Health Care Reform (Summarized)
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If you replace Republicans with 'Fox News' it's dead on. Not sure about all republicans, but I'm rather sure fox actually used all of the phrases attributed to the republicans.
Distind wrote:
If you replace Republicans with 'Fox News' it's dead on.
Does anyone actually believe anything they see on Fox News? I mean, they're known for being pretty much THE most sensationalized news source out there...
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Distind wrote:
If you replace Republicans with 'Fox News' it's dead on.
Does anyone actually believe anything they see on Fox News? I mean, they're known for being pretty much THE most sensationalized news source out there...
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True... They're all biased, one way or another. I try to get my news from aggregation sites, and if I think the issue is actually important, I try to find it on several different news sites... Can't get all of your information from one source, but as long as the sources are biased differently, you can just add it all up.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
True... They're all biased, one way or another. I try to get my news from aggregation sites, and if I think the issue is actually important, I try to find it on several different news sites... Can't get all of your information from one source, but as long as the sources are biased differently, you can just add it all up.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)I understand your thoughts, and it's pretty logical, however I don't entirely agree. Usually when it comes to personal freedom, you must dive into sites that are not mainstream, along with the mainstream, to get a better picture of what the situation really is. CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, these are "liberal" mainstreams, while you have Fox as the sole "conservative" mainstream. But these really add up to "progressive" media sources. Then, you have the more freedom-based news sources, the underground sources, independent news. You never hear of those, really, and they're downplayed for the fact that they are not mainstream. Mix these all together, and you really do have a non-biased outlook and can draw conclusions for yourself.
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True... They're all biased, one way or another. I try to get my news from aggregation sites, and if I think the issue is actually important, I try to find it on several different news sites... Can't get all of your information from one source, but as long as the sources are biased differently, you can just add it all up.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
but as long as the sources are biased differently
In the 1950s/60s I listened to: Radio Moscow, Voice of America, and the BBC on me tranny. :)
Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.
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I'm not going to speak for or against the accuracy of this, but I found it in a Slashdot comment, and got a bit of a chuckle out of it... The guy who posted it claims he stole it from Digg, so it's probably complete garbage... Still kinda funny...
Democrats: "We need health care reform" Republicans: "Liberal fascists! Give us a majority and we'll do it better" Democrats: "Done, you have majority of both houses" 12 years later, health care is irrefutably worse in every respect for every single person in the United States Democrats: "We need health care reform" Republicans: "Liberal fascists! Americans are tired of partisan politics!" Democrats: "OK, let's compromise" Republicans: "OK, get rid of half your ideas" Democrats: "Done" Republicans: "Too liberal, get rid of half your ideas" Democrats: "Done" Republicans: "Too liberal, get rid of half your ideas" Democrats: "Done" Republicans: "Too liberal, get rid of half your ideas" Democrats: "Done" Republicans: "Too liberal, get rid of half your ideas" Democrats: "Done. Time to end debate" Republicans: "Too liberal, we need more debate, we will filibuster to prevent you from voting" Democrats: "OK, we'll vote--sorry guys, debate is ended. It's time to vote on the bill" Republicans: "Too liberal, we vote no" Democrats: "OK, it passed anyway--sorry guys." One month later Republicans: "Wait--wait, OK, we have less of a minority now so we can filibuster forever." Democrats: "Sorry, the bill already passed, we need it to pass the House now" Republicans: "But we have enough to filibuster" Democrats: "Sorry, the bill already passed, we need it to pass the House now" Republicans: "Liberal fascists! You haven't listened to our ideas! You've shut us out of this whole process!" Democrats: "Sorry, show us your proposal" Republicans: "Smaller government" Democrats: "That's not very specific" Republicans: "OK, here's our detailed proposal--It's our common-sense ideas we spent 12 years not enacting" Democrats: "OK, we'll add a bunch more of your ideas" Republicans: "Liberal fascists! You included all these back-room deals" Democrats: "OK, we'll get rid of the back-room deals" Republicans: "Liberal fascists! You're using obscure procedural tricks to eliminate the back-room deals!" Democrats: "No, we're using reconciliation, which both parties have used dozens of times for much larger bills" Republicans: "Liberal fascists! You're pressuring Congressmen to vote for your bill! Scandal!" Democrats: "It's called 'whipping', it's
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
but as long as the sources are biased differently
In the 1950s/60s I listened to: Radio Moscow, Voice of America, and the BBC on me tranny. :)
Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.
Bob Emmett wrote:
and the BBC on me tranny.
Wow... That's one word that's gone through a SERIOUS definition change...
