all classes? Zero. The wild and wooly geek was once an object of fear, awe and admiration, a creature so bold and exciting that large masses of people wanted to become one. However, as best I can determine from limited empirical evidence, you are no longer cool. Certainly not in the eyes of the up and coming generation. Just thought you'd want to know. :)

                                Christopher Duncan
                                www.PracticalUSA.com
                                Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                                Copywriting Services

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                                AspDotNetDev
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                                I assume you had a control in place to verify your results? Did you ask them if they were interested in law enforcement, for example? You'd have to phrase it "law enforcement", not "fire fighting" or "CSI"... because those are obviously cool. ;P

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                                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                  Which one, the PBJ? Or the funnier one?

                                  Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                                  Jim Crafton
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                                  Oh the second one definitely :) I'm pretty sure none of these kids can "make" anything related to real food, unless it's processed in a plastic bag or a microwave.

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                                  • C Christopher Duncan

                                    I participated in a Career Day today for 8th graders. A group of businesspeople rotate through classrooms, talk about what they do and field questions. While I focused on my copywriting & speaking business, I touched on my previous lifetimes, including programming. In each of half a dozen classrooms, I asked how many people were interested in getting into programming / software development as a career. The grand total for all classes? Zero. The wild and wooly geek was once an object of fear, awe and admiration, a creature so bold and exciting that large masses of people wanted to become one. However, as best I can determine from limited empirical evidence, you are no longer cool. Certainly not in the eyes of the up and coming generation. Just thought you'd want to know. :)

                                    Christopher Duncan
                                    www.PracticalUSA.com
                                    Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                                    Copywriting Services

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                                    Chris Losinger
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                                    i spent most of Jr High trying to hide the fact that i was a geek. i did that by spending a lot of time reading, playing on computers and avoiding jocks. somehow, they saw right through my charade.

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                                    • C Christopher Duncan

                                      I participated in a Career Day today for 8th graders. A group of businesspeople rotate through classrooms, talk about what they do and field questions. While I focused on my copywriting & speaking business, I touched on my previous lifetimes, including programming. In each of half a dozen classrooms, I asked how many people were interested in getting into programming / software development as a career. The grand total for all classes? Zero. The wild and wooly geek was once an object of fear, awe and admiration, a creature so bold and exciting that large masses of people wanted to become one. However, as best I can determine from limited empirical evidence, you are no longer cool. Certainly not in the eyes of the up and coming generation. Just thought you'd want to know. :)

                                      Christopher Duncan
                                      www.PracticalUSA.com
                                      Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                                      Copywriting Services

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                                      Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                      Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                      The wild and wooly geek was once an object of fear, awe and admiration, a creature so bold and exciting that large masses of people wanted to become one

                                      Seriously, when was that? In all fairness, where I grew up girls liked smart guys and there was no "geek" stigma, but "an object of fear, awe and admiration"? You must be a writer ;P

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                                        I participated in a Career Day today for 8th graders. A group of businesspeople rotate through classrooms, talk about what they do and field questions. While I focused on my copywriting & speaking business, I touched on my previous lifetimes, including programming. In each of half a dozen classrooms, I asked how many people were interested in getting into programming / software development as a career. The grand total for all classes? Zero. The wild and wooly geek was once an object of fear, awe and admiration, a creature so bold and exciting that large masses of people wanted to become one. However, as best I can determine from limited empirical evidence, you are no longer cool. Certainly not in the eyes of the up and coming generation. Just thought you'd want to know. :)

                                        Christopher Duncan
                                        www.PracticalUSA.com
                                        Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
                                        Copywriting Services

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                                        Keith Barrow
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                                        They aint all that!

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                                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                                          5! That's the best reply so far!

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                                          Caslen
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                                          I was usually the one receiving the punching so I should know :)

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