Christian Gruas is a pedophile.
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Wow - a day, at most, and you're back here. What happened to the truth room ? You have two basic issues. One is that you're in a room full of adults, capable of discussing nuanced, intelligent things, and doing so intelligently. No, you have three issues. Apart from being incapable of intelligent thought, you also are a huge fan of conspiracy websites that take a smidge of facts, cover it in hyperbole and hysteria, and then feed it to you, and you swallow it verbatim. Your last issue is that you obsess over me so completely that while you cannot understand a single thing I say to you, you still manage to catalogue and store the weird fantasies that you come up with in your attempts to comprehend what the grown ups are saying. You are a sad and strange little boy. The thing that I find funny, is that you don't see to understand that the only reason people talk to you here, is that they find it so amusing, in a tragic sort of way. I've at least tried to encourage you to get the help that you so plainly and desperately need.
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CG has been clear in his beliefs that child molestation is ok as long as society accepts it. He said he would run his daughter through the naked body scanners at the airport because he has no problem with TSA thugs looking under her clothing. Let's not mention his desire for depopulation, mandatory abortions, sterilizations, and abductions. Lord knows what goes on in his frequent visits to hotel rooms around the world. I'm sure he has purchased a few African sex slaves smuggled in by the UN. He claims to be a Christian but so do those Priest that love young boys.
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wahahahahaha, ok, I tried to stay out of the CSS/CG affair, but with this, well, made my day, calling someone a pedo because he doesn't agrees with your thoughts. Infinite land, pfft, infinite gold, pffft, yes, I have read all your posts now and you have nothing to sustain a good argument with anyone, you base them with incomplete data, this is the size of the available land 510,072,000 sq/km, where's your infinite land?, infinite means that the number I gave wouldn't even exist, so your theories are just plain stupid. :rolleyes: Calling someone a pedo is a very serious thing, so I hope you have real evidence that you can sustain in a court, otherwise, I really hope you end up in jail or paying a large amount of money after Christian sues you Any sympathy I could have for you, telling myself how bad and ugly these guys are is gone, now I just think the same, you're just a kid, that needs professional help and you should get it, seriously
I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!
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Your father should have shot his load down your mothers leg. You are a waste of skin. I wish to meet you face to face, I will remove your neck from beneath your head.
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CG has been clear in his beliefs that child molestation is ok as long as society accepts it. He said he would run his daughter through the naked body scanners at the airport because he has no problem with TSA thugs looking under her clothing. Let's not mention his desire for depopulation, mandatory abortions, sterilizations, and abductions. Lord knows what goes on in his frequent visits to hotel rooms around the world. I'm sure he has purchased a few African sex slaves smuggled in by the UN. He claims to be a Christian but so do those Priest that love young boys.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
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CG has been clear in his beliefs that child molestation is ok as long as society accepts it. He said he would run his daughter through the naked body scanners at the airport because he has no problem with TSA thugs looking under her clothing. Let's not mention his desire for depopulation, mandatory abortions, sterilizations, and abductions. Lord knows what goes on in his frequent visits to hotel rooms around the world. I'm sure he has purchased a few African sex slaves smuggled in by the UN. He claims to be a Christian but so do those Priest that love young boys.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
I didn't think your perceived IQ could get any lower, but it looks like all of that Alex Jones propaganda was propping it up...
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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I'm pretty sure that your statement is tantamount to libel - you've gone beyond free speech or a personal attack and moved directly to an unsubstantiated accusation on a highly visible, public web site. I'd be surprised if CG does anything about it (you're simply not worth the effort) but I'm also sure he could if he was ever so inclined.
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modified on Friday, March 12, 2010 4:25 AM
As someone who has to visit the topic fairly regularly, Christian could probably run him up the pole for this one. And I'm typically on the other end of it. Repeating what someone has said and providing context to what was being discussed and where, so people can point and laugh at people who say really stupid shit, perfectly legal. Misquoting them and claiming they're engaged in illegal activities based on little more than your own delusion, not so much.
