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  • N Nelek

    I don't know exactly when it was said, but in the last days, the minister of education in germany told he was considering a solution to solve the lack of medicine doctors and other professions in germany. That solution would be... to cancel the "numerus clausus" in the studies where the number of professionals is low :doh: :doh: I don't really think that would be actually the correct solution, it would make that more students could start the studies yes... and the students with a bad access-exam can be very good at the end, but... I think the reason why there are less professionals than needed, is not because there are less people studying these degrees, I think is due to the bad conditions of the jobs-markt for that professions (some students I know say it and I kindda agree), so that people move to another countries to have better oportunities. At least, that was the main reason in Spain before the educational system got fu..ed with the "improved" new system (now we are actually having a lack of good prepared people :sigh: :sigh: ). What do you mean think (thanks CPallini)?

    Regards. -------- M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpfull answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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    hairy_hats
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    Nelek wrote:

    What do you mean?

    I think you meant "what do I mean?"

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      Nelek wrote:

      What do you mean?

      I think you meant "what do I mean?"

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      viaducting wrote:

      I think you meant "what do I mean?"

      I think he meant: "what do you think?" :)

      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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      • N Nelek

        I don't know exactly when it was said, but in the last days, the minister of education in germany told he was considering a solution to solve the lack of medicine doctors and other professions in germany. That solution would be... to cancel the "numerus clausus" in the studies where the number of professionals is low :doh: :doh: I don't really think that would be actually the correct solution, it would make that more students could start the studies yes... and the students with a bad access-exam can be very good at the end, but... I think the reason why there are less professionals than needed, is not because there are less people studying these degrees, I think is due to the bad conditions of the jobs-markt for that professions (some students I know say it and I kindda agree), so that people move to another countries to have better oportunities. At least, that was the main reason in Spain before the educational system got fu..ed with the "improved" new system (now we are actually having a lack of good prepared people :sigh: :sigh: ). What do you mean think (thanks CPallini)?

        Regards. -------- M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpfull answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        Dave Parker
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        Here in the UK the solution the politicians seem to have to *everything* is a new tax. This is todays: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/health/s/1202860_burger_tax_to_help_fight_war_on_cancer[^]

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        • D Dave Parker

          Here in the UK the solution the politicians seem to have to *everything* is a new tax. This is todays: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/health/s/1202860_burger_tax_to_help_fight_war_on_cancer[^]

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          NormDroid
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          Sheer insanity :wtf: So say I like to have a donner kebab probably once a month, I get taxed - this country sucks.:mad:

          Two heads are better than one.

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            Sheer insanity :wtf: So say I like to have a donner kebab probably once a month, I get taxed - this country sucks.:mad:

            Two heads are better than one.

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            Alan Beasley
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            Norm .net wrote:

            Sheer insanity So say I like to have a donner kebab probably once a month, I get taxed - this country sucks.

            So you get taxed once a month, yet someone who eats $hit everyday gets taxed everyday. The people who eat Cr@p pay for the medical care that they undoubtedly will need. It's been happening to smokers for years...

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              viaducting wrote:

              I think you meant "what do I mean?"

              I think he meant: "what do you think?" :)

              If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
              This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
              [My articles]

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              Nelek
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              Emmm... yes. That is what I wanted to ask ;P Thanks

              Regards. -------- M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpfull answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              • D Dave Parker

                Here in the UK the solution the politicians seem to have to *everything* is a new tax. This is todays: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/health/s/1202860_burger_tax_to_help_fight_war_on_cancer[^]

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                Russell Jones
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                Taxes are the number one way of doing anything. Nearly as effective are cameras and databases. Of course if we could have a fastfood database that pre-emptively fines people based on a camera that does facial recognition then only the government's friends at EDS or Capita would be getting fat and everyone would be happy.

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                • N Nelek

                  I don't know exactly when it was said, but in the last days, the minister of education in germany told he was considering a solution to solve the lack of medicine doctors and other professions in germany. That solution would be... to cancel the "numerus clausus" in the studies where the number of professionals is low :doh: :doh: I don't really think that would be actually the correct solution, it would make that more students could start the studies yes... and the students with a bad access-exam can be very good at the end, but... I think the reason why there are less professionals than needed, is not because there are less people studying these degrees, I think is due to the bad conditions of the jobs-markt for that professions (some students I know say it and I kindda agree), so that people move to another countries to have better oportunities. At least, that was the main reason in Spain before the educational system got fu..ed with the "improved" new system (now we are actually having a lack of good prepared people :sigh: :sigh: ). What do you mean think (thanks CPallini)?

                  Regards. -------- M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpfull answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                  Marc Clifton
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                  Nelek wrote:

                  to solve the lack of medicine doctors and other professions in germany. That solution would be...

                  invent a time machine and stop the Holocaust? Marc

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                  • N Nelek

                    I don't know exactly when it was said, but in the last days, the minister of education in germany told he was considering a solution to solve the lack of medicine doctors and other professions in germany. That solution would be... to cancel the "numerus clausus" in the studies where the number of professionals is low :doh: :doh: I don't really think that would be actually the correct solution, it would make that more students could start the studies yes... and the students with a bad access-exam can be very good at the end, but... I think the reason why there are less professionals than needed, is not because there are less people studying these degrees, I think is due to the bad conditions of the jobs-markt for that professions (some students I know say it and I kindda agree), so that people move to another countries to have better oportunities. At least, that was the main reason in Spain before the educational system got fu..ed with the "improved" new system (now we are actually having a lack of good prepared people :sigh: :sigh: ). What do you mean think (thanks CPallini)?

