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  • L Luc Pattyn

    that is a dangerous idea; all files with sizes less than 1024B will show as 0KB, giving you the impression they are empty. Much better is rounding up like this:

    sizeInKiloBytes=(sizeInBytes+1023)/1024;

    which only shows zero when it really is zero. :)

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    Dayekh
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    I found to format it, but I'm still getting errors.. I will post update this when I work it out.

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    • L Luc Pattyn

      that is a dangerous idea; all files with sizes less than 1024B will show as 0KB, giving you the impression they are empty. Much better is rounding up like this:

      sizeInKiloBytes=(sizeInBytes+1023)/1024;

      which only shows zero when it really is zero. :)

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      I was being overly simplistic to try and find out what exactly the problem is........i would hope that anybody who is working in IT knows the relationships between bits bytes k, m, g, t.....and on and on. but yes agree with your point, i.e. never show zero unless it is actually zero.

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      • D Dayekh

        I would like to know if there is function in built that converts filesizes automatically. For instance if there is a file that is 1234 bytes, it will be represented as 1.23 KB, or if we have a file that is 1234567, it will be represented as 1.23 MB. Or anything along these lines.

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        DaveAuld
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        I have never tried it but see here for StrFormatByteSize; http://www.pinvoke.net/default.aspx/shlwapi/StrFormatByteSize.html[^]

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        • D DaveAuld

          KB = Bytes/1024, em, what else do you want to know? what exactly are you stuck with.

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          Thank you all for your input. I have finally written a function to do exactly what I need to be done. Please look at the code below and benefit from it if you wish:

              Public Function BytesFormatting(ByVal Bytes As Integer) As String
          
                  Dim FormattedFileSize As Double
          
                  If Bytes < 1024 Then
                      ''code to format fsize as KB
                      Dim dblFormatted As Double
                      dblFormatted = Bytes
                      FormattedFileSize = Format(dblFormatted, "###,###.00") + "KB"
          
                  ElseIf (Bytes > 1024 And Bytes < 1048576) Then
                      ''code to format fsize as KB
                      Dim dblFormatted As Double
                      dblFormatted = (Bytes + 1023) / 1024
                      FormattedFileSize = Format(dblFormatted, "###,###.00") + "KB"
          
                  ElseIf Bytes > 1048576 Then
                      ''code to format fsize as MB
                      Dim dblFormatted As Double
                      dblFormatted = (Bytes / 1024) / 1024
                      FormattedFileSize = Format(dblFormatted, "###,###,###.00") + "MB"
                  End If
          
                  Return FormattedFileSize.ToString
              End Function
          
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          • D Dayekh

            Thank you all for your input. I have finally written a function to do exactly what I need to be done. Please look at the code below and benefit from it if you wish:

                Public Function BytesFormatting(ByVal Bytes As Integer) As String
            
                    Dim FormattedFileSize As Double
            
                    If Bytes < 1024 Then
                        ''code to format fsize as KB
                        Dim dblFormatted As Double
                        dblFormatted = Bytes
                        FormattedFileSize = Format(dblFormatted, "###,###.00") + "KB"
            
                    ElseIf (Bytes > 1024 And Bytes < 1048576) Then
                        ''code to format fsize as KB
                        Dim dblFormatted As Double
                        dblFormatted = (Bytes + 1023) / 1024
                        FormattedFileSize = Format(dblFormatted, "###,###.00") + "KB"
            
                    ElseIf Bytes > 1048576 Then
                        ''code to format fsize as MB
                        Dim dblFormatted As Double
                        dblFormatted = (Bytes / 1024) / 1024
                        FormattedFileSize = Format(dblFormatted, "###,###,###.00") + "MB"
                    End If
            
                    Return FormattedFileSize.ToString
                End Function
            
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            Hate to be the bearer of bad news but you have a typo in your first if chunk.

            Dayekh wrote:

            If Bytes < 1024 Then ''code to format fsize as KB Dim dblFormatted As Double dblFormatted = Bytes FormattedFileSize = Format(dblFormatted, "###,###.00") + "KB"

            Surely you mean bytes here rather than kilobytes, eg.

