The teaparty in a teacup
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Benjamin Franklin spent years living in France begging for help because otherwise the cause was doomed.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
He was an American, and his actions of influence helped win the war.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There are more than 5k people involved in the taeparty.
Of course there is. If 5k care enough to show up, there's probably 50k or so, counting those who couldn't make it, couldn't be bothered, etc. But, that's still a drop in the bucket. There's plenty of fringe groups with more people than that. There's definitely more gay people in the city than that, so gay rights, as a political issue, is more likely to have an impact than these people are.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
During the American Revolution the British gave us the name of Yankees because they thought of us as incredibly stupid
Some dictionary sites say the origin is unknown. Wikipedia says it has it's origin in a nickname for dutch people. You don't explain how 'yankee' means 'incredibily stupid', you just say it and expect that to make it true. Typical.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They thought of us a criminals, lowest of the low
They thought of you as an outpost that should pay more taxes. Their actions were more pig headedness than contempt.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Actually the Yankees were the British. The Dutch called the British John Cheeses, because we ate a lot of cheese I suppose. Old Dutch for this was Jan Kaas.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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hammerstein05 wrote:
Yeah, the French came to Americas rescue and got the British to leave.
The French helped out, they deserve some credit.
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Have you read up on this part of history?
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Have you read up on this part of history?
hammerstein05 wrote:
Have you read up on this part of history?
Yes. You?
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
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hammerstein05 wrote:
Yeah, the French came to Americas rescue and got the British to leave.
The French helped out, they deserve some credit.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
Some? If not for the French, the Brits would have won. The French deserve as much credit for the American Revolution as the US deserves for WWII.
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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Actually the Yankees were the British. The Dutch called the British John Cheeses, because we ate a lot of cheese I suppose. Old Dutch for this was Jan Kaas.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
OK, the wikipedia said the opposite, I thought, but perhaps I read it wrong. Either way, it said there was a Dutch connection.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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He was an American, and his actions of influence helped win the war.
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
Yes, it's true. He begged the French, they came, and they are the reason you won.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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hammerstein05 wrote:
Have you read up on this part of history?
Yes. You?
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Did you read infowars ? I'm an Australian and I seem to know more than you do.
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OK, the wikipedia said the opposite, I thought, but perhaps I read it wrong. Either way, it said there was a Dutch connection.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
You just read it backwards, Christian. Most linguists look to Dutch sources, noting there was a great deal of interaction between the Dutch in New Netherland (New York) and the Yankees of New England. The Dutch first names "Jan" and "Kees" were and still are common. In many instances both names (Jan-Kees) are used as a single first name. The word "Yankee" is a variation that would refer to English settlers moving into previously Dutch areas.[5] So it's what the Dutch called the New Englanders when they moved into Dutch areas (New York City, for example, was originally a Dutch settlement called New Amsterdam)
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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hammerstein05 wrote:
Have you read up on this part of history?
Yes. You?
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
Yes thanks, and as far as the books I've read (from American school texts and a US published history books) the French did a little more than help.
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You just read it backwards, Christian. Most linguists look to Dutch sources, noting there was a great deal of interaction between the Dutch in New Netherland (New York) and the Yankees of New England. The Dutch first names "Jan" and "Kees" were and still are common. In many instances both names (Jan-Kees) are used as a single first name. The word "Yankee" is a variation that would refer to English settlers moving into previously Dutch areas.[5] So it's what the Dutch called the New Englanders when they moved into Dutch areas (New York City, for example, was originally a Dutch settlement called New Amsterdam)
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
You just read it backwards, Christian.
Fair enough. It's 6 am here....
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There are more than 5k people involved in the taeparty.
Of course there is. If 5k care enough to show up, there's probably 50k or so, counting those who couldn't make it, couldn't be bothered, etc. But, that's still a drop in the bucket. There's plenty of fringe groups with more people than that. There's definitely more gay people in the city than that, so gay rights, as a political issue, is more likely to have an impact than these people are.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
During the American Revolution the British gave us the name of Yankees because they thought of us as incredibly stupid
Some dictionary sites say the origin is unknown. Wikipedia says it has it's origin in a nickname for dutch people. You don't explain how 'yankee' means 'incredibily stupid', you just say it and expect that to make it true. Typical.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They thought of us a criminals, lowest of the low
They thought of you as an outpost that should pay more taxes. Their actions were more pig headedness than contempt.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
You don't explain
when has he explained anything? he just comes expecting demanding us to view things his way (very socialist). He never explained in my thread why a regulated market is worse than an self regulating one, he never explained why in some of his threads he is against any control from the government and in other threads he says that big bad companies are trying to take over and that is not right, he never explained why a free health care is bad, that if you don't have the money, then you don't deserve the treatment, then he says having money is bad... so he contradicts himself every time. Socialism is bad, death to the communists and the government is taking our freedom, but he comes here and is expecting from us to believe whatever he says, so where is my freedom? if you don't think like him or support his ideas, you're a stupid monkey... whenever you challenge him and he can't find an answer from his beloved sites, he just walks away from the thread and stops posting there and creates a new one You ask him for trusted sources of information, and what he gives you? Infowars, you ask him to give out his point of view and what he does? repeats whatever is in one of those conspiracy sites... so CG, I don't want to be rude, but you better sit down while you wait for an explanation of him. He's just a big failure
I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!
