The uber tablet I'd like to see
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So with all this talk about tablets and non-desktop form factors, here's what I would consider a magical revolutionary device and how I'd go about tackling it. I've been thinking about something like this for the past 3 or 4 years now, and especially since getting into 3D, I've been wishing more and more that there was something suitable. The driving idea behind the whole thing is something as simple and elegant as paper and pencil. I'd like to see something about the size of a notepad, say 8.5 X 11, with as much room as possible devoted to the screen, maybe a thumbswidth border around the screen. Couldn't be very thick either and it would have be reasonably durable. The screen would support multi-touch, as well as a full on tablet digitizer, pressure sensitivity, the whole 9 yards. It would be thick enough to support USB ports on the side, the hard drive would be SSD only. Some sort of optical drive would need to be in there as well. Or maybe not, maybe with support for USB, an external drive would be OK. Bluetooth support for external devices would be a must and it would have to exceptionally well implemented. There would be *no* physical keyboard. With the USB ports you can add that if you want it. The iPhone, I think, has demonstrated that for a number of use cases, a virtual keyboard is more than good enough. Because you've got a lot more screen real estate, you don't have to worry about scrunched fingers, it should relatively easy to make typing on it usable for most cases, and for more intensive use, you can always hook up an external keyboard. Ditto for the mouse, external if you want it, but not built in. The size means you've got something big enough to be creative with, it's big enough to easily visualize documents at 100% or near 100% resolution. The graphics should be a really solid graphics card, no crappy integrated cards - you should be able to run decent 2D/3D creative suites on this thing. The UI would NOT be just another copy of Windows. Keeping with the paper/pencil metaphor, you'd have one major window full screen. You might have tool windows here and there, but by and large you'd have one primary window. You could easily switch, and you wouldn't be limited to single tasking (from an OS stand point). Keeping the UI as uncluttered as possible would be an absolute must. Keeping the core preferences as simple as possible, with *well* thought out defaults so you can use it out of the box with as little as hassle as possible. Windows Explorer would be gone. Some so
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So with all this talk about tablets and non-desktop form factors, here's what I would consider a magical revolutionary device and how I'd go about tackling it. I've been thinking about something like this for the past 3 or 4 years now, and especially since getting into 3D, I've been wishing more and more that there was something suitable. The driving idea behind the whole thing is something as simple and elegant as paper and pencil. I'd like to see something about the size of a notepad, say 8.5 X 11, with as much room as possible devoted to the screen, maybe a thumbswidth border around the screen. Couldn't be very thick either and it would have be reasonably durable. The screen would support multi-touch, as well as a full on tablet digitizer, pressure sensitivity, the whole 9 yards. It would be thick enough to support USB ports on the side, the hard drive would be SSD only. Some sort of optical drive would need to be in there as well. Or maybe not, maybe with support for USB, an external drive would be OK. Bluetooth support for external devices would be a must and it would have to exceptionally well implemented. There would be *no* physical keyboard. With the USB ports you can add that if you want it. The iPhone, I think, has demonstrated that for a number of use cases, a virtual keyboard is more than good enough. Because you've got a lot more screen real estate, you don't have to worry about scrunched fingers, it should relatively easy to make typing on it usable for most cases, and for more intensive use, you can always hook up an external keyboard. Ditto for the mouse, external if you want it, but not built in. The size means you've got something big enough to be creative with, it's big enough to easily visualize documents at 100% or near 100% resolution. The graphics should be a really solid graphics card, no crappy integrated cards - you should be able to run decent 2D/3D creative suites on this thing. The UI would NOT be just another copy of Windows. Keeping with the paper/pencil metaphor, you'd have one major window full screen. You might have tool windows here and there, but by and large you'd have one primary window. You could easily switch, and you wouldn't be limited to single tasking (from an OS stand point). Keeping the UI as uncluttered as possible would be an absolute must. Keeping the core preferences as simple as possible, with *well* thought out defaults so you can use it out of the box with as little as hassle as possible. Windows Explorer would be gone. Some so
You do realize that you just described the iPad outside of your multitasking point - which they are working on (even if it's a gonna be a bit gimped)? You can get a USB adapter for it btw, and it does do 3D.
Jeremy Falcon
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You do realize that you just described the iPad outside of your multitasking point - which they are working on (even if it's a gonna be a bit gimped)? You can get a USB adapter for it btw, and it does do 3D.
