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  • R RichardM1

    You are reading more into it than is there. It is just getting used to the microbes. It happens to a lot of people who travel internationally. There is NOTHING wrong with the US (now that health care was passed). :rolleyes:

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    Tim Craig
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    Wasn't much wrong before other than healthcare hadn't been passed and conservatives have been enjoying the fruits of the constitution they despise. :doh:

    You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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      Wasn't much wrong before other than healthcare hadn't been passed and conservatives have been enjoying the fruits of the constitution they despise. :doh:

      You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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      Tim Craig wrote:

      Wasn't much wrong before other than healthcare hadn't been passed and conservatives have been enjoying the fruits of the constitution they despise. D'Oh!

      Given you think them the asshole opposition, the minority dissenters, you should respect them, as

      Tim Craig wrote:

      You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

      I am one of those conservatives that you claim despise the Constitution. :doh:

      Opacity, the new Transparency.

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      • R RichardM1

        You are reading more into it than is there. It is just getting used to the microbes. It happens to a lot of people who travel internationally. There is NOTHING wrong with the US (now that health care was passed). :rolleyes:

        Opacity, the new Transparency.

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        Christian Graus
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        RichardM1 wrote:

        There is NOTHING wrong with the US (now that health care was passed).

        ROTFL - the flip side is of course that horrible, unhealthy industrial food is probably the reason we've not already had major food shortages, but for me personally, I choose to eat better,

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          Tim Craig wrote:

          Wasn't much wrong before other than healthcare hadn't been passed and conservatives have been enjoying the fruits of the constitution they despise. D'Oh!

          Given you think them the asshole opposition, the minority dissenters, you should respect them, as

          Tim Craig wrote:

          You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

          I am one of those conservatives that you claim despise the Constitution. :doh:

          Opacity, the new Transparency.

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          RichardM1 wrote:

          Given you think them the a**hole opposition, the minority dissenters, you should respect them, as

          I respect them every bit as much as they respect me. :doh:

          RichardM1 wrote:

          I am one of those conservatives that you claim despise the Constitution.

          Never doubted it for a minute. Keep up the good work. :laugh:

          You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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            RichardM1 wrote:

            There is NOTHING wrong with the US (now that health care was passed).

            ROTFL - the flip side is of course that horrible, unhealthy industrial food is probably the reason we've not already had major food shortages, but for me personally, I choose to eat better,

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            Tim Craig
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            Christian Graus wrote:

            unhealthy industrial food

            Aren't you the one screwing, er, shearing your own sheep? :laugh:

            You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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              Christian Graus wrote:

              unhealthy industrial food

              Aren't you the one screwing, er, shearing your own sheep? :laugh:

              You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.

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              Christian Graus
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              Precisely my point. Yes, I am. We grow as much of our own food as we can.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              • C Christian Graus

                Has anyone seen this movie ? I am reading the book. I'd love to get some info on how bad the food industry is in Australia, compared to the USA, where it's plainly shot to hell. I've always known that. I get ill every time I am in the US, and even eating at good restaurants, I find I need to go to the toilet 10 times a day instead of once. I've been in to growing our own organic food for years, but I've never really read on how bad the industrial system is before.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                R Giskard Reventlov
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                Christian Graus wrote:

                even eating at good restaurants

                You mean like IHop? or Jack-in-the-Box? :-) (Actually, I love IHop: you just can't beat the breakfast. Especially for dinner). Your body has to get used to the change in food, water and the environment. Also depends on your own constitution: sounds like yours is quite delicate: it never really bothers me... but then I'll eat pretty much anything. In any case, there are no good restaurants in the US. They have some pretty mediocre ones and NY has one or 2 passable restaurants but that's about it. Maybe that's why I like IHop or Ted's Montana Grill or Fat Burger or, the best, Cheese Cake Factory/Grand Luxe Cafe: you always know what you're going to get.

                me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  even eating at good restaurants

