Mainstream media downplays pro-illegal thug riots.
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Still market forces, and corrupt business practices. And where exactly are they getting total welfare? I couldn't get shit when I was out of work and I've been here my entire life. Do they buy you a car? A house? Or do they just barely feed you and expect you to find a job with no skills, no transport and no prospects?
Distind wrote:
And where exactly are they getting total welfare?
They either come up here to have a baby, and they get free healthcare, foodstamps, social secuirty, housing, and utilities. Some get Matricula Consular cards to sign up for utilites, they don't pay, and when the service is shut off they get a new Matricula Consular card and do it all over again.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Yes, they are criminals, taking money out of American's paychecks, bringing in drugs, and rioting. How about the government enforce the immigration laws instead of giving them welfare.
Illegals paid 24Bn into Social Secutiry in 2008, they took out less than 1Bn. They pay sales tax. They can't go on welfare, as it would expose them to deportation. How about you think your comments through instead of spouting stupid crap? Illegal aliens are an issue. After all, they allow business owners to ignore American workers who would want a fair and legal wage and instead those business owners pay them under the table avoiding payroll taxes, and little things like minimum wage and benefits. Pesky laws getting in the way of the bottom line. But hey, that's a free-market system working how it normally would. Or are you against free markets?
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ragnaroknrol wrote:
Illegals paid 24Bn into Social Secutiry in 2008
Illegals don't pay taxes you fucking moron. They don't even have fucking identities here.
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Still market forces, and corrupt business practices. And where exactly are they getting total welfare? I couldn't get shit when I was out of work and I've been here my entire life. Do they buy you a car? A house? Or do they just barely feed you and expect you to find a job with no skills, no transport and no prospects?
They can't apply for welfare. "Oh look, he's not a citizen, guess we just go to the address he provided for his checks and toss him over a border!" And I'm wondering where that total welfare comes in myself, I had to apply constantly for jobs and even with skills was lucky to get what I have. (no benefits, no time off, limited hours)
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ragnaroknrol wrote:
Illegals paid 24Bn into Social Secutiry in 2008
Illegals don't pay taxes you fucking moron. They don't even have fucking identities here.
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ragnaroknrol wrote:
Illegals paid 24Bn into Social Secutiry in 2008
Illegals don't pay taxes you fucking moron. They don't even have fucking identities here.
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And yet that was a statistic sent out by the US gov't. It appears some illegals DO pay social security with fake papers. You going to address the rest of it, or do I assume you realize I was right?
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Distind wrote:
And where exactly are they getting total welfare?
They either come up here to have a baby, and they get free healthcare, foodstamps, social secuirty, housing, and utilities. Some get Matricula Consular cards to sign up for utilites, they don't pay, and when the service is shut off they get a new Matricula Consular card and do it all over again.
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Sign me up, that's better than I get. Oh wait, that's all made up. Foodstamps require being a citizen. A baby cannot get food stamps. You know what the government does with babies that are US citizens while the parents aren't? They send them off with the parents. They aren't "anchors" and whoever has been feeding you that line hasn't dealt with it. Unless the kid is an adult, they go byebye. They are a citizen, but that don't mean jack until they are an adult. I've seen a few dozen families that had that happen in this state recently.
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Distind wrote:
And where exactly are they getting total welfare?
They either come up here to have a baby, and they get free healthcare, foodstamps, social secuirty, housing, and utilities. Some get Matricula Consular cards to sign up for utilites, they don't pay, and when the service is shut off they get a new Matricula Consular card and do it all over again.
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Given I'd rather be shot than have a child at the moment I fail to see how feeding a citizen of the US and their caretaker is such a horrible thing. Given the child(if born here) is a citizen. Comes with the territory of everyone here being a decedent of a recent immigrant, with a relatively few exceptions, and you aren't one of them.
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Link[^] Imagine the uproar if 200 Tea Party members had gone on a rampage through a downtown city, smashing windows, starting fires, and spraying graffiti everywhere, the corporate media would be all over it, and yet gangs of pro-illegal immigration demonstrators do this and much worse on a regular basis, with no national news coverage whatsoever. An Associated Press report states that eighteen businesses were damaged as pro-immigrants rights activists engaged in violent riots, spraying graffiti, smashing windows, setting fire to shop fronts, and causing damage to a cost of up to $100,000 dollars. The riot followed the announcement that pro-amnesty demonstrators would march across the country on May 1st, which is also a date on which socialists rally worldwide to celebrate Communism, euphemistically labeled “International Workers Day” by the media. These people are being used as a political weapon. They allow them to come up here by the millions, they have ancor babies so that they can stay here and get free healthcare, foodstamps, electricity, and housing all payed for by tax paying citizens. This gets them dependant on the government, so they will support the government (particularly the democrats). They also bring in most of the drugs from mexico. That is why these criminals are allowed to riot, if a tea party turned into a riot SWAT teams would be on them like you wouldn't believe, and it would be on the news 24x7. The news would be going on and on about radical militias and homegrown terrorism, and they would show pictures of misspelled signs of their infiltrators and provocateurs.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They allow them to come up here by the millions, they have ancor babies so that they can stay here and get free healthcare, foodstamps, electricity, and housing all payed for by tax paying citizens.