                    Regards. -------- M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpfull answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                    CaptainSeeSharp
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                    Government regulations and high taxes are the problem.

                    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                      Norm .net wrote:

                      Sheer insanity So say I like to have a donner kebab probably once a month, I get taxed - this country sucks.

                      So you get taxed once a month, yet someone who eats $hit everyday gets taxed everyday. The people who eat Cr@p pay for the medical care that they undoubtedly will need. It's been happening to smokers for years...

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                      CaptainSeeSharp
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                      Why can't they just pay for the doctor bills directly? I don't think burgers cause cancer anyways (the burger tax is to fight the "war on cancer").

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                        Why can't they just pay for the doctor bills directly? I don't think burgers cause cancer anyways (the burger tax is to fight the "war on cancer").

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                        Alan Beasley
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                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                        Why can't they just pay for the doctor bills directly

                        This is the UK, & we have the NHS, so we all pay!!! The war on cancer with regards the burger tax, is a polite way of saying: The war on fat people! Who can't close the fridge door for more than 2 minutes...

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                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                          Why can't they just pay for the doctor bills directly

                          This is the UK, & we have the NHS, so we all pay!!! The war on cancer with regards the burger tax, is a polite way of saying: The war on fat people! Who can't close the fridge door for more than 2 minutes...

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                          Alan Beasley wrote:

                          The war on cancer with regards the burger tax, is a polite way of saying: The war on fat people!

                          A democracy which makes or even effectively prepares for modern, scientific war must necessarily cease to be democratic. No country can be really well prepared for modern war unless it is governed by a tyrant, at the head of a highly trained and perfectly obedient bureaucracy. -Aldous Huxley War may sometimes be a necessary evil. But no matter how necessary, it is always an evil, never a good. -Carter

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                            Alan Beasley wrote:

                            The war on cancer with regards the burger tax, is a polite way of saying: The war on fat people!

                            A democracy which makes or even effectively prepares for modern, scientific war must necessarily cease to be democratic. No country can be really well prepared for modern war unless it is governed by a tyrant, at the head of a highly trained and perfectly obedient bureaucracy. -Aldous Huxley War may sometimes be a necessary evil. But no matter how necessary, it is always an evil, never a good. -Carter

                            Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                            Alan Beasley
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                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            A democracy which makes or even effectively prepares for modern, scientific war must necessarily cease to be democratic. No country can be really well prepared for modern war unless it is governed by a tyrant, at the head of a highly trained and perfectly obedient bureaucracy. -Aldous Huxley

                            I bow to your superior skills in frying my brian!!! :-D

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                            • N Nelek

                              I don't know exactly when it was said, but in the last days, the minister of education in germany told he was considering a solution to solve the lack of medicine doctors and other professions in germany. That solution would be... to cancel the "numerus clausus" in the studies where the number of professionals is low :doh: :doh: I don't really think that would be actually the correct solution, it would make that more students could start the studies yes... and the students with a bad access-exam can be very good at the end, but... I think the reason why there are less professionals than needed, is not because there are less people studying these degrees, I think is due to the bad conditions of the jobs-markt for that professions (some students I know say it and I kindda agree), so that people move to another countries to have better oportunities. At least, that was the main reason in Spain before the educational system got fu..ed with the "improved" new system (now we are actually having a lack of good prepared people :sigh: :sigh: ). What do you mean think (thanks CPallini)?

                              Regards. -------- M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpfull answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                              patbob
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                              I think I'm glad I won't live forver.

                              patbob

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                              • D Dave Parker

                                Here in the UK the solution the politicians seem to have to *everything* is a new tax. This is todays: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/health/s/1202860_burger_tax_to_help_fight_war_on_cancer[^]

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                                James Lonero
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                                What's next, taxing Obesity? Yes, we can have a public weigh in and televise it. Take that Biggest Looser! It sounds like the politicians in the UK are further to the left than Obama and his party.

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                                • N Nelek

                                  I don't know exactly when it was said, but in the last days, the minister of education in germany told he was considering a solution to solve the lack of medicine doctors and other professions in germany. That solution would be... to cancel the "numerus clausus" in the studies where the number of professionals is low :doh: :doh: I don't really think that would be actually the correct solution, it would make that more students could start the studies yes... and the students with a bad access-exam can be very good at the end, but... I think the reason why there are less professionals than needed, is not because there are less people studying these degrees, I think is due to the bad conditions of the jobs-markt for that professions (some students I know say it and I kindda agree), so that people move to another countries to have better oportunities. At least, that was the main reason in Spain before the educational system got fu..ed with the "improved" new system (now we are actually having a lack of good prepared people :sigh: :sigh: ). What do you mean think (thanks CPallini)?

                                  Regards. -------- M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpfull answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

                                  modified on Tuesday, April 6, 2010 8:05 AM

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                                  Ammar Arwany
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                                  I guess the main problem in Germany is not the Market itself, I have seen many good opportunities in the past two months (my arrival date in Germany). The main issue is: That the gov. is not advertising it well, how much they need, so that the students can follow and get into. Many Students I have seen, they just try to get some degree to get what so-called: (Beamte) (gov. Employed). And they think there are easier way than studying many years, and get no good chance at the end ! My mind is just from what I saw in the past two months, it could quite be wrong.

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