                  You mean like IHop? or Jack-in-the-Box? :-) (Actually, I love IHop: you just can't beat the breakfast. Especially for dinner). Your body has to get used to the change in food, water and the environment. Also depends on your own constitution: sounds like yours is quite delicate: it never really bothers me... but then I'll eat pretty much anything. In any case, there are no good restaurants in the US. They have some pretty mediocre ones and NY has one or 2 passable restaurants but that's about it. Maybe that's why I like IHop or Ted's Montana Grill or Fat Burger or, the best, Cheese Cake Factory/Grand Luxe Cafe: you always know what you're going to get.

                  me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                  digital man wrote:

                  In any case, there are no good restaurants in the US

                  Have to disagree. For Breakfast, nothing, and I mean Nothing!, beats Denny's. The Best Breakfast, so big and filling, you do not need to eat for the rest of the day!

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                  • R R Giskard Reventlov

                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    even eating at good restaurants

                    You mean like IHop? or Jack-in-the-Box? :-) (Actually, I love IHop: you just can't beat the breakfast. Especially for dinner). Your body has to get used to the change in food, water and the environment. Also depends on your own constitution: sounds like yours is quite delicate: it never really bothers me... but then I'll eat pretty much anything. In any case, there are no good restaurants in the US. They have some pretty mediocre ones and NY has one or 2 passable restaurants but that's about it. Maybe that's why I like IHop or Ted's Montana Grill or Fat Burger or, the best, Cheese Cake Factory/Grand Luxe Cafe: you always know what you're going to get.

                    me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                    phannon86
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                    digital man wrote:

                    Cheese Cake Factory

                    Mmmmmm, had a lovely jambalaya there last year, the cheesecake was an afterthought as far as I was concerned :)

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                      digital man wrote:

                      In any case, there are no good restaurants in the US

                      Have to disagree. For Breakfast, nothing, and I mean Nothing!, beats Denny's. The Best Breakfast, so big and filling, you do not need to eat for the rest of the day!

                      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                      R Giskard Reventlov
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                      Yeah, Dennys. Forgot about that. Used to be one over the road from where I was wroking and we went in every day for the $6 surf-n-turf lunch. Only Sizzler was better but I think they're gone now.

                      me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                      • P phannon86

                        digital man wrote:

                        Cheese Cake Factory

                        Mmmmmm, had a lovely jambalaya there last year, the cheesecake was an afterthought as far as I was concerned :)

                        He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.

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                        R Giskard Reventlov
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                        The portions have got smaller: time was you'd have a piece of cheese cake (peanut butter was my favorite) and that would be it untl lunch the next day. Now, I feel I should ask for seconds...

                        me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                        • R R Giskard Reventlov

                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          even eating at good restaurants

                          You mean like IHop? or Jack-in-the-Box? :-) (Actually, I love IHop: you just can't beat the breakfast. Especially for dinner). Your body has to get used to the change in food, water and the environment. Also depends on your own constitution: sounds like yours is quite delicate: it never really bothers me... but then I'll eat pretty much anything. In any case, there are no good restaurants in the US. They have some pretty mediocre ones and NY has one or 2 passable restaurants but that's about it. Maybe that's why I like IHop or Ted's Montana Grill or Fat Burger or, the best, Cheese Cake Factory/Grand Luxe Cafe: you always know what you're going to get.

                          me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                          Christian Graus
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                          digital man wrote:

                          Your body has to get used to the change in food, water and the environment. Also depends on your own constitution: sounds like yours is quite delicate: it never really bothers me... but then I'll eat pretty much anything.

                          Well, I am sure if I was used to US style industrial food, nothing would bother me, either :-)

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            digital man wrote:

                            In any case, there are no good restaurants in the US

                            Have to disagree. For Breakfast, nothing, and I mean Nothing!, beats Denny's. The Best Breakfast, so big and filling, you do not need to eat for the rest of the day!

                            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                            Christian Graus
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                            I once stayed in a hotel by a Denny's. I ate three meals there, and all I could think of, was that I would die if I could not eat actual fresh fruit. That's not really like me. I've never eaten there again.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              digital man wrote:

                              Your body has to get used to the change in food, water and the environment. Also depends on your own constitution: sounds like yours is quite delicate: it never really bothers me... but then I'll eat pretty much anything.