            If Bytes < 1024 Then
            ''code to format fsize as B (bytes)
            Dim dblFormatted As Double
            dblFormatted = Bytes
            FormattedFileSize = Format(dblFormatted, "###,###.00") + "B"

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            • T The Man from U N C L E

              Hate to be the bearer of bad news but you have a typo in your first if chunk.

              Dayekh wrote:

              If Bytes < 1024 Then ''code to format fsize as KB Dim dblFormatted As Double dblFormatted = Bytes FormattedFileSize = Format(dblFormatted, "###,###.00") + "KB"

              Surely you mean bytes here rather than kilobytes, eg.

              If Bytes < 1024 Then
              ''code to format fsize as B (bytes)
              Dim dblFormatted As Double
              dblFormatted = Bytes
              FormattedFileSize = Format(dblFormatted, "###,###.00") + "B"

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              Not at all, that was intentional. However I should have been clearer. The reason that code block refers to formatting in KiloBytes is because I would like any file that is less than 1024 to be displayed as KB as well. For example a file that is 643 Bytes big will appear as 0.64KB Cheers.

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              • D DaveAuld

                I was being overly simplistic to try and find out what exactly the problem is........i would hope that anybody who is working in IT knows the relationships between bits bytes k, m, g, t.....and on and on. but yes agree with your point, i.e. never show zero unless it is actually zero.

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                daveauld wrote:

                i would hope that anybody who is working in IT knows the relationships between bits bytes k, m, g, t.....and on and on.

                Never assume this. I once heard one of our IT help desk reps ask a colleague "What exactly is hexadecimal?".

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                • L Lost User

                  daveauld wrote:

                  i would hope that anybody who is working in IT knows the relationships between bits bytes k, m, g, t.....and on and on.

                  Never assume this. I once heard one of our IT help desk reps ask a colleague "What exactly is hexadecimal?".

                  It's time for a new signature.

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                  scottgp
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                  I worked with a woman who was supposedly in IT for at least 10 years, who was previously an Oracle instructor, and asked me how to convert K to MB. Scary. Scott

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                  • D Dayekh

                    Thank you all for your input. I have finally written a function to do exactly what I need to be done. Please look at the code below and benefit from it if you wish:

                        Public Function BytesFormatting(ByVal Bytes As Integer) As String
                    
                            Dim FormattedFileSize As Double
                    
                            If Bytes < 1024 Then
                                ''code to format fsize as KB
                                Dim dblFormatted As Double
                                dblFormatted = Bytes
                                FormattedFileSize = Format(dblFormatted, "###,###.00") + "KB"
                    
                            ElseIf (Bytes > 1024 And Bytes < 1048576) Then
                                ''code to format fsize as KB
                                Dim dblFormatted As Double
                                dblFormatted = (Bytes + 1023) / 1024
                                FormattedFileSize = Format(dblFormatted, "###,###.00") + "KB"
                    
                            ElseIf Bytes > 1048576 Then
                                ''code to format fsize as MB
                                Dim dblFormatted As Double
                                dblFormatted = (Bytes / 1024) / 1024
                                FormattedFileSize = Format(dblFormatted, "###,###,###.00") + "MB"
                            End If
                    
                            Return FormattedFileSize.ToString
                        End Function
                    
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                    riced
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                    #14

                    What if file is exactly 1024 or 1048576 bytes? Not likely but not impossible, I can generate one of either size with ease. :)

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                    • R riced

                      What if file is exactly 1024 or 1048576 bytes? Not likely but not impossible, I can generate one of either size with ease. :)

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                      Luc Pattyn
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                      right. and doesn't Dim FormattedFileSize As Double deserve some attention too? :)

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                      • L Luc Pattyn

                        right. and doesn't Dim FormattedFileSize As Double deserve some attention too? :)

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                        riced
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                        Yup. But I guess he has Option Strict Off either intentionally or by default. That allows it to compile. But there's even worse when you look at it more closely e.g. a file of 1023 bytes returns 1,023.00KB. :-D He did say it was working so I suppose he tested it. :laugh:

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                          Yup. But I guess he has Option Strict Off either intentionally or by default. That allows it to compile. But there's even worse when you look at it more closely e.g. a file of 1023 bytes returns 1,023.00KB. :-D He did say it was working so I suppose he tested it. :laugh:

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                          Luc Pattyn
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                          I have finally written a function to do exactly what I need to be done. Please look at the code below and benefit from it if you wish I think he meant: no need for me to test it, just publish and wait a while. Not sure it will still do what "needs to be done" when we are through... :)

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                          • D Dayekh

                            Thank you all for your input. I have finally written a function to do exactly what I need to be done. Please look at the code below and benefit from it if you wish:

                                Public Function BytesFormatting(ByVal Bytes As Integer) As String
                            
                                    Dim FormattedFileSize As Double
                            
                                    If Bytes < 1024 Then
                                        ''code to format fsize as KB
                                        Dim dblFormatted As Double
                                        dblFormatted = Bytes
                                        FormattedFileSize = Format(dblFormatted, "###,###.00") + "KB"
                            
                                    ElseIf (Bytes > 1024 And Bytes < 1048576) Then
                                        ''code to format fsize as KB
                                        Dim dblFormatted As Double
                                        dblFormatted = (Bytes + 1023) / 1024
                                        FormattedFileSize = Format(dblFormatted, "###,###.00") + "KB"
                            
                                    ElseIf Bytes > 1048576 Then
                                        ''code to format fsize as MB
                                        Dim dblFormatted As Double
                                        dblFormatted = (Bytes / 1024) / 1024
                                        FormattedFileSize = Format(dblFormatted, "###,###,###.00") + "MB"
                                    End If
                            
                                    Return FormattedFileSize.ToString
                                End Function
                            
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                            riced
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                            I decide to benefit and wrote something that does work. :-D Try plugging yours into the Main and see what happens. :)

                            Module Module1
                            Sub Main()
                            Dim s As String = ""
                            Console.WriteLine("--- Kilobytes ---")
                            s = FormattedFileSize(1023)
                            Console.WriteLine("1023 > " & s)
                            s = FormattedFileSize(1024)
                            Console.WriteLine("1024 > " & s)
                            s = FormattedFileSize(1025)
                            Console.WriteLine("1025 > " & s)

                              Console.WriteLine("--- Megabytes ---")
                              s = FormattedFileSize(1048575)
                              Console.WriteLine("1048575 > " & s)
                              s = FormattedFileSize(1048576)
                              Console.WriteLine("1048576 > " & s)
                              s = FormattedFileSize(1048577)
                              Console.WriteLine("1048577 > " & s)
                              s = FormattedFileSize(1048576 \* 2)
                              Console.WriteLine("1048577 \* 2 > " & s)
                            
                              Console.WriteLine("--- Gigabytes ---")
                              s = FormattedFileSize(1048576 \* 1024)
                              Console.WriteLine("1048576 \* 1024 > " & s)
                            
                              Console.ReadLine()
                            

                            End Sub

                            Public Function FormattedFileSize(ByVal sizeInBytes As Long) As String
                            Dim suffix() As String = New String() {"", "KB", "MB", "GB", "XX"}
                            Dim retVal As String = "Oops"
                            Dim units As Double = sizeInBytes
                            Dim index As Integer = 0
                            Do
                            units = units / 1024.0
                            index += 1
                            Loop While units >= 1024.0

                              retVal = Format(units, "###,###,##0.000") + suffix(index)
                              Return retVal
                            

                            End Function

                            End Module

                            PS you just need to change the name of the function calls e.g. use s = BytesFormatting(1024)

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                              Thank you all for your input. I have finally written a function to do exactly what I need to be done. Please look at the code below and benefit from it if you wish:

                                  Public Function BytesFormatting(ByVal Bytes As Integer) As String
                              
                                      Dim FormattedFileSize As Double
                              
                                      If Bytes < 1024 Then
                                          ''code to format fsize as KB
                                          Dim dblFormatted As Double
                                          dblFormatted = Bytes
                                          FormattedFileSize = Format(dblFormatted, "###,###.00") + "KB"
                              
                                      ElseIf (Bytes > 1024 And Bytes < 1048576) Then
                                          ''code to format fsize as KB
                                          Dim dblFormatted As Double
                                          dblFormatted = (Bytes + 1023) / 1024
                                          FormattedFileSize = Format(dblFormatted, "###,###.00") + "KB"
                              
