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  • C Christian Graus

    Do I need to say more ? Has ANYONE had a positive experience with an electrician or a plumber ? I wish my wife would let me just go into the roof and fix the damn fan myself. Three wires, three colors, how hard can it be ?

    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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    _Damian S_
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    Christian Graus wrote:

    Three wires, three colors, how hard can it be ?

    ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!!

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      Three wires, three colors, how hard can it be ?

      ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!!

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      Christian Graus
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      Meh. The guy I used to make chocolate with was an electrician and he'd check if a wire was live by touching it.

      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        Meh. The guy I used to make chocolate with was an electrician and he'd check if a wire was live by touching it.

        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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        _Damian S_
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        Christian Graus wrote:

        used to

        He's dead now, right? :laugh:

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        • C Christian Graus

          Do I need to say more ? Has ANYONE had a positive experience with an electrician or a plumber ? I wish my wife would let me just go into the roof and fix the damn fan myself. Three wires, three colors, how hard can it be ?

          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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          Chris Austin
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          Christian Graus wrote:

          Has ANYONE had a positive experience with an electrician or a plumber ?

          Sure. I have a complete kick ass plumber that I use. But, it took me a long time and two small claims lawsuits to find him. Not to toot my own horn, but I used to teach electronics classes so unless it is a big job I do my own wiring.

          And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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          • C Christian Graus

            Do I need to say more ? Has ANYONE had a positive experience with an electrician or a plumber ? I wish my wife would let me just go into the roof and fix the damn fan myself. Three wires, three colors, how hard can it be ?

            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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            bryce
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            umm yep we had a new dunny put in last week - bloke did a good job didnt charge much and its all good Bryce

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              Christian Graus wrote:

              used to

              He's dead now, right? :laugh:

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              Christian Graus
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              ROTFL - used to in the sense I don't work with him anymore for over a decade.

              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                Christian Graus wrote:

                Has ANYONE had a positive experience with an electrician or a plumber ?

                Sure. I have a complete kick ass plumber that I use. But, it took me a long time and two small claims lawsuits to find him. Not to toot my own horn, but I used to teach electronics classes so unless it is a big job I do my own wiring.

                And above all things, never think that you're not good enough yourself. A man should never think that. My belief is that in life people will take you at your own reckoning. --Isaac Asimov Avoid the crowd. Do your own thinking independently. Be the chess player, not the chess piece. --Ralph Charell

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                Christian Graus
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                I can totally do it, but Donna is worried about the insurance if there's a fire.

                Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  umm yep we had a new dunny put in last week - bloke did a good job didnt charge much and its all good Bryce

                  MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
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                  Christian Graus
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                  What was wrong with the old one ? We got a new one and they did not glue it down, so it rocks when you sit down on it.

                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    What was wrong with the old one ? We got a new one and they did not glue it down, so it rocks when you sit down on it.

                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                    _Damian S_
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                    There should be a screw either side of the base that you can tighten with a flat headed screwdriver... It may be hidden...

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                      There should be a screw either side of the base that you can tighten with a flat headed screwdriver... It may be hidden...

                      I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! If you like cars, check out the Booger Mobile blog | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!

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                      Christian Graus
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                      Yeah, I see that. We're going in to concrete. The issue is that they dynabolted it, but it's not solid, it has some give.

                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        Do I need to say more ? Has ANYONE had a positive experience with an electrician or a plumber ? I wish my wife would let me just go into the roof and fix the damn fan myself. Three wires, three colors, how hard can it be ?

                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                        Dr Walt Fair PE
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                        So, what exactly did you do to your PC or Mac so that it's fan is in the roof? Just curious ...

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                          So, what exactly did you do to your PC or Mac so that it's fan is in the roof? Just curious ...

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                          Christian Graus
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                          ROTFL !!! My PC IS my Mac, if you don't count the kid's computer, or notebooks.

                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            What was wrong with the old one ? We got a new one and they did not glue it down, so it rocks when you sit down on it.

