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  • C Christian Graus

    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    What rights in the constitution were being violated?

    What constitution ? I'm in Australia.

    CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

    There right to what exactly? Private property or personal liberty?

    Their right to not be exploited. To be offered conditions of employment that don't require them to choose between a workplace where injury is common, and starvation. What happened to meat workers in the 1890s is not that far removed from how Walmart etc hire casual labour only, giving people no stable income and no benefits. The creation of an underclass of people who cannot rely on a stable income, denies them the most basic human rights and freedoms.

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    CaptainSeeSharp
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    Christian Graus wrote:

    Their right to not be exploited.

    They can't be exploited unless they have the government forcing conditions on them.

    Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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    • C CaptainSeeSharp

      Simon_Whale wrote:

      One of my kids needs to take medication to control his condition of ADHD.

      You give your kids amphetamines because of some bullshit condition that is probably a condition of the shitty diet and lack of exercise? Get him away from the TV and out of the little building and out of the city. You really do have the intelligence of a jungle monkey.

      Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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      Gonzoox
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      pffft

      I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!

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      • C CaptainSeeSharp

        RichardM1 wrote:

        On the off chance it does not, it will at least make our lives better.

        Again, judgmentalism is placing others on a lower level to cover one's own inadequacies. "If you would get some counseling yourself, then I think that I could handle the situation." You are the drugged mental case, not me.

        Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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        Lost User
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        Plagiarism: The act of presenting someone else's work[^] as your own.

        Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.

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        • C CaptainSeeSharp

          RichardM1 wrote:

          I wish he would get help.

          Judgmentalism is placing others on a lower level to cover one's own inadequacies. "If you would get some counseling yourself, then I think that I could handle the situation." Again, you are the one that is mentally ill, as you said yourself, a majorly depressed maniac.

          Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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          Plagiarism: The act of presenting someone else's work[^] as your own.

          Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.

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            Plagiarism: The act of presenting someone else's work[^] as your own.

            Bob Emmett CSS: I don't intend to be a technical writing, I intend to be a software engineer.

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            Yayozama
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            But... But... He didn't include the "spiritual" part :rolleyes:

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            • R RichardM1

              Christian Graus wrote:

              denies them the most basic human rights and freedoms.

              On what do you base these rights and freedoms, if you have no constitution? Can they be whatever the government decides? This is question, not argument. I will argue later, when I know more. :-D

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              Christian Graus
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              RichardM1 wrote:

              On what do you base these rights and freedoms, if you have no constitution?

              Common sense and decency ? We have a constitution. I understand why yours was a revolutionary document in it's time, and why you guys still over emphasise its impact today, but the fact is, so long as you have democracy, human rights flow, because if you stand in the way of people's basic liberties, they won't vote for you.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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              • C CaptainSeeSharp

                Christian Graus wrote:

                Their right to not be exploited.

                They can't be exploited unless they have the government forcing conditions on them.

                Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                Christian Graus
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                You are an ignorant fool. You don't think that things like hunger and need for shelter will force people to take whatever work they are offered ?

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                • C CaptainSeeSharp

                  Simon_Whale wrote:

                  One of my kids needs to take medication to control his condition of ADHD.

                  You give your kids amphetamines because of some bullshit condition that is probably a condition of the shitty diet and lack of exercise? Get him away from the TV and out of the little building and out of the city. You really do have the intelligence of a jungle monkey.

                  Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]

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                  Simon_Whale
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                  have you any idea what you are talking? please let me do your research for you definition of ADHD, there are more in google. do you know my son? my son has the fat level of an sport person, he out of his own choice eats fruit and veg on a daily basis and more than the recommend 5 day levels so with out knowing my son how can you blame his diet on the conidtion? get a life get off here and allow grown ups to constructively argue.. now curtesy of the UK police forces Run along nothing to see here

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    RichardM1 wrote:

                    On what do you base these rights and freedoms, if you have no constitution?

                    Common sense and decency ? We have a constitution. I understand why yours was a revolutionary document in it's time, and why you guys still over emphasise its impact today, but the fact is, so long as you have democracy, human rights flow, because if you stand in the way of people's basic liberties, they won't vote for you.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    RichardM1
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                    I wasn't complaining, just asking.

                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    but the fact is, so long as you have democracy, human rights flow, because if you stand in the way of people's basic liberties, they won't vote for you

                    As long as the majority don't figure out they can vote to soak the minority, as is happening here.

                    Opacity, the new Transparency.

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                    • R RichardM1

                      :(( :(( :(( :(( :(( I wish he would get help. This may be a good excuse for me to bow out for the evening. It's after midnight and I have to be at the customer's early.

