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    Movie and book, not seen or heard of.

    Christian Graus wrote:

    I get ill every time I am in the US, and even eating at good restaurants, I find I need to go to the toilet 10 times a day instead of once.

    It may not entirely be the foodstuffs you're eating. It could also be the effects of drinking water, or consuming processed foodstuffs that uses the "local water", that has a small difference in its chemical and environmental make-up, as well as its biological content, that you are used to in Oz. Perhaps?

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    Richard A. Abbott wrote:

    It may not entirely be the foodstuffs you're eating. It could also be the effects of drinking water, or consuming processed foodstuffs that uses the "local water", that has a small difference in its chemical and environmental make-up, as well as its biological content, that you are used to in Oz.

    I am definitely not accustomed to a diet that is close to 100% corn. But yes, the water may have an impact, I agree.

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      It has been said before, but if you knew what you were eating, you wouldn't eat it!

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      Christian Graus
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      *grin* well, I am happy to eat much of it, because I know exactly what it is. It's kind of sad that we would accept that such a thing is probably true though, it was not in the past.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        Has anyone seen this movie ? I am reading the book. I'd love to get some info on how bad the food industry is in Australia, compared to the USA, where it's plainly shot to hell. I've always known that. I get ill every time I am in the US, and even eating at good restaurants, I find I need to go to the toilet 10 times a day instead of once. I've been in to growing our own organic food for years, but I've never really read on how bad the industrial system is before.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        RichardM1
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        You are reading more into it than is there. It is just getting used to the microbes. It happens to a lot of people who travel internationally. There is NOTHING wrong with the US (now that health care was passed). :rolleyes:

        Opacity, the new Transparency.

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          You are reading more into it than is there. It is just getting used to the microbes. It happens to a lot of people who travel internationally. There is NOTHING wrong with the US (now that health care was passed). :rolleyes:

          Opacity, the new Transparency.

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          Tim Craig
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          Wasn't much wrong before other than healthcare hadn't been passed and conservatives have been enjoying the fruits of the constitution they despise. :doh:

          You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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            Wasn't much wrong before other than healthcare hadn't been passed and conservatives have been enjoying the fruits of the constitution they despise. :doh:

            You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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            Tim Craig wrote:

            Wasn't much wrong before other than healthcare hadn't been passed and conservatives have been enjoying the fruits of the constitution they despise. D'Oh!

            Given you think them the asshole opposition, the minority dissenters, you should respect them, as

            Tim Craig wrote:

            You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

            I am one of those conservatives that you claim despise the Constitution. :doh:

            Opacity, the new Transparency.

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              You are reading more into it than is there. It is just getting used to the microbes. It happens to a lot of people who travel internationally. There is NOTHING wrong with the US (now that health care was passed). :rolleyes:

              Opacity, the new Transparency.

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              Christian Graus
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              RichardM1 wrote:

              There is NOTHING wrong with the US (now that health care was passed).

              ROTFL - the flip side is of course that horrible, unhealthy industrial food is probably the reason we've not already had major food shortages, but for me personally, I choose to eat better,

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                Tim Craig wrote:

                Wasn't much wrong before other than healthcare hadn't been passed and conservatives have been enjoying the fruits of the constitution they despise. D'Oh!

                Given you think them the asshole opposition, the minority dissenters, you should respect them, as

                Tim Craig wrote:

                You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

                I am one of those conservatives that you claim despise the Constitution. :doh:

                Opacity, the new Transparency.

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                RichardM1 wrote:

                Given you think them the a**hole opposition, the minority dissenters, you should respect them, as

                I respect them every bit as much as they respect me. :doh:

                RichardM1 wrote:

                I am one of those conservatives that you claim despise the Constitution.

                Never doubted it for a minute. Keep up the good work. :laugh:

                You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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                  RichardM1 wrote:

                  There is NOTHING wrong with the US (now that health care was passed).