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CG has been clear in his beliefs that child molestation is ok as long as society accepts it. He said he would run his daughter through the naked body scanners at the airport because he has no problem with TSA thugs looking under her clothing. Let's not mention his desire for depopulation, mandatory abortions, sterilizations, and abductions. Lord knows what goes on in his frequent visits to hotel rooms around the world. I'm sure he has purchased a few African sex slaves smuggled in by the UN. He claims to be a Christian but so do those Priest that love young boys.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
CG has been clear in his beliefs that child molestation is ok as long as society accepts it.
Not really, you've extrapolated this using false assumptions due to your own (remarkable) bias.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
He said he would run his daughter through the naked body scanners at the airport
No, he said he'd run her through the scanners they actually have, which are no where near what you think they are. As someone with roughly 1/10th of a clue how imaging works I can tell you everything you were claiming to be possible is complete bullshit. My 1/10th is the basic physics, and you fail those pretty hard.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
he has no problem with TSA thugs looking under her clothing.
This was again your delusion, as we and basic physics have disproved.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Let's not mention his desire for depopulation, mandatory abortions, sterilizations, and abductions.
Actually he seems to support the availability and education of how to use birth control. He also acknowledges that should we continue an unsustainable pattern of growth, we're all going to suffer pretty badly(off memory here).
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Lord knows what goes on in his frequent visits to hotel rooms around the world. I'm sure he has purchased a few African sex slaves smuggled in by the UN.
Flat libel, you have no more evidence for than I do for an ancient race of moon men. For either him, or the UN.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
He claims to be a Christian but so do those Priest that love young boys.
Hey, Jesus loves everyone. Tell me that doesn't weird you out a bit if you have such a perverted mind.
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wahahahahaha, ok, I tried to stay out of the CSS/CG affair, but with this, well, made my day, calling someone a pedo because he doesn't agrees with your thoughts. Infinite land, pfft, infinite gold, pffft, yes, I have read all your posts now and you have nothing to sustain a good argument with anyone, you base them with incomplete data, this is the size of the available land 510,072,000 sq/km, where's your infinite land?, infinite means that the number I gave wouldn't even exist, so your theories are just plain stupid. :rolleyes: Calling someone a pedo is a very serious thing, so I hope you have real evidence that you can sustain in a court, otherwise, I really hope you end up in jail or paying a large amount of money after Christian sues you Any sympathy I could have for you, telling myself how bad and ugly these guys are is gone, now I just think the same, you're just a kid, that needs professional help and you should get it, seriously
I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!
Gonzoox wrote:
Infinite land, pfft, infinite gold, pffft
That is CG putting words in my mouth, I've never said that there is infinite land or gold. I said there is enough to sustain us, so we don't need to be forcibly depopulated by an all powerful global government, and use their fiat crud that gives them control over our economy. He is a pedophile for the reasons I stated in the original post.
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Gonzoox wrote:
Infinite land, pfft, infinite gold, pffft
That is CG putting words in my mouth, I've never said that there is infinite land or gold. I said there is enough to sustain us, so we don't need to be forcibly depopulated by an all powerful global government, and use their fiat crud that gives them control over our economy. He is a pedophile for the reasons I stated in the original post.
