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    Jordy Kaiwa Ruiter
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    Alright so I presented my application yesterday to my class at school. A part of this was my ImageViewer UserControl. Now I included that it was available for free on the internet and that it was nominated for The best C# Article of April 2010. Now apparently my teacher has started this chain-mail to register here and massively vote on it. (Without me knowing). And while I do appreciate it, I don't really think that it is fair or even allowed. (Don't get me wrong, all the people are actually programmers!) So, i'm not gonna get in trouble over this right? Because thats the last thing I'm looking for :P

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      Alright so I presented my application yesterday to my class at school. A part of this was my ImageViewer UserControl. Now I included that it was available for free on the internet and that it was nominated for The best C# Article of April 2010. Now apparently my teacher has started this chain-mail to register here and massively vote on it. (Without me knowing). And while I do appreciate it, I don't really think that it is fair or even allowed. (Don't get me wrong, all the people are actually programmers!) So, i'm not gonna get in trouble over this right? Because thats the last thing I'm looking for :P

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      Luc Pattyn
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      You've put this message on C# forum first, and were suggested to put it here, which did not imply to remove it there. please don't remove any messages, it is against the forum guidelines. PS: congrats on the nomination... :)

      Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]


      I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets.


      I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page).


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        You've put this message on C# forum first, and were suggested to put it here, which did not imply to remove it there. please don't remove any messages, it is against the forum guidelines. PS: congrats on the nomination... :)

        Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]


        I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets.


        I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page).


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        Jordy Kaiwa Ruiter
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        First, sorry. I think that is the second time you told me that. Second, I never really understood that. If it is against the guidelines why implement it? (I'm still under the believe of my own forum rules, which is no double posting)

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        • J Jordy Kaiwa Ruiter

          Alright so I presented my application yesterday to my class at school. A part of this was my ImageViewer UserControl. Now I included that it was available for free on the internet and that it was nominated for The best C# Article of April 2010. Now apparently my teacher has started this chain-mail to register here and massively vote on it. (Without me knowing). And while I do appreciate it, I don't really think that it is fair or even allowed. (Don't get me wrong, all the people are actually programmers!) So, i'm not gonna get in trouble over this right? Because thats the last thing I'm looking for :P

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          Tell your instructor he's a giant anal pore (if you like, you can copy this message and sen it to him. Artificial votes for an article mean nothing, and only result in better articles NOT being selected. If I were the admin, I would eliminate your article from consideration, not because of something you did, but because of the misguided actions of your idiot instructor. If you have any integrity at all, you would request that your article be un-nominated.

          .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            Tell your instructor he's a giant anal pore (if you like, you can copy this message and sen it to him. Artificial votes for an article mean nothing, and only result in better articles NOT being selected. If I were the admin, I would eliminate your article from consideration, not because of something you did, but because of the misguided actions of your idiot instructor. If you have any integrity at all, you would request that your article be un-nominated.

            .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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            While I do agree with your statement I don't really want to be un-nominated as this was my first article here and I was delighted to see it being nominated. Sucks :X

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              First, sorry. I think that is the second time you told me that. Second, I never really understood that. If it is against the guidelines why implement it? (I'm still under the believe of my own forum rules, which is no double posting)

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              The guideline is not to remove a message when it has one or more answers, as removing it would leave a mess. With replies present, you could edit the message, and add a note: "moved to " plus a hyperlink. Without replies present, you can remove it, and it would disappear completely, which would be OK. Yes, it would be better if the "remove" widget were not shown as soon as (and as long as) replies are present. :)

              Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]


              I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets.


              I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page).


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                The guideline is not to remove a message when it has one or more answers, as removing it would leave a mess. With replies present, you could edit the message, and add a note: "moved to " plus a hyperlink. Without replies present, you can remove it, and it would disappear completely, which would be OK. Yes, it would be better if the "remove" widget were not shown as soon as (and as long as) replies are present. :)

                Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]


                I only read formatted code with indentation, so please use PRE tags for code snippets.


                I'm not participating in frackin' Q&A, so if you want my opinion, ask away in a real forum (or on my profile page).


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                Jordy Kaiwa Ruiter
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                I was under the impression that it would delete the entire thread (including all the replies). It did not! :laugh: I just read the entire thing to make sure I know all the rules here. Thanks for your explanation though!