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
I understand your thoughts, and it's pretty logical, however I don't entirely agree. Usually when it comes to personal freedom, you must dive into sites that are not mainstream, along with the mainstream, to get a better picture of what the situation really is. CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, these are "liberal" mainstreams, while you have Fox as the sole "conservative" mainstream. But these really add up to "progressive" media sources. Then, you have the more freedom-based news sources, the underground sources, independent news. You never hear of those, really, and they're downplayed for the fact that they are not mainstream. Mix these all together, and you really do have a non-biased outlook and can draw conclusions for yourself.
I hope you're not suggesting sites like Infowars and Prisonplanet, because even if you added up every mainstream news source in the country, you wouldn't equal half of the spin Alex Jones applies. Lately, though, I've gotten kind of sick of most mainstream news... I read Slashdot.org for the geek stuff and the occasional politics (The comments are more telling than the articles), and Gothamist.com for more local stuff.
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You can sum up the health care plan much faster with this: Artist Depiction[^]
*grumbles*... Stupid corporate firewall, not letting me look at flickr...
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Bob Emmett wrote:
and the BBC on me tranny.
Wow... That's one word that's gone through a SERIOUS definition change...
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
Bob Emmett wrote:
and the BBC on me tranny.
Wow... That's one word that's gone through a SERIOUS definition change...
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
Bob Emmett wrote: and the BBC on me tranny. Wow... That's one word that's gone through a SERIOUS definition change...
Great. Now I'm picturing an old wartime Britain living room with Eddie Izzard perched on a sidetable, announcing the news.
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TV is not what it used to be, either. :)
Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.
Now that statement is at least a quadruple entendre :)
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
I hope you're not suggesting sites like Infowars and Prisonplanet, because even if you added up every mainstream news source in the country, you wouldn't equal half of the spin Alex Jones applies. Lately, though, I've gotten kind of sick of most mainstream news... I read Slashdot.org for the geek stuff and the occasional politics (The comments are more telling than the articles), and Gothamist.com for more local stuff.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)No, I don't. I haven't been to that site for at least a year. (Because it's really just the same site.) I'm talking about real independent media. therealnews.com democracynow.org npr (it's not bad) but there's a lot more than that, but those are just suggestions. shows like Stossel are definitely libertarian. Glenn Beck is a joke, don't bother with him. lol But then there's Freedom Watch, hosted by the Judge. yes, it's Fox, but it's libertarian, not neo-con. Same with Stossel.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Bob Emmett wrote: and the BBC on me tranny. Wow... That's one word that's gone through a SERIOUS definition change...
Great. Now I'm picturing an old wartime Britain living room with Eddie Izzard perched on a sidetable, announcing the news.
Now THAT would be good entertainment! :) I saw him live at Madison Square Garden a couple months ago... Funny guy... He does drag out the jokes a bit past the "Ok, we get it, move along now" point, though... I think they cut those parts out for his TV specials.
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No, I don't. I haven't been to that site for at least a year. (Because it's really just the same site.) I'm talking about real independent media. therealnews.com democracynow.org npr (it's not bad) but there's a lot more than that, but those are just suggestions. shows like Stossel are definitely libertarian. Glenn Beck is a joke, don't bother with him. lol But then there's Freedom Watch, hosted by the Judge. yes, it's Fox, but it's libertarian, not neo-con. Same with Stossel.
Heh, just tried to hit the first one, and got blocked by the filter for "Streaming Media"... The second one looks interesting, though the bias is pretty obvious. The only "news" I watch on TV, though, is when I have Comedy Central going in the background, and Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert come on :)
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
No, I don't. I haven't been to that site for at least a year. (Because it's really just the same site.) I'm talking about real independent media. therealnews.com democracynow.org npr (it's not bad) but there's a lot more than that, but those are just suggestions. shows like Stossel are definitely libertarian. Glenn Beck is a joke, don't bother with him. lol But then there's Freedom Watch, hosted by the Judge. yes, it's Fox, but it's libertarian, not neo-con. Same with Stossel.
:rolleyes: Those are raging marxist liberal pro-establishment statist sites. Seriously...
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3 of them got medical aid before death, JFK was a little too late, what with his brain being blown all over Jackie.
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His brain got blown out the right side. Jackie was on his left. Lincoln got some really good health care. The Surgeon General went sticking a probe into his brain looking for the bullet. Ended up pithing him. It was not state of the art at the time. Probably better all around, as opposed to have a mentally damaged ex-president around. See what a problem Carter has been?
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Distind wrote:
If you replace Republicans with 'Fox News' it's dead on.
Does anyone actually believe anything they see on Fox News? I mean, they're known for being pretty much THE most sensationalized news source out there...
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
Ian Shlasko wrote:
Bob Emmett wrote: and the BBC on me tranny. Wow... That's one word that's gone through a SERIOUS definition change...
Great. Now I'm picturing an old wartime Britain living room with Eddie Izzard perched on a sidetable, announcing the news.
Go post something random in the lounge so I can give you a 5.
