Stupid monitor tricks? [modified]
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Yeah, found the FM and it says it toggles between modes, but it doesn't appear to do anything. I think it requires long uninstalled and forgotten Acer utilities to function properly. Hmmm. May have to break out the compiler. Thanks!
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Copywriting ServicesI've never seen a laptop that did not offer the functionality, right out of the box. It is how you use a projector for a meeting, they all support that. PS: Make sure to keep all settings constant, except for the ones you want to change; so do an EnumDisplaySettings to get them, change some, then call ChangeDisplaySettings. You probably want a bit in the DeviceFlags (for both displays!). I could offer some P/Invoke prototypes to get you started, however I cannot possibly paste it in the Lounge. :)
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I've never seen a laptop that did not offer the functionality, right out of the box. It is how you use a projector for a meeting, they all support that. PS: Make sure to keep all settings constant, except for the ones you want to change; so do an EnumDisplaySettings to get them, change some, then call ChangeDisplaySettings. You probably want a bit in the DeviceFlags (for both displays!). I could offer some P/Invoke prototypes to get you started, however I cannot possibly paste it in the Lounge. :)
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Actually, this thing shipped with Vista, which I stripped & put on XP. There were a number of crapware utilities, and I suspect that this functionality was a casualty. Oh, well. This was one of those things that would have been cool if it wasn't too much trouble, but at this point I may just stick it in the corner and let it live as a print server or something. I can always RD in to manage the box. Thanks for the help!
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As some of you know, the monitor on my laptop is AFU. Like most laptops, it has a VGA port for a second monitor. However, you have to go to your properties (i.e. right click desktop / properties, etc.) to extend Windows onto it. Since the primary display is toast, I can't see to do this on the laptop. Logged onto the machine from a desktop via Remote Desktop, but of course you can't access the laptop native display stuff from a RD session. Anyone know of the registry settings or other such hacks that I can use to force the Windows desktop onto the secondary monitor? Bonus points if you know how to also make it the primary display. In case you're wondering, I'm planning on yanking the monitor out, plugging in a touch screen monitor to the cpu / keyboard section, and mounting both in a wall for a quick & dirty touch screen wall interface. May as well get some use out of it, eh?
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Have you tried using VNC instead of RD?
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As some of you know, the monitor on my laptop is AFU. Like most laptops, it has a VGA port for a second monitor. However, you have to go to your properties (i.e. right click desktop / properties, etc.) to extend Windows onto it. Since the primary display is toast, I can't see to do this on the laptop. Logged onto the machine from a desktop via Remote Desktop, but of course you can't access the laptop native display stuff from a RD session. Anyone know of the registry settings or other such hacks that I can use to force the Windows desktop onto the secondary monitor? Bonus points if you know how to also make it the primary display. In case you're wondering, I'm planning on yanking the monitor out, plugging in a touch screen monitor to the cpu / keyboard section, and mounting both in a wall for a quick & dirty touch screen wall interface. May as well get some use out of it, eh?
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Copywriting Servicesmodified on Friday, March 19, 2010 4:21 PM
If you can get to a remote desktop, can you use that to install a "direct screen control" program (PCAnywhere, VNC etc), and use that to change the monitor config?
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Have you tried using VNC instead of RD?
Reread the post. Remoting in works fine. What the OP would like to do is not have to remote in.
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Have you tried using VNC instead of RD?
Or were you saying VNC can be used to change the monitor configuration (whereas you cannot do that with RD)?
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Yep, that lights up the secondary monitor. Thanks! However, everything launches on the primary monitor, so now I need to find a way to flip them. Seem to recall I couldn't do that before the monitor died, so I'm sure it's going to be a hack of some sort.
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Copywriting ServicesYou should be able to right-click on the secondary monitor, bring up the display properties, and reverse the monitors.
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You should be able to right-click on the secondary monitor, bring up the display properties, and reverse the monitors.
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Fold With Us![^]I completely agree, I should be able to do that! Unfortunatlely, the properties dialog box opens on the primary monitor. Even were it otherwise, I recall from when it was working that the UI would not allow the reversal, or the use of the external as the primary, which I always thought was cheesy. I dunno, maybe it worked properly when it had Vista and the Acer crapware installed. I'm getting a vision of a rather high tech doorstop...
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Or were you saying VNC can be used to change the monitor configuration (whereas you cannot do that with RD)?
Yeah, this one is correct :)
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Create or download an application that emails you screenshots when they are taken (and maybe automatically takes them every few seconds). Remote into the computer and toss the app onto your laptop and start running it. Then, get to your screen (that you can't see) normally... use the emailed screenshots (which you will view on another computer) to position your mouse and navigate through menus so that you can eventually work with your second display.
:doh: :)
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As some of you know, the monitor on my laptop is AFU. Like most laptops, it has a VGA port for a second monitor. However, you have to go to your properties (i.e. right click desktop / properties, etc.) to extend Windows onto it. Since the primary display is toast, I can't see to do this on the laptop. Logged onto the machine from a desktop via Remote Desktop, but of course you can't access the laptop native display stuff from a RD session. Anyone know of the registry settings or other such hacks that I can use to force the Windows desktop onto the secondary monitor? Bonus points if you know how to also make it the primary display. In case you're wondering, I'm planning on yanking the monitor out, plugging in a touch screen monitor to the cpu / keyboard section, and mounting both in a wall for a quick & dirty touch screen wall interface. May as well get some use out of it, eh?