Jeremy Falcon
Nope, the iPad is just a big iPhone. I want something significantly more advanced. The iPad has no hand writing recog. It has no stylus support It's not pressure sensitive. It's not a big enough form factor. It's got some good ideas, but it's nowhere close to be a good content authoring solution. IMHO.
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You do realize that you just described the iPad outside of your multitasking point - which they are working on (even if it's a gonna be a bit gimped)? You can get a USB adapter for it btw, and it does do 3D.
Jeremy Falcon
I think the idea was to allow for more than just apps from the Apple Store. Something that can run Windows apps, which means you could use AutoCad or various programs like that. But yeah, a lot of the description describes the iPad. Personally, I don't know why I need a bigger iPhone, since there's not much else that was added. A friend of mine already had the iPhone 3G and a Kindle and went out and got an iPad. What he wanted to do that the other two couldn't, I'm not sure...unless he wants to watch movies on a bigger screen.
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So with all this talk about tablets and non-desktop form factors, here's what I would consider a magical revolutionary device and how I'd go about tackling it. I've been thinking about something like this for the past 3 or 4 years now, and especially since getting into 3D, I've been wishing more and more that there was something suitable. The driving idea behind the whole thing is something as simple and elegant as paper and pencil. I'd like to see something about the size of a notepad, say 8.5 X 11, with as much room as possible devoted to the screen, maybe a thumbswidth border around the screen. Couldn't be very thick either and it would have be reasonably durable. The screen would support multi-touch, as well as a full on tablet digitizer, pressure sensitivity, the whole 9 yards. It would be thick enough to support USB ports on the side, the hard drive would be SSD only. Some sort of optical drive would need to be in there as well. Or maybe not, maybe with support for USB, an external drive would be OK. Bluetooth support for external devices would be a must and it would have to exceptionally well implemented. There would be *no* physical keyboard. With the USB ports you can add that if you want it. The iPhone, I think, has demonstrated that for a number of use cases, a virtual keyboard is more than good enough. Because you've got a lot more screen real estate, you don't have to worry about scrunched fingers, it should relatively easy to make typing on it usable for most cases, and for more intensive use, you can always hook up an external keyboard. Ditto for the mouse, external if you want it, but not built in. The size means you've got something big enough to be creative with, it's big enough to easily visualize documents at 100% or near 100% resolution. The graphics should be a really solid graphics card, no crappy integrated cards - you should be able to run decent 2D/3D creative suites on this thing. The UI would NOT be just another copy of Windows. Keeping with the paper/pencil metaphor, you'd have one major window full screen. You might have tool windows here and there, but by and large you'd have one primary window. You could easily switch, and you wouldn't be limited to single tasking (from an OS stand point). Keeping the UI as uncluttered as possible would be an absolute must. Keeping the core preferences as simple as possible, with *well* thought out defaults so you can use it out of the box with as little as hassle as possible. Windows Explorer would be gone. Some so
I don't think it will be long before we see the good tablets arriving. The JooJoo https://thejoojoo.com/[^] is for sale now in the uk, and i think i would have one of them over the iPad anyday. If Google/HTC come up with one and bang on android, it would be hard not to like it If Google/HTC deliver one with the ChromeOS, it would be hard not to want it.
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I think the idea was to allow for more than just apps from the Apple Store. Something that can run Windows apps, which means you could use AutoCad or various programs like that. But yeah, a lot of the description describes the iPad. Personally, I don't know why I need a bigger iPhone, since there's not much else that was added. A friend of mine already had the iPhone 3G and a Kindle and went out and got an iPad. What he wanted to do that the other two couldn't, I'm not sure...unless he wants to watch movies on a bigger screen.
The tablet I'd like to see would be capable of running Maya and Cinema4D with full hardware acceleration. It would be great to be able to manipulate 3D models using gestures.
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I don't think it will be long before we see the good tablets arriving. The JooJoo https://thejoojoo.com/[^] is for sale now in the uk, and i think i would have one of them over the iPad anyday. If Google/HTC come up with one and bang on android, it would be hard not to like it If Google/HTC deliver one with the ChromeOS, it would be hard not to want it.
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Waving? dave.m.auld[at]googlewave.comOK, based on their page, it's just the iPad, or something similar. It's for browsing the web, watching videos. I don't want that. I want something I can create stuff on. Author all my legal documents, edit all my spreadsheets, compose music, paint portraits, edit video, take notes etc. Neither ChromeOS, the various iDevices, or Win7 mobile actually address this AFAIK.
