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    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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    Google Maps now has Bike routes. It gave some interesting route from my home to work (about 15 miles) which is a little shorter (0.9 miles) than my regular route.

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      Google Maps now has Bike routes. It gave some interesting route from my home to work (about 15 miles) which is a little shorter (0.9 miles) than my regular route.

      modified on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 5:03 PM

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      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

      Google Maps now has Bike routes.

      Only in the US :(

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        Google Maps now has Bike routes. It gave some interesting route from my home to work (about 15 miles) which is a little shorter (0.9 miles) than my regular route.

        modified on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 5:03 PM

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        But does the new direction take you through drug infested neighbourhoods ? :P

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          Google Maps now has Bike routes. It gave some interesting route from my home to work (about 15 miles) which is a little shorter (0.9 miles) than my regular route.

          modified on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 5:03 PM

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          Christopher Duncan
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          I hope it keeps them on the woodland trails and off the city streets. A 50 mph road designed to accomodate high speed motor vehicles is not a place for targets bicycles, regardless of who pays what taxes. It's simply dangerous to both parties. [edit] I'd originally said "stupid and dangerous," which I've altered to remove the former as it wasn't my intention to be insulting. The dangerous aspect I stand by as I've seen spandex wearing cyclists cause countless close calls on roads where they really had no business being. [/edit] [edit2] And I did it before Rama threatened me with the hamsters![/edit2] :-D

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            I hope it keeps them on the woodland trails and off the city streets. A 50 mph road designed to accomodate high speed motor vehicles is not a place for targets bicycles, regardless of who pays what taxes. It's simply dangerous to both parties. [edit] I'd originally said "stupid and dangerous," which I've altered to remove the former as it wasn't my intention to be insulting. The dangerous aspect I stand by as I've seen spandex wearing cyclists cause countless close calls on roads where they really had no business being. [/edit] [edit2] And I did it before Rama threatened me with the hamsters![/edit2] :-D

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            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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            Christopher Duncan wrote:

            stupid and dangerous

            That offense would have kicked you out of this site. Just remember that a biker owns this site. :)

            Christopher Duncan wrote:

            I've seen spandex wearing cyclists

            I think, most spandex wearing bikers, are professional or semi-professional and follow the bike safety rules well. I always had issues with the people who ride on the wrong side wearing black clothes after the sun has set. I always drive once on the route I follow before riding on the bike to make sure it is safe.

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              But does the new direction take you through drug infested neighbourhoods ? :P

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              Are you looking for this? Would you consider this a feature? :)

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                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                stupid and dangerous

                That offense would have kicked you out of this site. Just remember that a biker owns this site. :)

                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                I've seen spandex wearing cyclists

                I think, most spandex wearing bikers, are professional or semi-professional and follow the bike safety rules well. I always had issues with the people who ride on the wrong side wearing black clothes after the sun has set. I always drive once on the route I follow before riding on the bike to make sure it is safe.

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                Just for the record, bikers ride Harleys. Cyclists ride bicycles. But yeah, I'll probably have to watch for heavily armed hamsters just the same. :) It's not just the visibility that's the problem. The roads simply aren't built to safely accomodate a car driving 50 and a bike doing 20. In rare instances where bikes have a dedicated small lane off to the side it's fine. However, most lanes have been designed for the width of a car (and shoulders are often not terribly safe for the cyclist). What typically results is a cyclist riding on the right hand side of a lane and blocking traffic behind him, frequently leaving cars no option but to veer into the next lane in order to go around someone who's doing a fraction of the speed that the rest of the traffic is doing. If the car misjudges to the right, the cyclist gets clipped. Not a good day for either party. If the car misjudges to the left, it's a bad day for the car. Either way, it's a dangerous situation caused by misuse of the pavement. Roads are for cars. Trails are for bicycles.

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                • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                  Google Maps now has Bike routes. It gave some interesting route from my home to work (about 15 miles) which is a little shorter (0.9 miles) than my regular route.

                  modified on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 5:03 PM

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                  Is this what the rest of the world would call cycling, or have the local Hell's Angels chapter moved into Google's offices?

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                    Is this what the rest of the world would call cycling, or have the local Hell's Angels chapter moved into Google's offices?