                                      ElseIf Bytes > 1048576 Then
                                          ''code to format fsize as MB
                                          Dim dblFormatted As Double
                                          dblFormatted = (Bytes / 1024) / 1024
                                          FormattedFileSize = Format(dblFormatted, "###,###,###.00") + "MB"
                                      End If
                              
                                      Return FormattedFileSize.ToString
                                  End Function
                              
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                              Thank you all for your input! I certainly was happy that this issue had a lot of interest. "i would hope that anybody who is working in IT knows the relationships between bits bytes k, m, g, t.....and on and on." -- knowing the relationship between bytes, KB, MB, etc.. was irrelevant as I was asking if there was a class/method that automatically did the conversions in VB.Net. And yes, I know the relationship between them :P "I think he meant: no need for me to test it, just publish and wait a while." -- Yea I'm sure all programmers are perfect testers of THEIR own code. I did some testing, but it obviously wasn't good enough. I suppose that's what learning is.. no? "What if file is exactly 1024 or 1048576 bytes?" -- Good point! I was swamped with work that I overlooked that fault. Thank you. "But there's even worse when you look at it more closely e.g. a file of 1023 bytes returns 1,023.00KB." -- Another good point. I need to address all eventualities more closely! "I decide to benefit and wrote something that does work." -- Thank you. I will work through that code. Thanks again all! This made my day.

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                              • R riced

                                I decide to benefit and wrote something that does work. :-D Try plugging yours into the Main and see what happens. :)

                                Module Module1
                                Sub Main()
                                Dim s As String = ""
                                Console.WriteLine("--- Kilobytes ---")
                                s = FormattedFileSize(1023)
                                Console.WriteLine("1023 > " & s)
                                s = FormattedFileSize(1024)
                                Console.WriteLine("1024 > " & s)
                                s = FormattedFileSize(1025)
                                Console.WriteLine("1025 > " & s)

                                  Console.WriteLine("--- Megabytes ---")
                                  s = FormattedFileSize(1048575)
                                  Console.WriteLine("1048575 > " & s)
                                  s = FormattedFileSize(1048576)
                                  Console.WriteLine("1048576 > " & s)
                                  s = FormattedFileSize(1048577)
                                  Console.WriteLine("1048577 > " & s)
                                  s = FormattedFileSize(1048576 \* 2)
                                  Console.WriteLine("1048577 \* 2 > " & s)
                                
                                  Console.WriteLine("--- Gigabytes ---")
                                  s = FormattedFileSize(1048576 \* 1024)
                                  Console.WriteLine("1048576 \* 1024 > " & s)
                                
                                  Console.ReadLine()
                                

                                End Sub

                                Public Function FormattedFileSize(ByVal sizeInBytes As Long) As String
                                Dim suffix() As String = New String() {"", "KB", "MB", "GB", "XX"}
                                Dim retVal As String = "Oops"
                                Dim units As Double = sizeInBytes
                                Dim index As Integer = 0
                                Do
                                units = units / 1024.0
                                index += 1
                                Loop While units >= 1024.0

                                  retVal = Format(units, "###,###,##0.000") + suffix(index)
                                  Return retVal
                                

                                End Function

                                End Module

                                PS you just need to change the name of the function calls e.g. use s = BytesFormatting(1024)

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                                You have some IndexOutOfRange problems... As a little VB exercise, here an alternative, spanning a larger range of values; the result is slightly different, notation is float or integer as appropriate:

                                Private Sub Button1\_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles Button1.Click
                                    Dim pow As Long = 1
                                    For i = 0 To 63
                                        Dim fraction As Long = pow \\ 32
                                        If fraction < 1 Then fraction = 1
                                        test(-pow)
                                        test(pow - fraction)
                                        test(pow)
                                        test(pow + fraction)
                                        If pow >= &H4000000000000000 Then Exit For
                                        pow = 2 \* pow
                                    Next
                                End Sub
                                
                                Public Sub test(ByVal value As Long)
                                    Dim s As String
                                    s = FormattedFileSize(value)
                                    Console.WriteLine(value.ToString().PadLeft(20) & " = " & value.ToString("X16") & " = " & s & "B")
                                End Sub
                                