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Nope, the iPad is just a big iPhone. I want something significantly more advanced. The iPad has no hand writing recog. It has no stylus support It's not pressure sensitive. It's not a big enough form factor. It's got some good ideas, but it's nowhere close to be a good content authoring solution. IMHO.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
The iPad has no hand writing recog.
Seriously? My 6-or-7-year-old iPaq has that!
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So with all this talk about tablets and non-desktop form factors, here's what I would consider a magical revolutionary device and how I'd go about tackling it. I've been thinking about something like this for the past 3 or 4 years now, and especially since getting into 3D, I've been wishing more and more that there was something suitable. The driving idea behind the whole thing is something as simple and elegant as paper and pencil. I'd like to see something about the size of a notepad, say 8.5 X 11, with as much room as possible devoted to the screen, maybe a thumbswidth border around the screen. Couldn't be very thick either and it would have be reasonably durable. The screen would support multi-touch, as well as a full on tablet digitizer, pressure sensitivity, the whole 9 yards. It would be thick enough to support USB ports on the side, the hard drive would be SSD only. Some sort of optical drive would need to be in there as well. Or maybe not, maybe with support for USB, an external drive would be OK. Bluetooth support for external devices would be a must and it would have to exceptionally well implemented. There would be *no* physical keyboard. With the USB ports you can add that if you want it. The iPhone, I think, has demonstrated that for a number of use cases, a virtual keyboard is more than good enough. Because you've got a lot more screen real estate, you don't have to worry about scrunched fingers, it should relatively easy to make typing on it usable for most cases, and for more intensive use, you can always hook up an external keyboard. Ditto for the mouse, external if you want it, but not built in. The size means you've got something big enough to be creative with, it's big enough to easily visualize documents at 100% or near 100% resolution. The graphics should be a really solid graphics card, no crappy integrated cards - you should be able to run decent 2D/3D creative suites on this thing. The UI would NOT be just another copy of Windows. Keeping with the paper/pencil metaphor, you'd have one major window full screen. You might have tool windows here and there, but by and large you'd have one primary window. You could easily switch, and you wouldn't be limited to single tasking (from an OS stand point). Keeping the UI as uncluttered as possible would be an absolute must. Keeping the core preferences as simple as possible, with *well* thought out defaults so you can use it out of the box with as little as hassle as possible. Windows Explorer would be gone. Some so
You also need 1) Instant on - not even 2 seconds "booting" 2) 4 or more hours battery life
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Nope, the iPad is just a big iPhone. I want something significantly more advanced. The iPad has no hand writing recog. It has no stylus support It's not pressure sensitive. It's not a big enough form factor. It's got some good ideas, but it's nowhere close to be a good content authoring solution. IMHO.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
The iPad has no hand writing recog.
That falls in the realm of software. The SDK has features for it, and you can get apps to do that. http://jaxov.com/2010/04/writepad-handwriting-recognition-app-for-ipad/[^]
Jim Crafton wrote:
It has no stylus support
Which is a good thing for most people. I hate using the stylus on my phone for instance, it's a pain to keep up with. But, if you need one there are 3rd party vendors. http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-10443415-233.html[^]
Jim Crafton wrote:
It's not pressure sensitive.
Well, yeah that does suck. I think there is a 3rd party vendor for that too though. It *should* be part of the system though. http://www.techmph.com/gadgets/mobile/ipad-redefines-touch-with-its-pressure-sensitive-touchscreen.html[^]
Jim Crafton wrote:
It's not a big enough form factor.
Well ya win some you lose some. :laugh:
Jeremy Falcon
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The tablet I'd like to see would be capable of running Maya and Cinema4D with full hardware acceleration. It would be great to be able to manipulate 3D models using gestures.
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Exactly. I think this is what these companies don't get (or perhaps just don't care about). I'd like to think there's a bit more to life than just randomly browsing the web or get stock ticker updates. And I'd like something that doesn't chain me to a desk. But I realize I'm asking for too much. Next I'll want a flying car!
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You also need 1) Instant on - not even 2 seconds "booting" 2) 4 or more hours battery life
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- Instant on - not even 2 seconds "booting"
Even better, have it take you back in time 2 seconds when turning it on so you can be more productive.
Jeremy Falcon
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You also need 1) Instant on - not even 2 seconds "booting" 2) 4 or more hours battery life
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Yep. That's why I figure that any initial cost for the prototype would be absurdly expensive.