                  ROTFL - the flip side is of course that horrible, unhealthy industrial food is probably the reason we've not already had major food shortages, but for me personally, I choose to eat better,

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  unhealthy industrial food

                  Aren't you the one screwing, er, shearing your own sheep? :laugh:

                  You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    unhealthy industrial food

                    Aren't you the one screwing, er, shearing your own sheep? :laugh:

                    You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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                    Christian Graus
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                    Precisely my point. Yes, I am. We grow as much of our own food as we can.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      Has anyone seen this movie ? I am reading the book. I'd love to get some info on how bad the food industry is in Australia, compared to the USA, where it's plainly shot to hell. I've always known that. I get ill every time I am in the US, and even eating at good restaurants, I find I need to go to the toilet 10 times a day instead of once. I've been in to growing our own organic food for years, but I've never really read on how bad the industrial system is before.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      R Giskard Reventlov
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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      even eating at good restaurants

                      You mean like IHop? or Jack-in-the-Box? :-) (Actually, I love IHop: you just can't beat the breakfast. Especially for dinner). Your body has to get used to the change in food, water and the environment. Also depends on your own constitution: sounds like yours is quite delicate: it never really bothers me... but then I'll eat pretty much anything. In any case, there are no good restaurants in the US. They have some pretty mediocre ones and NY has one or 2 passable restaurants but that's about it. Maybe that's why I like IHop or Ted's Montana Grill or Fat Burger or, the best, Cheese Cake Factory/Grand Luxe Cafe: you always know what you're going to get.

                      me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        even eating at good restaurants

                        You mean like IHop? or Jack-in-the-Box? :-) (Actually, I love IHop: you just can't beat the breakfast. Especially for dinner). Your body has to get used to the change in food, water and the environment. Also depends on your own constitution: sounds like yours is quite delicate: it never really bothers me... but then I'll eat pretty much anything. In any case, there are no good restaurants in the US. They have some pretty mediocre ones and NY has one or 2 passable restaurants but that's about it. Maybe that's why I like IHop or Ted's Montana Grill or Fat Burger or, the best, Cheese Cake Factory/Grand Luxe Cafe: you always know what you're going to get.

                        me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                        digital man wrote:

                        In any case, there are no good restaurants in the US

                        Have to disagree. For Breakfast, nothing, and I mean Nothing!, beats Denny's. The Best Breakfast, so big and filling, you do not need to eat for the rest of the day!

                        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          even eating at good restaurants

                          You mean like IHop? or Jack-in-the-Box? :-) (Actually, I love IHop: you just can't beat the breakfast. Especially for dinner). Your body has to get used to the change in food, water and the environment. Also depends on your own constitution: sounds like yours is quite delicate: it never really bothers me... but then I'll eat pretty much anything. In any case, there are no good restaurants in the US. They have some pretty mediocre ones and NY has one or 2 passable restaurants but that's about it. Maybe that's why I like IHop or Ted's Montana Grill or Fat Burger or, the best, Cheese Cake Factory/Grand Luxe Cafe: you always know what you're going to get.

                          me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                          digital man wrote:

                          Cheese Cake Factory

                          Mmmmmm, had a lovely jambalaya there last year, the cheesecake was an afterthought as far as I was concerned :)

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                            digital man wrote:

                            In any case, there are no good restaurants in the US

                            Have to disagree. For Breakfast, nothing, and I mean Nothing!, beats Denny's. The Best Breakfast, so big and filling, you do not need to eat for the rest of the day!

                            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                            R Giskard Reventlov
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                            Yeah, Dennys. Forgot about that. Used to be one over the road from where I was wroking and we went in every day for the $6 surf-n-turf lunch. Only Sizzler was better but I think they're gone now.

                            me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                              digital man wrote:

                              Cheese Cake Factory

                              Mmmmmm, had a lovely jambalaya there last year, the cheesecake was an afterthought as far as I was concerned :)

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                              The portions have got smaller: time was you'd have a piece of cheese cake (peanut butter was my favorite) and that would be it untl lunch the next day. Now, I feel I should ask for seconds...

