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Ward closures reduces time in hospital

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    According to the Regional BBC News this morning, my local NHS Hospital is to close 2 wards with a loss of 30 beds. Apparently this will reduces the amount of time patient will need to stay in hospital. I thought my logic was fairly sound, but fail to see how that conclusion was reached, but then again I'm not the CEO of a hospital being paid 100,000 GBP + per annum.

    Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real programmers don't use PL/1. PL/1 is for insecure momma's boys who can't choose between COBOL and Fortran.

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      According to the Regional BBC News this morning, my local NHS Hospital is to close 2 wards with a loss of 30 beds. Apparently this will reduces the amount of time patient will need to stay in hospital. I thought my logic was fairly sound, but fail to see how that conclusion was reached, but then again I'm not the CEO of a hospital being paid 100,000 GBP + per annum.

      Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real programmers don't use PL/1. PL/1 is for insecure momma's boys who can't choose between COBOL and Fortran.

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      If the beds ain't there, then they have fewer people in bed, then the resultant calculation People * Nights reduces. Therefore a saving. There is the mentality that there are malingerers hogging beds in the NHS, (Probably true) and that Old People are often kept in because of Social rather than Medical considerations (also probably true). There is also a consideration that fewer beds means a higher staff to patient ratio which often leads to a faster recovery. Of course this only counts in Large hospitals. Ultimately if there were no beds then the hospital would be really profitable.

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        If the beds ain't there, then they have fewer people in bed, then the resultant calculation People * Nights reduces. Therefore a saving. There is the mentality that there are malingerers hogging beds in the NHS, (Probably true) and that Old People are often kept in because of Social rather than Medical considerations (also probably true). There is also a consideration that fewer beds means a higher staff to patient ratio which often leads to a faster recovery. Of course this only counts in Large hospitals. Ultimately if there were no beds then the hospital would be really profitable.

        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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        Dalek Dave wrote:

        There is also a consideration that fewer beds means a higher staff to patient ratio which often leads to a faster recovery.

        Higher staff numbers would not necessarily give greater efficiency, potentially, the reverse might be true. Thus, are making a case for "efficiency savings" with respect to nursing staff costings.

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          According to the Regional BBC News this morning, my local NHS Hospital is to close 2 wards with a loss of 30 beds. Apparently this will reduces the amount of time patient will need to stay in hospital. I thought my logic was fairly sound, but fail to see how that conclusion was reached, but then again I'm not the CEO of a hospital being paid 100,000 GBP + per annum.

          Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real programmers don't use PL/1. PL/1 is for insecure momma's boys who can't choose between COBOL and Fortran.

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          It's a new health care paradigm called 'PalinCare'. By reducing the number of beds, the death panels can function more efficiently. ;) :-D

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            If the beds ain't there, then they have fewer people in bed, then the resultant calculation People * Nights reduces. Therefore a saving. There is the mentality that there are malingerers hogging beds in the NHS, (Probably true) and that Old People are often kept in because of Social rather than Medical considerations (also probably true). There is also a consideration that fewer beds means a higher staff to patient ratio which often leads to a faster recovery. Of course this only counts in Large hospitals. Ultimately if there were no beds then the hospital would be really profitable.

            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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            on the face of it, your logic seems sound, except you forgot the most important factor; the human one.

            Steve Jowett ------------------------- Real programmers don't use PL/1. PL/1 is for insecure momma's boys who can't choose between COBOL and Fortran.

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