Christopher Duncan
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Close the lid to see if it'll automatically display on the external monitor. If so, plug in a keyboard and mouse and continue on as normal.
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:doh: :)
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I completely agree, I should be able to do that! Unfortunatlely, the properties dialog box opens on the primary monitor. Even were it otherwise, I recall from when it was working that the UI would not allow the reversal, or the use of the external as the primary, which I always thought was cheesy. I dunno, maybe it worked properly when it had Vista and the Acer crapware installed. I'm getting a vision of a rather high tech doorstop...
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Copywriting ServicesI haven't done this in a while, but I recall that Windows can maintain several hardware profiles. I believe that you can select one as the default, as well. Check the System applet in Control Panel, pick the current profile, and disable the primary display. IIRC, it should then select the second display as default on startup. You may have to disable the first display in Device Manager first, then save that configuration as a new profile. As I said, it's been a long time... I'd test it myself, but have only one monitor for two computers. :sigh:
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I haven't done this in a while, but I recall that Windows can maintain several hardware profiles. I believe that you can select one as the default, as well. Check the System applet in Control Panel, pick the current profile, and disable the primary display. IIRC, it should then select the second display as default on startup. You may have to disable the first display in Device Manager first, then save that configuration as a new profile. As I said, it's been a long time... I'd test it myself, but have only one monitor for two computers. :sigh:
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two computers
Yes, how very sad that you only have two computers. ;P
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Roger Wright wrote:
two computers
Yes, how very sad that you only have two computers. ;P
Tragic, isn't it? One old server I built from scrounged parts about 4 years ago, and one used Dell I picked up for $200. The server has a fan that sounds like the inside of a commercial walk-in beer fridge, and the client has a nearly full 40 GB drive with no slots for another. Maybe I should bolt the cases together and call it a dual-core PC.
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I completely agree, I should be able to do that! Unfortunatlely, the properties dialog box opens on the primary monitor. Even were it otherwise, I recall from when it was working that the UI would not allow the reversal, or the use of the external as the primary, which I always thought was cheesy. I dunno, maybe it worked properly when it had Vista and the Acer crapware installed. I'm getting a vision of a rather high tech doorstop...
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Copywriting ServicesChristopher Duncan wrote:
Unfortunatlely, the properties dialog box opens on the primary monitor
Then move it over. Alt+Space, M, then move the window with the arrow keys. Actually once you've starting moving it using any arrow key, the window will follow the mouse until you click (or press Enter). I often have to use this trick to get at programs that remembered their last location (on my secondary monitor) but fail to check that the second monitor isn't connected at the moment.
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As some of you know, the monitor on my laptop is AFU. Like most laptops, it has a VGA port for a second monitor. However, you have to go to your properties (i.e. right click desktop / properties, etc.) to extend Windows onto it. Since the primary display is toast, I can't see to do this on the laptop. Logged onto the machine from a desktop via Remote Desktop, but of course you can't access the laptop native display stuff from a RD session. Anyone know of the registry settings or other such hacks that I can use to force the Windows desktop onto the secondary monitor? Bonus points if you know how to also make it the primary display. In case you're wondering, I'm planning on yanking the monitor out, plugging in a touch screen monitor to the cpu / keyboard section, and mounting both in a wall for a quick & dirty touch screen wall interface. May as well get some use out of it, eh?
Christopher Duncan
www.PracticalUSA.com
Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
Copywriting Servicesmodified on Friday, March 19, 2010 4:21 PM
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As some of you know, the monitor on my laptop is AFU. Like most laptops, it has a VGA port for a second monitor. However, you have to go to your properties (i.e. right click desktop / properties, etc.) to extend Windows onto it. Since the primary display is toast, I can't see to do this on the laptop. Logged onto the machine from a desktop via Remote Desktop, but of course you can't access the laptop native display stuff from a RD session. Anyone know of the registry settings or other such hacks that I can use to force the Windows desktop onto the secondary monitor? Bonus points if you know how to also make it the primary display. In case you're wondering, I'm planning on yanking the monitor out, plugging in a touch screen monitor to the cpu / keyboard section, and mounting both in a wall for a quick & dirty touch screen wall interface. May as well get some use out of it, eh?
Christopher Duncan
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Copywriting Servicesmodified on Friday, March 19, 2010 4:21 PM
All laptops I've ever seen have a function somewhere on the keyboard to switch to an external display. Sometimes these are multi-state, so wait a few seconds to see if the monitor comes alive before giving up. That saved my butt once when my laptop's LCD bit the dust. Another thing you might try, if you haven't already, is plug the monitor in before turning on the laptop, as often, it'll recognize an external monitor and simply use that as the primary display. Marc
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I think my laptop does that. Based on the images on the keys, looks like Function+F5. Look at your keys... see what story they tell (any show multiple monitors or anything like that?).
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...looks like Function+F5.
This is the key combination for my Toshiba laptop. Click the F5 key 1-4 times to cycle through the different combinations, one of which is to make the secondary monitor the primary display.
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