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Shame on CG for putting the words in your mouth, but let me tell you one thing, the world gold is not the US gold, it belongs to their nations, so there's not enough gold to sustain the US as you state, the US = 9,158,960 sq/km (3,536,294 sq/mi), that's the US, no more, no less, 315,534,716 is the population estimate for 2010, so that makes it 34.45 persons/sq km. So let me understand, you're saying we can overpopulate the country, forget about crops, mountains, rivers, etc... thinking like you think, yes, it's ok, but then, many questions come to my head - What are we going to eat if we don't have land to grow food?, no land for farms means no corn, no wheat, etc, no having the grains, how are we going to feed the cattle? with air? - The pollution levels today are sky high, how are they going to be in 2015? 2020? 2025? are we going to be able to drink clean water at all? or are we going to be depending on filters and chemicals to clean it? - How many more is ok for you to say that we can sustain a decent life before starting to kill each other for resources? we are already doing it for oil. Your theory reminds me of the movie "Soylent Green" go and watch it, try to learn something from there "all powerful global government, and use their fiat crud that gives them control over our economy", have you realized and thought about this at all? or you just repeat a catchy phrase that you read before? do you know what's going to happen if tomorrow, all the companies doing business in the US decide to leave?, forget about how much money they're making or how great the US market is, they just decide to leave, "our economy" as you call it will be gone, China, Germany, the UK, *put name of countries here* control this economy, they create thousands or millions of jobs, pay billions in taxes, I don't remember where I read that foreign companies represent around the 65% of the economy, but I will look for this fact and give it to you, in the meantime you can read about the US economy in Wikipedia, here's the link US Economy the illegal mexicans or latins, knowing how much they're hated, they move this economy too, they do jobs no one else wants to do and they get paid less than what many make for doing less of what they're doing or the same job, they're so important to this economy that now you can find almost everywhere spanish translations, newspapers in spanish, TV channels in spanish, food labels with both languages, gov't forms, etc... do
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CG has been clear in his beliefs that child molestation is ok as long as society accepts it. He said he would run his daughter through the naked body scanners at the airport because he has no problem with TSA thugs looking under her clothing. Let's not mention his desire for depopulation, mandatory abortions, sterilizations, and abductions. Lord knows what goes on in his frequent visits to hotel rooms around the world. I'm sure he has purchased a few African sex slaves smuggled in by the UN. He claims to be a Christian but so do those Priest that love young boys.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
I stay out of the fray mostly
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
CG has been clear in his beliefs that child molestation is ok as long as society accepts it. He said he would run his daughter through the naked body scanners at the airport because he has no problem with TSA thugs looking under her clothing.
is perhaps the most retarded post I have ever encountered on the Net :thumbsdown: I don't know CSS location but in some states making that accusation doesn't require CG to do anything to be prosecuted
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I stay out of the fray mostly
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
CG has been clear in his beliefs that child molestation is ok as long as society accepts it. He said he would run his daughter through the naked body scanners at the airport because he has no problem with TSA thugs looking under her clothing.
is perhaps the most retarded post I have ever encountered on the Net :thumbsdown: I don't know CSS location but in some states making that accusation doesn't require CG to do anything to be prosecuted
He is in Columbus, Ohio. He's publically stated that, then when I've stated it ( in the same forum he has said it ), he has threatened me. I don't really know why.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Shame on CG for putting the words in your mouth, but let me tell you one thing, the world gold is not the US gold, it belongs to their nations, so there's not enough gold to sustain the US as you state, the US = 9,158,960 sq/km (3,536,294 sq/mi), that's the US, no more, no less, 315,534,716 is the population estimate for 2010, so that makes it 34.45 persons/sq km. So let me understand, you're saying we can overpopulate the country, forget about crops, mountains, rivers, etc... thinking like you think, yes, it's ok, but then, many questions come to my head - What are we going to eat if we don't have land to grow food?, no land for farms means no corn, no wheat, etc, no having the grains, how are we going to feed the cattle? with air? - The pollution levels today are sky high, how are they going to be in 2015? 2020? 2025? are we going to be able to drink clean water at all? or are we going to be depending on filters and chemicals to clean it? - How many more is ok for you to say that we can sustain a decent life before starting to kill each other for resources? we are already doing it for oil. Your theory reminds me of the movie "Soylent Green" go and watch it, try to learn something from there "all powerful global government, and use their fiat crud that gives them control over our economy", have you realized and thought about this at all? or you just repeat a catchy phrase that you read before? do you know what's going to happen if tomorrow, all the companies doing business in the US decide to leave?, forget about how much money they're making or how great the US market is, they just decide to leave, "our economy" as you call it will be gone, China, Germany, the UK, *put name of countries here* control this economy, they create thousands or millions of jobs, pay billions in taxes, I don't remember where I read that foreign companies represent around the 65% of the economy, but I will look for this fact and give it to you, in the meantime you can read about the US economy in Wikipedia, here's the link US Economy the illegal mexicans or latins, knowing how much they're hated, they move this economy too, they do jobs no one else wants to do and they get paid less than what many make for doing less of what they're doing or the same job, they're so important to this economy that now you can find almost everywhere spanish translations, newspapers in spanish, TV channels in spanish, food labels with both languages, gov't forms, etc... do
Gonzoox wrote:
so there's not enough gold
Like I keep saying, Silver would be used for small denomination coins, and a silver dime (10 cents) would be worth around 2 dollars in today's dollar. Gold would be used in large denominations. There is still Gold to be mined, it is just hard to find. I bet there is tons of Gold in Africa, they haven't developed enough to do large scale mining like we have.