                                Public Function FormattedFileSize(ByVal sizeInBytes As Long) As String
                                    Dim negative As Boolean = False
                                    Dim result As String
                                    Dim value As Long = sizeInBytes
                                    Dim remainder As Long = 0
                                    Dim suffixIndex As Integer
                                    If value < 0 Then
                                        negative = True
                                        value = -value
                                    End If
                                    For suffixIndex = 0 To 20
                                        If value <= 1023 Then Exit For
                                        remainder = value Mod 1024
                                        value = value \\ 1024
                                    Next
                                    If remainder > 0 Then
                                        Dim d As Double = value + remainder / 1024
                                        result = d.ToString("F3")
                                    Else
                                        result = value.ToString()
                                    End If
                                    If suffixIndex > 0 Then result = result & " KMGTPEZY"(suffixIndex)
                                    If negative Then result = "-" & result
                                    Return result
                                End Function
                                

                                Homework: find and fix the value(s) that still fail. :)

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                                • L Luc Pattyn

                                  You have some IndexOutOfRange problems... As a little VB exercise, here an alternative, spanning a larger range of values; the result is slightly different, notation is float or integer as appropriate:

                                  Private Sub Button1\_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles Button1.Click
                                      Dim pow As Long = 1
                                      For i = 0 To 63
                                          Dim fraction As Long = pow \\ 32
                                          If fraction < 1 Then fraction = 1
                                          test(-pow)
                                          test(pow - fraction)
                                          test(pow)
                                          test(pow + fraction)
                                          If pow >= &H4000000000000000 Then Exit For
                                          pow = 2 \* pow
                                      Next
                                  End Sub
                                  
                                  Public Sub test(ByVal value As Long)
                                      Dim s As String
                                      s = FormattedFileSize(value)
                                      Console.WriteLine(value.ToString().PadLeft(20) & " = " & value.ToString("X16") & " = " & s & "B")
                                  End Sub
                                  
                                  Public Function FormattedFileSize(ByVal sizeInBytes As Long) As String
                                      Dim negative As Boolean = False
                                      Dim result As String
                                      Dim value As Long = sizeInBytes
                                      Dim remainder As Long = 0
                                      Dim suffixIndex As Integer
                                      If value < 0 Then
                                          negative = True
                                          value = -value
                                      End If
                                      For suffixIndex = 0 To 20
                                          If value <= 1023 Then Exit For
                                          remainder = value Mod 1024
                                          value = value \\ 1024
                                      Next
                                      If remainder > 0 Then
                                          Dim d As Double = value + remainder / 1024
                                          result = d.ToString("F3")
                                      Else
                                          result = value.ToString()
                                      End If
                                      If suffixIndex > 0 Then result = result & " KMGTPEZY"(suffixIndex)
                                      If negative Then result = "-" & result
                                      Return result
                                  End Function
                                  

                                  Homework: find and fix the value(s) that still fail. :)

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                                  riced
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                                  I knew it would error for extremely large sizes and failed on negatives so here's a fix. (Not sure the negatives a right.)

                                  Public Function FormattedFileSize(ByVal sizeInBytes As Long) As String
                                  Dim suffix() As String = New String() {"Oops", "KB", "MB", "GB", "TB", "PB", "EB", "ZB", "YB", "XX"}
                                  Dim units As Double = Math.Abs(sizeInBytes) 'Fudge to deal with negatives. Should it error with neg file size?
                                  Dim index As Integer = 0

                                    Do
                                       units = units / 1024.0
                                       index += 1
                                    Loop While units >= 1024.0
                                  
                                    Return Format(units, "###,###,##0.000") + suffix(index)
                                  

                                  End Function

                                  I've not done homework for years. :)

                                  Regards David R --------------------------------------------------------------- "Every program eventually becomes rococo, and then rubble." - Alan Perlis The only valid measurement of code quality: WTFs/minute.

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                                    daveauld wrote:

                                    i would hope that anybody who is working in IT knows the relationships between bits bytes k, m, g, t.....and on and on.

                                    Never assume this. I once heard one of our IT help desk reps ask a colleague "What exactly is hexadecimal?".

                                    It's time for a new signature.

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                                    Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                                    once heard one of our IT help desk reps ask a colleague "What exactly is hexadecimal?"

                                    :omg:

                                    "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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