                              me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                even eating at good restaurants

                                You mean like IHop? or Jack-in-the-Box? :-) (Actually, I love IHop: you just can't beat the breakfast. Especially for dinner). Your body has to get used to the change in food, water and the environment. Also depends on your own constitution: sounds like yours is quite delicate: it never really bothers me... but then I'll eat pretty much anything. In any case, there are no good restaurants in the US. They have some pretty mediocre ones and NY has one or 2 passable restaurants but that's about it. Maybe that's why I like IHop or Ted's Montana Grill or Fat Burger or, the best, Cheese Cake Factory/Grand Luxe Cafe: you always know what you're going to get.

                                me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                                Christian Graus
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                                digital man wrote:

                                Your body has to get used to the change in food, water and the environment. Also depends on your own constitution: sounds like yours is quite delicate: it never really bothers me... but then I'll eat pretty much anything.

                                Well, I am sure if I was used to US style industrial food, nothing would bother me, either :-)

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  digital man wrote:

                                  In any case, there are no good restaurants in the US

                                  Have to disagree. For Breakfast, nothing, and I mean Nothing!, beats Denny's. The Best Breakfast, so big and filling, you do not need to eat for the rest of the day!

                                  ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                                  Christian Graus
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                                  I once stayed in a hotel by a Denny's. I ate three meals there, and all I could think of, was that I would die if I could not eat actual fresh fruit. That's not really like me. I've never eaten there again.

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    digital man wrote:

                                    Your body has to get used to the change in food, water and the environment. Also depends on your own constitution: sounds like yours is quite delicate: it never really bothers me... but then I'll eat pretty much anything.

                                    Well, I am sure if I was used to US style industrial food, nothing would bother me, either :-)

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    Well, I am sure if I was used to US style industrial food, nothing would bother me, either

                                    Very good. However, I should point out that, at home, I eat fresh, healthy food; I just have the constitution of an ox! :)

                                    me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                                      Christian Graus wrote:

                                      Well, I am sure if I was used to US style industrial food, nothing would bother me, either

                                      Very good. However, I should point out that, at home, I eat fresh, healthy food; I just have the constitution of an ox! :)

                                      me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      digital man wrote:

                                      Very good. However, I should point out that, at home, I eat fresh, healthy food; I just have the constitution of an ox!

                                      *grin* well that could be. If you grow your own food or buy organic, then you may well be used to good food and just be strongly built. I can buy US sodas here now, and I find that just one soda is enough to set me off, if it has HFCS instead of sugar. That is, it makes me feel unwell.

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        The portions have got smaller: time was you'd have a piece of cheese cake (peanut butter was my favorite) and that would be it untl lunch the next day. Now, I feel I should ask for seconds...

                                        me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                                        That's a shame, the jambalaya I had was plenty big enough and the cheesecake slice was unlike a slcie I've ever seen before (it was some kind of chocolately/brownie/cookie variant I think). This was at Mall@Millenia, FL. Speaking of jambalaya I had a nice one (though not as nice as CF) yesterday in Giraffe at MK Centre. Small portions there actually, but very scrummy. We were "forced" to fill the hole with a rocky road sundae :cool:

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                                          digital man wrote:

                                          Very good. However, I should point out that, at home, I eat fresh, healthy food; I just have the constitution of an ox!

                                          *grin* well that could be. If you grow your own food or buy organic, then you may well be used to good food and just be strongly built. I can buy US sodas here now, and I find that just one soda is enough to set me off, if it has HFCS instead of sugar. That is, it makes me feel unwell.

                                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          I can buy US sodas here now, and I find that just one soda is enough to set me off

                                          I only drink carbonated if I'm really thirsty and there is nothing else available: it really is crap. Oh yes, strongly built: as Rambo's boss said: 'he can eat things that would make a billy goat puke'. Well, nearly! :)

                                          me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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