Gonzoox wrote:
What are we going to eat if we don't have land to grow food?
Here in America, we have enough to eat, we grow most of our food and have plenty of land to support more.
Gonzoox wrote:
The pollution levels today are sky high
I don't know what you consider pollution, but let's get something clear, CO2 is not pollution. I'm for real environmentalism such as keeping water clean and preventing the spread of GMO crops and genetically engineered microbes.
Gonzoox wrote:
How many more is ok for you to say that we can sustain a decent life before starting to kill each other for resources?
I don't know. I see it in the near future after the dollar collapses, but that is due to out of control government and central banks recklessly spending and flooding the economy with fiat currency.
Gonzoox wrote:
we are already doing it for oil.
The same people in government going into countries for opium and oil are the same people that lock down our own resources. They want to create artificial scarcities and control the world's resources for their own benefit. We end up paying them massive amounts of money and they get all the control.
Gonzoox wrote:
our theory reminds me of the movie "Soylent Green" go and watch it
I've seen it, its a good movie. That is not my theory though. My theory is to keep power in check and let the market deal with issues in a decentralized manner. For instance, if their is a real shortage of oil then their will be demand for new technologies, however if the government tries to tax and control we will all suffer and the only thing we will get is corruption and poverty.
Gonzoox wrote:
have you realized and thought about this at all?
Yes, I have thought about it exte
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Gonzoox wrote:
Infinite land, pfft, infinite gold, pffft
That is CG putting words in my mouth, I've never said that there is infinite land or gold. I said there is enough to sustain us, so we don't need to be forcibly depopulated by an all powerful global government, and use their fiat crud that gives them control over our economy. He is a pedophile for the reasons I stated in the original post.
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This[^] is one example of a thread where you indicate that no matter how many people there are, or how much land we farm, or how we treat it, that there won't be any sort of crisis. You say 'I can grow my own food'. I say 'what about people in New York'. You say 'They will buy some land'. We've had many conversations like this, where it's beyond your intellect to consider there may be more people in the city of New York ( for example ) than there are 5 acre lots for people to buy and feed themselves off.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Gonzoox wrote:
so there's not enough gold
Like I keep saying, Silver would be used for small denomination coins, and a silver dime (10 cents) would be worth around 2 dollars in today's dollar. Gold would be used in large denominations. There is still Gold to be mined, it is just hard to find. I bet there is tons of Gold in Africa, they haven't developed enough to do large scale mining like we have.
Gonzoox wrote:
What are we going to eat if we don't have land to grow food?
Here in America, we have enough to eat, we grow most of our food and have plenty of land to support more.
Gonzoox wrote:
The pollution levels today are sky high
I don't know what you consider pollution, but let's get something clear, CO2 is not pollution. I'm for real environmentalism such as keeping water clean and preventing the spread of GMO crops and genetically engineered microbes.
Gonzoox wrote:
How many more is ok for you to say that we can sustain a decent life before starting to kill each other for resources?
I don't know. I see it in the near future after the dollar collapses, but that is due to out of control government and central banks recklessly spending and flooding the economy with fiat currency.
Gonzoox wrote:
we are already doing it for oil.