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                    Christopher Duncan
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                    Shhh! You're going to spoil all the fun when these guys walk into a Harley filled bar and announce that they're bikers. :-D

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                      Just for the record, bikers ride Harleys. Cyclists ride bicycles. But yeah, I'll probably have to watch for heavily armed hamsters just the same. :) It's not just the visibility that's the problem. The roads simply aren't built to safely accomodate a car driving 50 and a bike doing 20. In rare instances where bikes have a dedicated small lane off to the side it's fine. However, most lanes have been designed for the width of a car (and shoulders are often not terribly safe for the cyclist). What typically results is a cyclist riding on the right hand side of a lane and blocking traffic behind him, frequently leaving cars no option but to veer into the next lane in order to go around someone who's doing a fraction of the speed that the rest of the traffic is doing. If the car misjudges to the right, the cyclist gets clipped. Not a good day for either party. If the car misjudges to the left, it's a bad day for the car. Either way, it's a dangerous situation caused by misuse of the pavement. Roads are for cars. Trails are for bicycles.

                      Christopher Duncan
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                      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                      Christopher Duncan wrote:

                      bikers ride Harleys

                      Interesting, you are right. Bikers call themselves bikers when they are with other bikers. Cyclists is the right term. :)

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                        Great minds think alike... :-D

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                          Christopher Duncan wrote:

                          bikers ride Harleys

                          Interesting, you are right. Bikers call themselves bikers when they are with other bikers. Cyclists is the right term. :)

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                          Yeah, I offered that in the spirit of public safety. These guys wear t-shirts that say, I'd rather have a sister in a whorehouse than a brother on a Honda. Can you imagine how they'd react to a 10 speed? :-D

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                            Shhh! You're going to spoil all the fun when these guys walk into a Harley filled bar and announce that they're bikers. :-D

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                            Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                            As a matter of fact, this is what happened to my biker cyclist friend whom I was asking about the correct use of term. Here is what he said (pasted from IM conversation): we were heading up to a race and there were signs that said "welcome bikers - free coffee”. it was meant for motorcyclists. little funny to see bunch of guys in spandex on bicycles pull up next a bunch of guys in leather on harley's

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                              As a matter of fact, this is what happened to my biker cyclist friend whom I was asking about the correct use of term. Here is what he said (pasted from IM conversation): we were heading up to a race and there were signs that said "welcome bikers - free coffee”. it was meant for motorcyclists. little funny to see bunch of guys in spandex on bicycles pull up next a bunch of guys in leather on harley's

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                              I would have paid the cover charge to watch that!

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                                I hope it keeps them on the woodland trails and off the city streets. A 50 mph road designed to accomodate high speed motor vehicles is not a place for targets bicycles, regardless of who pays what taxes. It's simply dangerous to both parties. [edit] I'd originally said "stupid and dangerous," which I've altered to remove the former as it wasn't my intention to be insulting. The dangerous aspect I stand by as I've seen spandex wearing cyclists cause countless close calls on roads where they really had no business being. [/edit] [edit2] And I did it before Rama threatened me with the hamsters![/edit2] :-D

                                Christopher Duncan
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                                50 Mph? Bah. The road into town from here is officially 65 Mph and that's just the posted speed. Even so, there are plenty of cyclists on it. I tried it a couple of times, and decided it wasn't worth the risk... ended up cutting through fences, a creek and a junk yard to avoid it last time though, so I can't really blame the folks with decent bicycles for wanting to stay on the pavement. And it's probably not worth pushing for Google to recommend a dirt route with heavy construction interrupting it mid-way...

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                                  50 Mph? Bah. The road into town from here is officially 65 Mph and that's just the posted speed. Even so, there are plenty of cyclists on it. I tried it a couple of times, and decided it wasn't worth the risk... ended up cutting through fences, a creek and a junk yard to avoid it last time though, so I can't really blame the folks with decent bicycles for wanting to stay on the pavement. And it's probably not worth pushing for Google to recommend a dirt route with heavy construction interrupting it mid-way...

