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  • J josda1000

    I understand your thoughts, and it's pretty logical, however I don't entirely agree. Usually when it comes to personal freedom, you must dive into sites that are not mainstream, along with the mainstream, to get a better picture of what the situation really is. CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, these are "liberal" mainstreams, while you have Fox as the sole "conservative" mainstream. But these really add up to "progressive" media sources. Then, you have the more freedom-based news sources, the underground sources, independent news. You never hear of those, really, and they're downplayed for the fact that they are not mainstream. Mix these all together, and you really do have a non-biased outlook and can draw conclusions for yourself.

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    Ian Shlasko
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    I hope you're not suggesting sites like Infowars and Prisonplanet, because even if you added up every mainstream news source in the country, you wouldn't equal half of the spin Alex Jones applies. Lately, though, I've gotten kind of sick of most mainstream news... I read Slashdot.org for the geek stuff and the occasional politics (The comments are more telling than the articles), and Gothamist.com for more local stuff.

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      You can sum up the health care plan much faster with this: Artist Depiction[^]

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      Ian Shlasko
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      *grumbles*... Stupid corporate firewall, not letting me look at flickr...

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      • I Ian Shlasko

        Bob Emmett wrote:

        and the BBC on me tranny.

        Wow... That's one word that's gone through a SERIOUS definition change...

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        JHizzle
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        Ian Shlasko wrote:

        Bob Emmett wrote: and the BBC on me tranny. Wow... That's one word that's gone through a SERIOUS definition change...

        Great. Now I'm picturing an old wartime Britain living room with Eddie Izzard perched on a sidetable, announcing the news.

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        • I Ian Shlasko

          Bob Emmett wrote:

          and the BBC on me tranny.

          Wow... That's one word that's gone through a SERIOUS definition change...

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          Lost User
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          TV is not what it used to be, either. :)

          Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.

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            TV is not what it used to be, either. :)

            Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.

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            Now that statement is at least a quadruple entendre :)

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            • I Ian Shlasko

              I hope you're not suggesting sites like Infowars and Prisonplanet, because even if you added up every mainstream news source in the country, you wouldn't equal half of the spin Alex Jones applies. Lately, though, I've gotten kind of sick of most mainstream news... I read Slashdot.org for the geek stuff and the occasional politics (The comments are more telling than the articles), and Gothamist.com for more local stuff.

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              josda1000
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              No, I don't. I haven't been to that site for at least a year. (Because it's really just the same site.) I'm talking about real independent media. therealnews.com democracynow.org npr (it's not bad) but there's a lot more than that, but those are just suggestions. shows like Stossel are definitely libertarian. Glenn Beck is a joke, don't bother with him. lol But then there's Freedom Watch, hosted by the Judge. yes, it's Fox, but it's libertarian, not neo-con. Same with Stossel.

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                Ian Shlasko wrote:

                Bob Emmett wrote: and the BBC on me tranny. Wow... That's one word that's gone through a SERIOUS definition change...

                Great. Now I'm picturing an old wartime Britain living room with Eddie Izzard perched on a sidetable, announcing the news.

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                Now THAT would be good entertainment! :) I saw him live at Madison Square Garden a couple months ago... Funny guy... He does drag out the jokes a bit past the "Ok, we get it, move along now" point, though... I think they cut those parts out for his TV specials.

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                • J josda1000

                  No, I don't. I haven't been to that site for at least a year. (Because it's really just the same site.) I'm talking about real independent media. therealnews.com democracynow.org npr (it's not bad) but there's a lot more than that, but those are just suggestions. shows like Stossel are definitely libertarian. Glenn Beck is a joke, don't bother with him. lol But then there's Freedom Watch, hosted by the Judge. yes, it's Fox, but it's libertarian, not neo-con. Same with Stossel.

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                  Heh, just tried to hit the first one, and got blocked by the filter for "Streaming Media"... The second one looks interesting, though the bias is pretty obvious. The only "news" I watch on TV, though, is when I have Comedy Central going in the background, and Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert come on :)

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                  • J josda1000

                    No, I don't. I haven't been to that site for at least a year. (Because it's really just the same site.) I'm talking about real independent media. therealnews.com democracynow.org npr (it's not bad) but there's a lot more than that, but those are just suggestions. shows like Stossel are definitely libertarian. Glenn Beck is a joke, don't bother with him. lol But then there's Freedom Watch, hosted by the Judge. yes, it's Fox, but it's libertarian, not neo-con. Same with Stossel.

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                    :rolleyes: Those are raging marxist liberal pro-establishment statist sites. Seriously...

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                    • D Dalek Dave

                      3 of them got medical aid before death, JFK was a little too late, what with his brain being blown all over Jackie.

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                      His brain got blown out the right side. Jackie was on his left. Lincoln got some really good health care. The Surgeon General went sticking a probe into his brain looking for the bullet. Ended up pithing him. It was not state of the art at the time. Probably better all around, as opposed to have a mentally damaged ex-president around. See what a problem Carter has been?

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                      • I Ian Shlasko

                        Distind wrote:

                        If you replace Republicans with 'Fox News' it's dead on.

                        Does anyone actually believe anything they see on Fox News? I mean, they're known for being pretty much THE most sensationalized news source out there...

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                        Other then MSDN?

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                        • J JHizzle

                          Ian Shlasko wrote:

                          Bob Emmett wrote: and the BBC on me tranny. Wow... That's one word that's gone through a SERIOUS definition change...

                          Great. Now I'm picturing an old wartime Britain living room with Eddie Izzard perched on a sidetable, announcing the news.

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                          ragnaroknrol
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                          Go post something random in the lounge so I can give you a 5.

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