                              Well, I am sure if I was used to US style industrial food, nothing would bother me, either :-)

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              R Giskard Reventlov
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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              Well, I am sure if I was used to US style industrial food, nothing would bother me, either

                              Very good. However, I should point out that, at home, I eat fresh, healthy food; I just have the constitution of an ox! :)

                              me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                Well, I am sure if I was used to US style industrial food, nothing would bother me, either

                                Very good. However, I should point out that, at home, I eat fresh, healthy food; I just have the constitution of an ox! :)

                                me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                                Christian Graus
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                                digital man wrote:

                                Very good. However, I should point out that, at home, I eat fresh, healthy food; I just have the constitution of an ox!

                                *grin* well that could be. If you grow your own food or buy organic, then you may well be used to good food and just be strongly built. I can buy US sodas here now, and I find that just one soda is enough to set me off, if it has HFCS instead of sugar. That is, it makes me feel unwell.

                                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  The portions have got smaller: time was you'd have a piece of cheese cake (peanut butter was my favorite) and that would be it untl lunch the next day. Now, I feel I should ask for seconds...

                                  me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                                  That's a shame, the jambalaya I had was plenty big enough and the cheesecake slice was unlike a slcie I've ever seen before (it was some kind of chocolately/brownie/cookie variant I think). This was at Mall@Millenia, FL. Speaking of jambalaya I had a nice one (though not as nice as CF) yesterday in Giraffe at MK Centre. Small portions there actually, but very scrummy. We were "forced" to fill the hole with a rocky road sundae :cool:

                                  He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.

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                                  • C Christian Graus

                                    digital man wrote:

                                    Very good. However, I should point out that, at home, I eat fresh, healthy food; I just have the constitution of an ox!

                                    *grin* well that could be. If you grow your own food or buy organic, then you may well be used to good food and just be strongly built. I can buy US sodas here now, and I find that just one soda is enough to set me off, if it has HFCS instead of sugar. That is, it makes me feel unwell.

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    I can buy US sodas here now, and I find that just one soda is enough to set me off

                                    I only drink carbonated if I'm really thirsty and there is nothing else available: it really is crap. Oh yes, strongly built: as Rambo's boss said: 'he can eat things that would make a billy goat puke'. Well, nearly! :)

                                    me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                                      Has anyone seen this movie ? I am reading the book. I'd love to get some info on how bad the food industry is in Australia, compared to the USA, where it's plainly shot to hell. I've always known that. I get ill every time I am in the US, and even eating at good restaurants, I find I need to go to the toilet 10 times a day instead of once. I've been in to growing our own organic food for years, but I've never really read on how bad the industrial system is before.

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                      I never had problems in the US with their food. Its basic stuff, but harmless. I was OK in Mexico and guatemala too. However there is an issue, as one poster pointed out, about getting used to different microbes. I know some Indian guys who get a mildly upset stomach when coming to europe! But then again I guess I grew up drinking water from streams when thirsty which I hear gives one a good immune system.

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                                        I never had problems in the US with their food. Its basic stuff, but harmless. I was OK in Mexico and guatemala too. However there is an issue, as one poster pointed out, about getting used to different microbes. I know some Indian guys who get a mildly upset stomach when coming to europe! But then again I guess I grew up drinking water from streams when thirsty which I hear gives one a good immune system.

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                                        fat_boy wrote:

                                        But then again I guess I grew up drinking water from streams when thirsty which I hear gives one a good immune system.

                                        Good point: I also think that people born in the 50s/60s and maybe the 70s were the last generation in the west that were born and raised with 'organic' food as the norm since there were few supermarkets and not much processed food to buy. My mum used to walk to the local farm to get milk, butter and eggs. Mind you, that was in 1863! :-)

                                        me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                                        • R RichardM1

                                          You are reading more into it than is there. It is just getting used to the microbes. It happens to a lot of people who travel internationally. There is NOTHING wrong with the US (now that health care was passed). :rolleyes:

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                                          RichardM1 wrote:

                                          There is NOTHING wrong with the US (now that health care was passed). Roll eyes

                                          Nothing like inserting politics where it wasn't warranted. :rolleyes:

                                          That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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