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                                  I know what you mean. In my area, the 50 mph roads are easily spotted by signs that say, "Speed Limit 25." The real solution to this is for cities to fund roads that have a dedicated small strip on the right, in addition to the normal width of the lane, that's just for bikes. If they had their own slot I have no doubt they'd stay in it and everyone would be well served. I do admire the people who ride bikes out of a sense of environmental consciousness. I just wish it was coupled with a more practical implementation. Until then, any vehicle who could get their butt kicked by flimsy, fiberglass Corvette (and in a collision I'd probably even lose an argument with a Harley) should just stay on the porch. :)

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                                    Just for the record, bikers ride Harleys. Cyclists ride bicycles. But yeah, I'll probably have to watch for heavily armed hamsters just the same. :) It's not just the visibility that's the problem. The roads simply aren't built to safely accomodate a car driving 50 and a bike doing 20. In rare instances where bikes have a dedicated small lane off to the side it's fine. However, most lanes have been designed for the width of a car (and shoulders are often not terribly safe for the cyclist). What typically results is a cyclist riding on the right hand side of a lane and blocking traffic behind him, frequently leaving cars no option but to veer into the next lane in order to go around someone who's doing a fraction of the speed that the rest of the traffic is doing. If the car misjudges to the right, the cyclist gets clipped. Not a good day for either party. If the car misjudges to the left, it's a bad day for the car. Either way, it's a dangerous situation caused by misuse of the pavement. Roads are for cars. Trails are for bicycles.

                                    Christopher Duncan
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                                    Several fives here; the cyclists riding on suburbia roads where the speed limit is 40-50 are definitely suicidal individuals. It’s not a matter of if it’s a matter of when you will get seriously injured. City, town, park, reservation area even the highways are more save/because of the bigger shoulders/ than the two lane roads.

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                                      Just for the record, bikers ride Harleys. Cyclists ride bicycles. But yeah, I'll probably have to watch for heavily armed hamsters just the same. :) It's not just the visibility that's the problem. The roads simply aren't built to safely accomodate a car driving 50 and a bike doing 20. In rare instances where bikes have a dedicated small lane off to the side it's fine. However, most lanes have been designed for the width of a car (and shoulders are often not terribly safe for the cyclist). What typically results is a cyclist riding on the right hand side of a lane and blocking traffic behind him, frequently leaving cars no option but to veer into the next lane in order to go around someone who's doing a fraction of the speed that the rest of the traffic is doing. If the car misjudges to the right, the cyclist gets clipped. Not a good day for either party. If the car misjudges to the left, it's a bad day for the car. Either way, it's a dangerous situation caused by misuse of the pavement. Roads are for cars. Trails are for bicycles.

                                      Christopher Duncan
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                                      Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                      Either way, it's a dangerous situation caused by misuse of the pavement. Roads are for cars. Trails are for bicycles.

                                      You might find that your local law enforcement see it a little differently. If a car has difficulty getting around a bicycle, it is incumbent on the motorist to wait until he can safely pass. It's called sharing the road, and it's the law. Impatience is no excuse for violating the law and causing injury to yourself, another motorist, or a cyclist, nor does it make it the fault of the cyclist. ;P

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                                        Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                        Either way, it's a dangerous situation caused by misuse of the pavement. Roads are for cars. Trails are for bicycles.

                                        You might find that your local law enforcement see it a little differently. If a car has difficulty getting around a bicycle, it is incumbent on the motorist to wait until he can safely pass. It's called sharing the road, and it's the law. Impatience is no excuse for violating the law and causing injury to yourself, another motorist, or a cyclist, nor does it make it the fault of the cyclist. ;P

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                                        Yeah, that's the argument I hear all the time. Believe it or not, some laws are actually stupid. This is one of them.

                                        LunaticFringe wrote:

                                        If a car has difficulty getting around a bicycle, it is incumbent on the motorist to wait until he can safely pass.

                                        Meanwhile, back in the real world, when a cyclist is holding up a 50 mph road doing 20 during rush hour traffic, his greatest danger is not getting hit by a car, but rather that some yahoo with a shotgun will go Easy Rider on him. Sharing the road is a very, very bad idea, and is much like a mouse sharing a cave with an underfed lion. Perhaps it's just and fair that they should both have shelter from the rain, but there's just no way that it's going to end well.

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                                          I would have paid the cover charge to watch that!

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                                          Funnily, it happened in Canton :)

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