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hammerstein05 wrote:
Have you read up on this part of history?
Yes. You?
Watch the Fall of the Republic (High Quality 2:24:19)[^] Sons Of Liberty - Free Album[^] The True Soapbox is the Truthbox[^]
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
There are more than 5k people involved in the taeparty.
Of course there is. If 5k care enough to show up, there's probably 50k or so, counting those who couldn't make it, couldn't be bothered, etc. But, that's still a drop in the bucket. There's plenty of fringe groups with more people than that. There's definitely more gay people in the city than that, so gay rights, as a political issue, is more likely to have an impact than these people are.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
During the American Revolution the British gave us the name of Yankees because they thought of us as incredibly stupid
Some dictionary sites say the origin is unknown. Wikipedia says it has it's origin in a nickname for dutch people. You don't explain how 'yankee' means 'incredibily stupid', you just say it and expect that to make it true. Typical.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They thought of us a criminals, lowest of the low
They thought of you as an outpost that should pay more taxes. Their actions were more pig headedness than contempt.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
They thought of you as an outpost that should pay more taxes. Their actions were more pig headedness than contempt.
An excellent read on this topic is a portion of 'The March of Folly', by Barbara Tuchman. I don't know if you've heard of her, but she was a Pulitzer-winning (twice, IIRC) historian. (Self-taught, much to the chagrin of the 'pros'.) Another outstanding read of hers is 'A Distant Mirror', an exploration of life in 14-century Europe, France in particular.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
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Christian Graus wrote:
They thought of you as an outpost that should pay more taxes. Their actions were more pig headedness than contempt.
An excellent read on this topic is a portion of 'The March of Folly', by Barbara Tuchman. I don't know if you've heard of her, but she was a Pulitzer-winning (twice, IIRC) historian. (Self-taught, much to the chagrin of the 'pros'.) Another outstanding read of hers is 'A Distant Mirror', an exploration of life in 14-century Europe, France in particular.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
Sounds interesting. I have a ton of books to read right now, but I may add her to my list for when I'm done.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Sounds interesting. I have a ton of books to read right now, but I may add her to my list for when I'm done.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
I have every book she ever published (at least everything I know of). They are all outstanding, every one. Really well researched, very scholarly work,but very readable. None of this historical fiction shit. IIRC, the Pulitzer winners were 'The Guns of August', about the events leading up to, and the first month of, WW1, and 'Stillwell and The American Experience in China', about Joe Stillwell ('Vinegar Joe') and the US-Chinese military alliance in WW2.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
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Christian Graus wrote:
You don't explain
when has he explained anything? he just comes expecting demanding us to view things his way (very socialist). He never explained in my thread why a regulated market is worse than an self regulating one, he never explained why in some of his threads he is against any control from the government and in other threads he says that big bad companies are trying to take over and that is not right, he never explained why a free health care is bad, that if you don't have the money, then you don't deserve the treatment, then he says having money is bad... so he contradicts himself every time. Socialism is bad, death to the communists and the government is taking our freedom, but he comes here and is expecting from us to believe whatever he says, so where is my freedom? if you don't think like him or support his ideas, you're a stupid monkey... whenever you challenge him and he can't find an answer from his beloved sites, he just walks away from the thread and stops posting there and creates a new one You ask him for trusted sources of information, and what he gives you? Infowars, you ask him to give out his point of view and what he does? repeats whatever is in one of those conspiracy sites... so CG, I don't want to be rude, but you better sit down while you wait for an explanation of him. He's just a big failure
I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!
I also note that he doesn't bother to reply to me a lot of the time, I guess he just knows he has no comeback.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I have every book she ever published (at least everything I know of). They are all outstanding, every one. Really well researched, very scholarly work,but very readable. None of this historical fiction shit. IIRC, the Pulitzer winners were 'The Guns of August', about the events leading up to, and the first month of, WW1, and 'Stillwell and The American Experience in China', about Joe Stillwell ('Vinegar Joe') and the US-Chinese military alliance in WW2.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
I just ordered 6 books from her on Amazon. I figured if I order now, I can use the cheaper shipping option, as I have time before I'll be ready to read them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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I just ordered 6 books from her on Amazon. I figured if I order now, I can use the cheaper shipping option, as I have time before I'll be ready to read them.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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Awesome! :laugh: I think you'll be impressed. Go for 'The March of Folly' first. It's a kick - it's a study of bad governance through the ages, from the Trojans and the Horse through the US and Vietnam.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
yeah, that one definitely caught my eye, and I think I will read it first.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.