At last, a brilliant idea and easy to implement
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That totally sucks. The toys are the only reason I eat there.
-NP Never underestimate the creativity of the end-user.
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I can see it is a good idea in theory but will it change anything? If parents can't be bothered to cook for their children and want to bring them up on fast food then what will that change? As a child I would have loved to go to McDonalds all the time, a happy meal was quite tasty, I would get a nice shake with it and a toy to play with afterwards :omg: . There is a reason I wasn't an obese child though, and that is that my parents didn't mind saying no to me, they would cook me nutritious meals instead. On the rare occasion I would have a happy meal, it was a treat. I see far to many parents around these days that just give the child what they want when they ask for it and can't say no to them, that's what really needs to change. Just my 2p.
- Rob
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And next steps for Arnie are to grow mustache, start prosecution of jews and ban everything else that impede Californians from becoming supreme race.
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Making choices is hard - and with food, it is not a "once" choice, but this choice has to be made repeatedly, day by day, again and again. What we consider the right choice we are sometimes to exhausted to make - and companies make big money on that.
There is a nice experiment: Ask the people in two groups to remember a number, walk down the hallway, and present the number there. On the way, they pass a tabel where they can choose between (IIRC) a salad and cake - at least, somethign that's considered healthy, and something that's considered not. The only difference: Members of Group A have to remeber a 2 digit number. Members of group B a 7 digit number. In group B, significantly more people chose the cake. Source[^]
I wonder if you ever walked down the street with two kids, one permanently angry because it's growing a new tooth, the other obsessed with that shiny beautiful McDonalds logo, screaming his heart out because you said "no". Of course, that person could choose to walk down a different street to ignore the screams. Of course, that parent could have chosen to be a better parent (because all kids are equal and if you treat them right they behave like relaxed, educated adults). Of course, that person could have chosen not to become a parent. But since making money is more important than all that, you probably have a point.
Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
| FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server.peterchen wrote:
There is a nice experiment: Ask the people in two groups to remember a number, walk down the hallway, and present the number there. On the way, they pass a tabel where they can choose between (IIRC) a salad and cake - at least, somethign that's considered healthy, and something that's considered not. The only difference: Members of Group A have to remeber a 2 digit number. Members of group B a 7 digit number. In group B, significantly more people chose the cake.
As an alternate explanation I'd propose that eating a chunk of cake requires significantly less effort than fruit salad and would be curious if the results changed if it was an ice cream sunday vs an apple.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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Of course all parents live under circumstances where they can cook for their children most of the day.
Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
| FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server.Do they need to be available most of the day? Assuming the kids are old enough to be at school, they would have some kind of meal at lunch time and then the parents would only need to prepare a meal for the evening instead of popping out to grab a McDonalds. :)
- Rob
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ahmed zahmed wrote:
I wish it where "California county bans McDonald's Happy Meal toys
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Fight Big Government
Hmmm. God forbid people should make thier own choices.
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Making choices is hard - and with food, it is not a "once" choice, but this choice has to be made repeatedly, day by day, again and again. What we consider the right choice we are sometimes to exhausted to make - and companies make big money on that.
There is a nice experiment: Ask the people in two groups to remember a number, walk down the hallway, and present the number there. On the way, they pass a tabel where they can choose between (IIRC) a salad and cake - at least, somethign that's considered healthy, and something that's considered not. The only difference: Members of Group A have to remeber a 2 digit number. Members of group B a 7 digit number. In group B, significantly more people chose the cake. Source[^]
I wonder if you ever walked down the street with two kids, one permanently angry because it's growing a new tooth, the other obsessed with that shiny beautiful McDonalds logo, screaming his heart out because you said "no". Of course, that person could choose to walk down a different street to ignore the screams. Of course, that parent could have chosen to be a better parent (because all kids are equal and if you treat them right they behave like relaxed, educated adults). Of course, that person could have chosen not to become a parent. But since making money is more important than all that, you probably have a point.
Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
| FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server.peterchen wrote:
Making choices is hard - and with food, it is not a "once" choice, but this choice has to be made repeatedly, day by day, again and again.
I disagree, it's not that hard, there are thousands of inexpensive cookbooks with a seemingly infinte amount healthy alternatives. Generations before us seemed to have made these same choices every day.
peterchen wrote:
I wonder if you ever walked down the street with two kids, one permanently angry because it's growing a new tooth, the other obsessed with that shiny beautiful McDonalds logo, screaming his heart out because you said "no".
I have (well with one kid anyway), and saying no on occasion is a reality and a responsibilty. Yeah, my kid screamed until he was hoarse and boy was I getting the looks from everyone. However, he is my (and my wifes) responsibilty, one which we take very seriously. At this point he is seven, and if given the choice between brocolli and pizza, my kid will choose always choose the healthy alternate (it's actually a little scary). Why? because those are the kinds of things my wife and I gave him for the first years of his life, and no, making those choices was not that difficult.