                            Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                            bryce
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                            when we bought the place the cistern didnt match the dunny so the dunny didnt flush properly eventually i got sick of it and its new dunny time - wish i'd sorted it earlier B

                            MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
                            Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor

                            Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff

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                              ROTFL !!! My PC IS my Mac, if you don't count the kid's computer, or notebooks.

                              Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                              Dr Walt Fair PE
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                              So, did you kick it so hard that the fan is in the roof? :wtf:

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                                when we bought the place the cistern didnt match the dunny so the dunny didnt flush properly eventually i got sick of it and its new dunny time - wish i'd sorted it earlier B

                                MCAD --- To paraphrase Fred Dagg - the views expressed in this post are bloody good ones. --
                                Publitor, making Pubmed easy. http://www.sohocode.com/publitor

                                Our kids books :The Snot Goblin, and Book 2 - the Snotgoblin and Fluff

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                                Christian Graus
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                                So you're happy and the lemon tree is sad ?

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                                  Yeah, I see that. We're going in to concrete. The issue is that they dynabolted it, but it's not solid, it has some give.

                                  Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                  _Damian S_
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                                  You can't tighten the dynabolt any further?

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                                    You can't tighten the dynabolt any further?

                                    I don't have ADHD, I have ADOS... Attention Deficit oooh SHINY!! If you like cars, check out the Booger Mobile blog | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!

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                                    Christian Graus
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                                    No.

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                                      No.

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                                      _Damian S_
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                                      Loosen the dynabolt and try to remove it... if it comes out easy, get a new dynabolt and see how that fits... if it's like a spoon in a bowl of porridge, try a dynabolt the next size up!! ;-) Either that, or put the thin dynabolt back in with a bunch of liquid attacher of some description, let it set then do up the dynabolt...

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                                      • C Christian Graus

                                        Do I need to say more ? Has ANYONE had a positive experience with an electrician or a plumber ? I wish my wife would let me just go into the roof and fix the damn fan myself. Three wires, three colors, how hard can it be ?

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        Mark_Wallace
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                                        I don't use them. a couple of weeks ago, I finished the wiring and plumbing for my new kitchen (it was an empty room with no pipework and just one electrical outlet, before I started). Now, I've got a total of fourteen electric sockets on 2.5 mm spurs on a 6mm ring main, and fully plumbed in gas hob, sink, et al, with everything tucked away under a nice new floor and inside wall linings (with hardened steel plate over all wires and supply pipes -- something that tradesmen rarely bother with, because it's hard work and not profitable enough). And I've also added a lot of other touches that a tradesman won't give you, like putting the cut-off taps where I can operate them without being a contortionist with india rubber triple-joints and fingertips that can apply 2,000 foot-pounds of torque in awkward directions, and setting the electrical sockets on wooden plates the same size as the wall tiles, so no tiles had to be cut around them (which looks even cooler than I expected). The cost? Next to nothing. Materials are cheap enough; it's the labour costs that give you a heart attack. It ain't rocket surgery, and you don't need that many tools. Just practice a bit at cutting and bending pipes and soldering them together before committing to doing the job proper. Rewiring a fan? A couple of minutes, no risk. Even if you get it horribly wrong, all that will happen is that the power will trip out when you plug it in (so just don't plug it in on the same ring as your computer)

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                                        • C Christian Graus

                                          Do I need to say more ? Has ANYONE had a positive experience with an electrician or a plumber ? I wish my wife would let me just go into the roof and fix the damn fan myself. Three wires, three colors, how hard can it be ?

                                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                          Tom Deketelaere
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                                          Nope. I started my renovations on my apartment about 7 months ago with the intention of doing everything myself, because I had seen so called renovations done by professionals and frankly my godson of 2 years old could do a better job. And that's not even talking about the prices. I rewired and put pipes in the apartment (4 rooms) for everything and it cost me close to nothing. Had I hired someone I'm sure my entire budget for the renovation would have been spend already. Of course I have to hire a electrician to come and check everything and do the actual hooking up to the net otherwise I'll get in trouble with the government but that only takes about an hour to do so ... The renovations probably are taking longer than when I hired someone but at least I know it's been done the right way.

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