See the 14th amendment when it comes to what makes a citizen. "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." ^[^] You only like the parts of the constitution when it supports your political views and particular racist bends.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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And yet that was a statistic sent out by the US gov't. It appears some illegals DO pay social security with fake papers. You going to address the rest of it, or do I assume you realize I was right?
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Which works, as you aren't going to get audited for paying taxes and not claiming them. And they don't want the audit attention. Where as the magical welfare anchoring crotch bursters(also known as children) who are most likely tossed out of the country due to their parent's status seems to be complete bunk.
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Distind wrote:
And where exactly are they getting total welfare?
They either come up here to have a baby, and they get free healthcare, foodstamps, social secuirty, housing, and utilities. Some get Matricula Consular cards to sign up for utilites, they don't pay, and when the service is shut off they get a new Matricula Consular card and do it all over again.
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You're grossly generalizing this entire thing. It's idiots like you that anger people to going about dealing with this in the entirely wrong way.
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Which works, as you aren't going to get audited for paying taxes and not claiming them. And they don't want the audit attention. Where as the magical welfare anchoring crotch bursters(also known as children) who are most likely tossed out of the country due to their parent's status seems to be complete bunk.
Looks like he bravely ran away. I stand corrected, though he will ignore out comments...
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They allow them to come up here by the millions, they have ancor babies so that they can stay here and get free healthcare, foodstamps, electricity, and housing all payed for by tax paying citizens.
See the 14th amendment when it comes to what makes a citizen. "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." ^[^] You only like the parts of the constitution when it supports your political views and particular racist bends.
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They are criminals, and after due process of law they will be treated like criminals. Thank God for Arizona.
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They are criminals, and after due process of law they will be treated like criminals. Thank God for Arizona.
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Due process requires a legal arrest. Legal arrests require probable cause. Being brown is not probable cause.
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Then how exactly are they getting welfare again? I can come up with a few ways to scam mostly private charities into getting food from them without ID, but I live in an area were our immigrant 'problem' is canadian.
Distind wrote:
our immigrant 'problem' is canadian
Oooh. Man, I feel for you. Talk about the worst kind. :)
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Due process requires a legal arrest. Legal arrests require probable cause. Being brown is not probable cause.
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
Here is the law. For any lawful contact made by a law enforcement official or agency of this state or a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person. Nowhere does it say that being "brown" is acceptable as probably cause. Notice how it only applies to any lawful contact with law enforcement.
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They are criminals, and after due process of law they will be treated like criminals. Thank God for Arizona.
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Thank you for not addressing anything I said. Further proof that you cannot back up what you say with consistency and conviction. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Due process requires a legal arrest. Legal arrests require probable cause. Being brown is not probable cause.
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
ragnaroknrol wrote:
Being brown is not probable cause.
That's just racial profiling, but wait isn't that illegal too. :laugh:
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Here is the law. For any lawful contact made by a law enforcement official or agency of this state or a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person. Nowhere does it say that being "brown" is acceptable as probably cause. Notice how it only applies to any lawful contact with law enforcement.
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By the definition of that law, there is NO reasonable suspicion. Unless they speak something other than English. Which would be, you know, brown people. Lawful contact can be initiated at any time by law enforcement officers. "He was doing 51 in a 50 zone." "He was behaving suspicious." "He turned around and walked away when he saw me coming." "He was driving a vehicle well above what he should have." I was pulled over for 2 of those. My hispanic name meant I got to spend an hour next to my father's Porsche getting angrier and angrier at a cop fishing for some reason to tear apart the car looking for drugs. Don't even try to tell me cops won't abuse this.
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Distind wrote:
our immigrant 'problem' is canadian
Oooh. Man, I feel for you. Talk about the worst kind. :)
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You guys are always coming to our country and stealing our Hockey Championships!
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By the definition of that law, there is NO reasonable suspicion. Unless they speak something other than English. Which would be, you know, brown people. Lawful contact can be initiated at any time by law enforcement officers. "He was doing 51 in a 50 zone." "He was behaving suspicious." "He turned around and walked away when he saw me coming." "He was driving a vehicle well above what he should have." I was pulled over for 2 of those. My hispanic name meant I got to spend an hour next to my father's Porsche getting angrier and angrier at a cop fishing for some reason to tear apart the car looking for drugs. Don't even try to tell me cops won't abuse this.
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
Welcome to the police state. This is the type of shit I've been talking about. They have to obey the same laws we do here, and they need to get the hell out because they are here illegally, taking people's paychecks, and rioting! They are not citizens of America, they are citizens of Mexico, they don't give a fuck about rights, rights to them is access to welfare. When it comes to other people's rights, they beat the shit out of you and riot.
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