The same people in government going into countries for opium and oil are the same people that lock down our own resources. They want to create artificial scarcities and control the world's resources for their own benefit. We end up paying them massive amounts of money and they get all the control.
Gonzoox wrote:
our theory reminds me of the movie "Soylent Green" go and watch it
I've seen it, its a good movie. That is not my theory though. My theory is to keep power in check and let the market deal with issues in a decentralized manner. For instance, if their is a real shortage of oil then their will be demand for new technologies, however if the government tries to tax and control we will all suffer and the only thing we will get is corruption and poverty.
Gonzoox wrote:
have you realized and thought about this at all?
Yes, I have thought about it exte
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
. I bet there is tons of Gold in Africa, they haven't developed enough to do large scale mining like we have.
You keep saying that, despite having been provided with links that prove you wrong. This idea is unworkable because there's not enough gold, and what we have, as even you say, is so hard to get that we have to destroy a mountain to get a small quantity of gold.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Here in America, we have enough to eat, we grow most of our food and have plenty of land to support more.
The USA is a net exporter of food only because of subsidies paid to farmers, which help to encourage practices of over production which in turn is destroying the land.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
unimaginable power to a small group of people.
you don't think about things. You just shoe horn any issue into this fantasy of yours.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
People must be paid in proportion to the work they do.
Yet you're upset about inflation. If the person making your Nikes is paid a fair wage ( and I agree, they should be ), do you think Nikes would still cost the same ? the fact is, the 'wealth' of countries like Australia and the USA, is built on this slave labour. Not much has changed in that regard. When people lived in small communities and everything was manufactured locally, people would spend more than 65% of their wage on food, that was what it cost, and things like shoes were something you bought from time to time, not something you had 30 pairs of.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It is not up to somebody else to forcibly handicap another person's reproductive systems or forcibly abort or abduct anther person's child.
No-one here has ever suggested that anyone do that, your bizarre fantasy life aside. However, if I have 20 kids, then they all have the same right to life as the 2 that someone else has. Which creates more competition for resources that are going to become scarce. That's what makes it an interesting question for intelligent people to ponder. And that is why you should not take part, because you're not smart enough to understand what is said, as this thread again proves.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
We used to export most of our good
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He is in Columbus, Ohio. He's publically stated that, then when I've stated it ( in the same forum he has said it ), he has threatened me. I don't really know why.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Yes, it's plain that I could sue him for slander, my problem is that I'd have to prove in court that he's someone who anyone would take seriously ( his being a joke to everyone here undermines the claim of slander ). It may be worth it to force him to take a pysch evaluation, which I'd presume would be part of his defence. I can plainly afford the lawyer, this is actually sounding tempting. To sit in court and hear the defence lawyer go over the proof that his client is mentally ill would be better than winning.....
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
Yes, it's plain that I could sue him for slander,
That may be true, but you've probably undercut your ability to do so successfully by failing to remove this thread. It would be easy to gut an argument that you had been harmed when you had the power to stop it but did not do so. You really should just delete it.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
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Christian Graus wrote:
Yes, it's plain that I could sue him for slander,
That may be true, but you've probably undercut your ability to do so successfully by failing to remove this thread. It would be easy to gut an argument that you had been harmed when you had the power to stop it but did not do so. You really should just delete it.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
Yes, you have a point. I don't want to delete it, because if I do, in his mind, it will prove he got to me, and he hasn't. I just think it's sad, and further evidence of his mental illness.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Yes, you have a point. I don't want to delete it, because if I do, in his mind, it will prove he got to me, and he hasn't. I just think it's sad, and further evidence of his mental illness.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
I don't want to delete it, because if I do, in his mind, it will prove he got to me, and he hasn't
Well, of course he hasn't. There doesn't seem to be any question that this was pretty far over the line, though - I wouldn't let that keep me from deleting it.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
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Exactly what I tell my wife all the time.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
when she catches you stroking?
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when she catches you stroking?
How amusing, a member for 3 years, 20 posts, all in the soapbox/back room. You're not fooling anyone.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.