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I remember the urban myths taht floated around where it contained seaweed, pig and chicken fat. Tasty.
JHizzle wrote:
I remember the urban myths taht floated around where it contained seaweed, pig and chicken fat.
The urban myth I heard was, styrofoam. Marc
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And next steps for Arnie are to grow mustache, start prosecution of jews and ban everything else that impede Californians from becoming supreme race.
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JHizzle wrote:
I remember the urban myths taht floated around where it contained seaweed, pig and chicken fat.
The urban myth I heard was, styrofoam. Marc
That was the Burger, not the shake.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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Looks like a good initiative, but in the article it almost literally says: "Parents are not responsible". I think society should have a look at that direction first... after all, who pays for the kid's meal?
V.
V. wrote:
literally says: "Parents are not responsible".
And that's the whole point of this, if I eat every day at McDonald's, get fat, a heart attack, who's fault is it? McDonald's fault? they give out the nutrition facts of their meals... it's all my fault!! but it's so easy to point fingers blaming someone else. We know that junk food ain't healthy, but we still eat it and then blame the fast food chains for making me fat, if you want healthy food, eat at home, period. I like to read this kind of news, McDonald's is luring kids because the toys, the kids have no money!! the parents are the ones taking the kids to McDonald's, paying for the happy meal and now it's McDonald's fault, I'd say that McDonald's is a very successful company when using their marketing campaigns, they are not targeting kids, they're targeting parents. I remember my days when I was a kid "mom, can I have a happy meal today?" "NO, now eat your vegetables" and when mom said NO was NO, no way to get around of that, no way to negotiate a NO for a maybe or a yes, NO was NO, simple. I don't understand these days why parents are so afraid of educating their kids, to make them tough, how many of you remember those days when sitting at the table you mom made for dinner tomato soup X| , meat loaf X| and some green beans X| "I don't like it" "well, then go to your room, is this or nothing" what happened? either you went to bed hungry or ate whatever she gave you, now, everyone gets their own meal, if the kid only likes pizza, he gets pizza while the parents eat something else. Scared of child services? man, I grew up in a dictatorship and whenever I wanted to raise my voice, demand my rights a high heel shoe was used to remind me my rights and I grew up fine, I don't have any traumas nor feel abused, on the contrary I thank my parents for what they did to me So banning Happy Meals is not the solution, after that what they will ban, plastic swords because they make kids violent? cowboy hats because those give kids the sensation o been able to ride a horse?
I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!
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ahmed zahmed wrote:
I wish it where "California county bans McDonald's Happy Meal toys
ahmed zahmed wrote:
Fight Big Government
Hmmm. God forbid people should make thier own choices.
lol. BTW, in case you didn't get it, it was a tongue-in-check comment.
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Wjousts wrote:
Irony is more delicious
absolutely. especially when it's tongue-in-cheek.
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I can see it is a good idea in theory but will it change anything? If parents can't be bothered to cook for their children and want to bring them up on fast food then what will that change? As a child I would have loved to go to McDonalds all the time, a happy meal was quite tasty, I would get a nice shake with it and a toy to play with afterwards :omg: . There is a reason I wasn't an obese child though, and that is that my parents didn't mind saying no to me, they would cook me nutritious meals instead. On the rare occasion I would have a happy meal, it was a treat. I see far to many parents around these days that just give the child what they want when they ask for it and can't say no to them, that's what really needs to change. Just my 2p.
- Rob
I agree in theory. Sometimes "poor" (and I mean that in all senses of the word) parents have to make that difficult choice between feeding their kids well and that big-screen HDTV or Pink Cadillac or watching that reality show and spending the time it takes to cook a real meal. Wow, personal responsibility and personal choice. Whoever thunk? My kids, on their own hate McDonalds and would never choose to go there.
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My kid won't eat the food; he only likes the play area.
What's he eat in the play area? ;P
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]
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My kid won't eat the food; he only likes the play area.
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
My kid won't eat the food
There's "food" at McDonalds? :confused:
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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That was the Burger, not the shake.
------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
Dalek Dave wrote:
That was the Burger, not the shake.
Oh! I'd always heard it was the shake. :) Marc
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I'm not sure what kind of toys are included, I don't tend to go for happy meals. I miss the supersize megamac meals though and wish they'd bring those back - as it is I've got to get an extra big mac with my large big mac meal.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
My kid won't eat the food
There's "food" at McDonalds? :confused:
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
You bet. Yummy yummy food that slides right down my throat on a built-in coating of grease the way nature intended. :cool: