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    The process: 0) Move from Vista/32 to Weven/64 (this turned out to be the easiest part of the whole thing) 1) Media Portal 1.0 to 1.1.0.0 RC1 (I know, I know - release candidates aren't any better than betas) - the hardest part was getting the necessary required and additional software assembled in one spot. 2) Moving Pictures Plug-in 1.04 RC (again, I know...) 3) My TV Series Plug-in It took about 45 minutes to change to the new OS, and the rest has taken about 12 hours all totaled, and I STILL don't have Moving Pictures working 100% yet. Part of the problem here is that there really isn't any decent documentation available to help you along. I spent a lot of time googling and browsing the MediaPortal forums trying to find answers. What a nightmare...

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      The process: 0) Move from Vista/32 to Weven/64 (this turned out to be the easiest part of the whole thing) 1) Media Portal 1.0 to 1.1.0.0 RC1 (I know, I know - release candidates aren't any better than betas) - the hardest part was getting the necessary required and additional software assembled in one spot. 2) Moving Pictures Plug-in 1.04 RC (again, I know...) 3) My TV Series Plug-in It took about 45 minutes to change to the new OS, and the rest has taken about 12 hours all totaled, and I STILL don't have Moving Pictures working 100% yet. Part of the problem here is that there really isn't any decent documentation available to help you along. I spent a lot of time googling and browsing the MediaPortal forums trying to find answers. What a nightmare...

      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

      1. Media Portal 1.0 to 1.1.0.0 RC1 (I know, I know - release candidates aren't any better than betas) - the hardest part was getting the necessary required and additional software assembled in one spot.2) Moving Pictures Plug-in 1.04 RC (again, I know...)

      Since two of the products are only release candidates you obviously are an early adopter. Life on the bleeding edge has drawbacks as well as triumphs.

      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

      Part of the problem here is that there really isn't any decent documentation available to help you along. I spent a lot of time googling and browsing the MediaPortal forums trying to find answers.What a nightmare...

      With two of the products not even released yet what did you expect. :rolleyes:

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        The process: 0) Move from Vista/32 to Weven/64 (this turned out to be the easiest part of the whole thing) 1) Media Portal 1.0 to 1.1.0.0 RC1 (I know, I know - release candidates aren't any better than betas) - the hardest part was getting the necessary required and additional software assembled in one spot. 2) Moving Pictures Plug-in 1.04 RC (again, I know...) 3) My TV Series Plug-in It took about 45 minutes to change to the new OS, and the rest has taken about 12 hours all totaled, and I STILL don't have Moving Pictures working 100% yet. Part of the problem here is that there really isn't any decent documentation available to help you along. I spent a lot of time googling and browsing the MediaPortal forums trying to find answers. What a nightmare...

        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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        I've just thrown a faulty Popcorn Hour in the bin (a C-200). Front panel - LED colours never right, just discovered it's a faulty PSU (!) Front panel - LCD never worked, god knows why. Main board - did a firmware update and the damn thing locked up when rebooting. How on earth did it manage that?? I'm not the only one this has happened to. I've found out they have a total return of two percent. How do you manage this on something with less parts that a large graphics card? Shipping back for repair - they don't sort things out with the shippers so when things come back you get done for duty plus 'admin fees' and are expected to chase up customs yourself to try and claw it back, except you can't get back the $20-30 'admin fee' from the shipper for paying the duty. Oh, it also turns out that the gigabit Ethernet interface, if you run it at gigabit causes an overflow which makes the whole thing lock up. It would have been better if they'd kept to the 100Mbit interface built into the chip. I'll stick with the older one (A-110) that works.

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          The process: 0) Move from Vista/32 to Weven/64 (this turned out to be the easiest part of the whole thing) 1) Media Portal 1.0 to 1.1.0.0 RC1 (I know, I know - release candidates aren't any better than betas) - the hardest part was getting the necessary required and additional software assembled in one spot. 2) Moving Pictures Plug-in 1.04 RC (again, I know...) 3) My TV Series Plug-in It took about 45 minutes to change to the new OS, and the rest has taken about 12 hours all totaled, and I STILL don't have Moving Pictures working 100% yet. Part of the problem here is that there really isn't any decent documentation available to help you along. I spent a lot of time googling and browsing the MediaPortal forums trying to find answers. What a nightmare...

          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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          Here's the part I don't understand. Why is playing video from a computer such complete freakin' rocket science? I mean, honestly, is it really that hard? Open a file, deal with the codec, send to the screen? User hits a button to rewind / ff / chapter / etc., do a seek on the file position? This is a really difficult kind of programming that nobody can seem to get right. Clearly, I must be missing something here. Do you have to calculate lunar tides or something? Hell, you probably could have written your own in the time it takes you to debug the stuff that's out there. And you don't even get to bill for it!

          Christopher Duncan
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            Here's the part I don't understand. Why is playing video from a computer such complete freakin' rocket science? I mean, honestly, is it really that hard? Open a file, deal with the codec, send to the screen? User hits a button to rewind / ff / chapter / etc., do a seek on the file position? This is a really difficult kind of programming that nobody can seem to get right. Clearly, I must be missing something here. Do you have to calculate lunar tides or something? Hell, you probably could have written your own in the time it takes you to debug the stuff that's out there. And you don't even get to bill for it!

            Christopher Duncan
            www.PracticalUSA.com
            Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
            Copywriting Services

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            Garth J Lancaster
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            Christopher Duncan wrote:

            calculate lunar tides

            now that really IS rocket science - its not as easy as people think - plus there's a lot of historical data analysis needed ... 'g'

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              Here's the part I don't understand. Why is playing video from a computer such complete freakin' rocket science? I mean, honestly, is it really that hard? Open a file, deal with the codec, send to the screen? User hits a button to rewind / ff / chapter / etc., do a seek on the file position? This is a really difficult kind of programming that nobody can seem to get right. Clearly, I must be missing something here. Do you have to calculate lunar tides or something? Hell, you probably could have written your own in the time it takes you to debug the stuff that's out there. And you don't even get to bill for it!

              Christopher Duncan
              www.PracticalUSA.com
              Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
              Copywriting Services

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              Christopher Duncan wrote:

              Why is playing video from a computer such complete freakin' rocket science?

              Playing the video is easy. Putting a pretty (and reliable) UI on it is the kicker. You should know that - you're a programmer. :)

              Christopher Duncan wrote:

              Do you have to calculate lunar tides or something?

              Only if I turn on the Lunar Tides option in the plug-in. :)

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                Why is playing video from a computer such complete freakin' rocket science?

                Playing the video is easy. Putting a pretty (and reliable) UI on it is the kicker. You should know that - you're a programmer. :)

                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                Do you have to calculate lunar tides or something?

                Only if I turn on the Lunar Tides option in the plug-in. :)

                .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                Playing the video is easy. Putting a pretty (and reliable) UI on it is the kicker. You should know that - you're a programmer.

                Clearly, you've never seen my UI work. There's a reason they keep me away from the paint brushes around here. :)

                Christopher Duncan
                www.PracticalUSA.com
                Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes
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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  The process: 0) Move from Vista/32 to Weven/64 (this turned out to be the easiest part of the whole thing) 1) Media Portal 1.0 to 1.1.0.0 RC1 (I know, I know - release candidates aren't any better than betas) - the hardest part was getting the necessary required and additional software assembled in one spot. 2) Moving Pictures Plug-in 1.04 RC (again, I know...) 3) My TV Series Plug-in It took about 45 minutes to change to the new OS, and the rest has taken about 12 hours all totaled, and I STILL don't have Moving Pictures working 100% yet. Part of the problem here is that there really isn't any decent documentation available to help you along. I spent a lot of time googling and browsing the MediaPortal forums trying to find answers. What a nightmare...

                  .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                  -----
                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  Part of the problem here is that there really isn't any decent documentation available to help you along.

                  Real men don't need documentation.

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                    Christopher Duncan wrote:

                    calculate lunar tides

                    now that really IS rocket science - its not as easy as people think - plus there's a lot of historical data analysis needed ... 'g'

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                    Garth J Lancaster wrote:

                    Christopher Duncan wrote: calculate lunar tides now that really IS rocket science - its not as easy as people think - plus there's a lot of historical data analysis needed ...

                    That depends which tides you're calculating. The ones the moon induces in the Ocean, or the ones the earth induces in the moon's rock. Because rock doesn't slosh around the latter are relatively simple to compute. :cool:

                    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      The process: 0) Move from Vista/32 to Weven/64 (this turned out to be the easiest part of the whole thing) 1) Media Portal 1.0 to 1.1.0.0 RC1 (I know, I know - release candidates aren't any better than betas) - the hardest part was getting the necessary required and additional software assembled in one spot. 2) Moving Pictures Plug-in 1.04 RC (again, I know...) 3) My TV Series Plug-in It took about 45 minutes to change to the new OS, and the rest has taken about 12 hours all totaled, and I STILL don't have Moving Pictures working 100% yet. Part of the problem here is that there really isn't any decent documentation available to help you along. I spent a lot of time googling and browsing the MediaPortal forums trying to find answers. What a nightmare...

                      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                      I find lack of documentation to be a problem across the board when it comes to most things in the HTPC domain. I got into it a couple (three or four) years ago and at that time Media Portal wasn't even 1.0, although I did try it... so I ponied up for SageTV. Yeah... I know, Java. I was just looking for something that worked. ;) To this day I'm still running it with minimal issues. Upgrades have even been relatively pain free. Although, as with anything HTPC related, I do not enjoy the task ahead when it comes time to upgrade.

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                        Garth J Lancaster wrote:

                        Christopher Duncan wrote: calculate lunar tides now that really IS rocket science - its not as easy as people think - plus there's a lot of historical data analysis needed ...

                        That depends which tides you're calculating. The ones the moon induces in the Ocean, or the ones the earth induces in the moon's rock. Because rock doesn't slosh around the latter are relatively simple to compute. :cool:

                        3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                        Garth J Lancaster
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                        I'll have to take your word on it Dan - I was told in Uni it was a 3 bodied equation (Earth, Sun, Moon), (obviously depends on what lat/long you're at), and needed 'local history' If you can point me at a reference/code I'd be chuffed !!! thanks for the info though - one of these years (aka when I get free time) I might go back and look at it cheers 'g'

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