                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      Read a book or something.

                      :laugh: :laugh: I wasn't going to argue this, too, but we have no evidence that he can read more than a paragraph or two. And not much reason to believe he can even comprehend that much.

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                      Lost User
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                      The difference between noise and signal?

                      Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                        The difference between noise and signal?

                        Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                        RichardM1
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                        Trollslayer wrote:

                        The difference between noise and signal?

                        Sorry, I didn't understand. :) I was just complaining about, and ragging on, CSS.

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                        • R RichardM1

                          Trollslayer wrote:

                          The difference between noise and signal?

                          Sorry, I didn't understand. :) I was just complaining about, and ragging on, CSS.

                          Opacity, the new Transparency.

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                          Lost User
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                          Signals have information, noise is just interferes with communication.

                          Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                            have you any idea what you are talking? please let me do your research for you definition of ADHD, there are more in google. do you know my son? my son has the fat level of an sport person, he out of his own choice eats fruit and veg on a daily basis and more than the recommend 5 day levels so with out knowing my son how can you blame his diet on the conidtion? get a life get off here and allow grown ups to constructively argue.. now curtesy of the UK police forces Run along nothing to see here

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                            _Damian S_
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                            I don't know about over there, but here in Australia ADHD/ADD seem to be the flavour of the past decade, and ASD seems to be rapidly catching up. Any child who showed the slightest signs of being hyperactive or unfocussed seeemed to be labelled... I'm sure that there are some instances where there truly is some issue (eg: ADHD for your son), but here, it seems to be the most over-diagnosed and over-medicated issue in quite some time... Thoughts?

                            I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! If you like cars, check out the Booger Mobile blog | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!

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                            • R RichardM1

                              :-O I get treatment for my psoriasis to, it's no big deal. OK, it is a big deal. :(( :(( It is the 'heart break of psoriasis'.

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                              _Damian S_
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                              RichardM1 wrote:

                              psoriasis

                              :(( Sorry to hear about that - I have a friend who gets that quite severely, so I feel your pain.

                              I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! If you like cars, check out the Booger Mobile blog | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!

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                                Signals have information, noise is just interferes with communication.

                                Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                                _Damian S_
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                                I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! If you like cars, check out the Booger Mobile blog | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!

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                                  RichardM1 wrote:

                                  psoriasis

                                  :(( Sorry to hear about that - I have a friend who gets that quite severely, so I feel your pain.

                                  I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! If you like cars, check out the Booger Mobile blog | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!

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                                  RichardM1
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                                  Thank you, I appreciate it. It is tough to take the energy required to do what you did. My psoriasis, it's not bad - it didn't start till I was in my late 40s, so it is not part of my self image, I'm too old to care how people think I look, and it is just some dry, flaking, itchy spots. But my point was that stuff like this is just part of life, depression or psoriasis, they just have to be dealt with. And I'd rather have psoriasis then a bitch for a wife! :laugh: So I win, big time, cause she doesn't mind, and I don't see it much, :-D

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                                    Thank you, I appreciate it. It is tough to take the energy required to do what you did. My psoriasis, it's not bad - it didn't start till I was in my late 40s, so it is not part of my self image, I'm too old to care how people think I look, and it is just some dry, flaking, itchy spots. But my point was that stuff like this is just part of life, depression or psoriasis, they just have to be dealt with. And I'd rather have psoriasis then a bitch for a wife! :laugh: So I win, big time, cause she doesn't mind, and I don't see it much, :-D

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                                    _Damian S_
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                                    RichardM1 wrote:

                                    And I'd rather have psoriasis then a bitch for a wife!

                                    There's a bumper sticker you just never see... :laugh:

                                    I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! If you like cars, check out the Booger Mobile blog | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!

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                                      Signals have information, noise is just interferes with communication.

                                      Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

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                                      RichardM1
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                                      That is a hard one to take. :doh: I hope it's a complement. :-O But either way, it's in the same sentence as CSS. :wtf:

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                                      • R RichardM1

                                        That is a hard one to take. :doh: I hope it's a complement. :-O But either way, it's in the same sentence as CSS. :wtf:

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                                        _Damian S_
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                                        Be careful you don't invoke the newly invented CSS's law of internet arguments... Anyone who is arguing and has CSS agree with him/her automatically loses... :laugh:

                                        I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! If you like cars, check out the Booger Mobile blog | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!

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                                          Be careful you don't invoke the newly invented CSS's law of internet arguments... Anyone who is arguing and has CSS agree with him/her automatically loses... :laugh:

                                          I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! If you like cars, check out the Booger Mobile blog | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!

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                                          I did, last night![^] :-D

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