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I don't think it will be long before we see the good tablets arriving. The JooJoo https://thejoojoo.com/[^] is for sale now in the uk, and i think i would have one of them over the iPad anyday. If Google/HTC come up with one and bang on android, it would be hard not to like it If Google/HTC deliver one with the ChromeOS, it would be hard not to want it.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
The iPad has no hand writing recog.
Seriously? My 6-or-7-year-old iPaq has that!
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Yep. That's why, to me at least, the iPad was such a disappointment. They have the libraries in house. They've just chosen to make use of them.
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Exactly. I think this is what these companies don't get (or perhaps just don't care about). I'd like to think there's a bit more to life than just randomly browsing the web or get stock ticker updates. And I'd like something that doesn't chain me to a desk. But I realize I'm asking for too much. Next I'll want a flying car!
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I have high hopes for the HP tablet running Win7.
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Yep. That's why I figure that any initial cost for the prototype would be absurdly expensive.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
That's why I figure that any initial cost for the prototype would be absurdly expensive.
Yeah, I probably wouldn't get the first gen one either. By the time the 2nd gen iPad roles around it'll probably have some of the stuff it's lacking now.
Jeremy Falcon
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So with all this talk about tablets and non-desktop form factors, here's what I would consider a magical revolutionary device and how I'd go about tackling it. I've been thinking about something like this for the past 3 or 4 years now, and especially since getting into 3D, I've been wishing more and more that there was something suitable. The driving idea behind the whole thing is something as simple and elegant as paper and pencil. I'd like to see something about the size of a notepad, say 8.5 X 11, with as much room as possible devoted to the screen, maybe a thumbswidth border around the screen. Couldn't be very thick either and it would have be reasonably durable. The screen would support multi-touch, as well as a full on tablet digitizer, pressure sensitivity, the whole 9 yards. It would be thick enough to support USB ports on the side, the hard drive would be SSD only. Some sort of optical drive would need to be in there as well. Or maybe not, maybe with support for USB, an external drive would be OK. Bluetooth support for external devices would be a must and it would have to exceptionally well implemented. There would be *no* physical keyboard. With the USB ports you can add that if you want it. The iPhone, I think, has demonstrated that for a number of use cases, a virtual keyboard is more than good enough. Because you've got a lot more screen real estate, you don't have to worry about scrunched fingers, it should relatively easy to make typing on it usable for most cases, and for more intensive use, you can always hook up an external keyboard. Ditto for the mouse, external if you want it, but not built in. The size means you've got something big enough to be creative with, it's big enough to easily visualize documents at 100% or near 100% resolution. The graphics should be a really solid graphics card, no crappy integrated cards - you should be able to run decent 2D/3D creative suites on this thing. The UI would NOT be just another copy of Windows. Keeping with the paper/pencil metaphor, you'd have one major window full screen. You might have tool windows here and there, but by and large you'd have one primary window. You could easily switch, and you wouldn't be limited to single tasking (from an OS stand point). Keeping the UI as uncluttered as possible would be an absolute must. Keeping the core preferences as simple as possible, with *well* thought out defaults so you can use it out of the box with as little as hassle as possible. Windows Explorer would be gone. Some so
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I think the idea was to allow for more than just apps from the Apple Store. Something that can run Windows apps, which means you could use AutoCad or various programs like that. But yeah, a lot of the description describes the iPad. Personally, I don't know why I need a bigger iPhone, since there's not much else that was added. A friend of mine already had the iPhone 3G and a Kindle and went out and got an iPad. What he wanted to do that the other two couldn't, I'm not sure...unless he wants to watch movies on a bigger screen.
William Winner wrote:
Personally, I don't know why I need a bigger iPhone
Yeah that's one of the drawbacks for me too. I'm really eying the 4th gen iPhone for when it comes out, and as such probably won't have a need for an iPad. If I'm gonna do CAD it's gonna be a powerful desktop anyway.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jim Crafton wrote:
That's why I figure that any initial cost for the prototype would be absurdly expensive.
Yeah, I probably wouldn't get the first gen one either. By the time the 2nd gen iPad roles around it'll probably have some of the stuff it's lacking now.
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
By the time the 2nd gen iPad roles around it'll probably have some of the stuff it's lacking now.
I don't think so. I think the whole frame of mind behind the iPad is that you're just a passive consumer of content. It's not meant to be an authoring solution, or at least it really doesn't seem that way to me.
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