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                  While I do agree with your statement I don't really want to be un-nominated as this was my first article here and I was delighted to see it being nominated. Sucks :X

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                  It was nominated based on false recognition - by your own admission. As a result, it shouldn't be considered. Yeah, it sucks that this has occurred, but it's your instructor's actions that created the situation.

                  .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    Tell your instructor he's a giant anal pore (if you like, you can copy this message and sen it to him. Artificial votes for an article mean nothing, and only result in better articles NOT being selected. If I were the admin, I would eliminate your article from consideration, not because of something you did, but because of the misguided actions of your idiot instructor. If you have any integrity at all, you would request that your article be un-nominated.

                    .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                    -----
                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                    -----
                    "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                    Artificial votes for an article mean nothing, and only result in better articles NOT being selected.

                    5! :thumbsup:

                    I have learnt that you can not make someone love you, all you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in. Apathy Error: Don't bother striking any key.

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      It was nominated based on false recognition - by your own admission. As a result, it shouldn't be considered. Yeah, it sucks that this has occurred, but it's your instructor's actions that created the situation.

                      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                      -----
                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                      -----
                      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                      Jordy Kaiwa Ruiter
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                      Why would it be nominated based on a false recognition. I did submit the article weeks before my presentation and It was submitted just as any other article. I did get the Average Score of 4.82/5 (29 votes) completly fair. Then again, I do agree that it's unfair to the other nominees. But i'm getting kind of tired of paying "the price" for stuff I did not commit. I'd rather suggest a recount of my votes and just remove the double IP ones. I'm grateful and quite frankly a little shocked myself that it got nominated as best C# article op Apr 2010. With that said it would be great if you could win it, but I couldn't care less if i didn't.

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                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                        Artificial votes for an article mean nothing, and only result in better articles NOT being selected.

                        5! :thumbsup:

                        I have learnt that you can not make someone love you, all you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in. Apathy Error: Don't bother striking any key.

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                        Agreed, Just to make it clear, I did NOT downvote him!

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                          Agreed, Just to make it clear, I did NOT downvote him!

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                          I never said you did! I do agree with what he said - the article should be withdrawn from consideration if you know that fraudulent voting has been occurring.

                          I have learnt that you can not make someone love you, all you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in. Apathy Error: Don't bother striking any key.

                          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                            Why would it be nominated based on a false recognition. I did submit the article weeks before my presentation and It was submitted just as any other article. I did get the Average Score of 4.82/5 (29 votes) completly fair. Then again, I do agree that it's unfair to the other nominees. But i'm getting kind of tired of paying "the price" for stuff I did not commit. I'd rather suggest a recount of my votes and just remove the double IP ones. I'm grateful and quite frankly a little shocked myself that it got nominated as best C# article op Apr 2010. With that said it would be great if you could win it, but I couldn't care less if i didn't.

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                            Jordy "Kaiwa" Ruiter wrote:

                            But i'm getting kind of tired of paying "the price" for stuff I did not commit.

                            That happens everyday - to all of us, and yeah, we're tired of it too.

                            .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                            -----
                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                            -----
                            "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                              I never said you did! I do agree with what he said - the article should be withdrawn from consideration if you know that fraudulent voting has been occurring.

                              I have learnt that you can not make someone love you, all you can do is stalk them and hope they panic and give in. Apathy Error: Don't bother striking any key.

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                              Jordy Kaiwa Ruiter
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                              Ye I know but i just wanted to put it out there ;) *Sigh* sucks! Do you actually get a little note on top if you were nominated and did not win or only if you win? Because I actually would like that to show up :cool: In all fairness I do believe that other articles in the competition are better and deserve to win it more than me. I just wanted to see where I'd end up in the end but I guess that's not a possibility now :S

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                                Jordy "Kaiwa" Ruiter wrote:

                                But i'm getting kind of tired of paying "the price" for stuff I did not commit.

                                That happens everyday - to all of us, and yeah, we're tired of it too.

                                .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
                                -----
                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                -----
                                "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                Well that may be, but this was actually a big deal to me. I don't very often get people really respecting my work. (Most people I know don't understand it!). Maybe on the next article then... X|

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                                  Alright so I presented my application yesterday to my class at school. A part of this was my ImageViewer UserControl. Now I included that it was available for free on the internet and that it was nominated for The best C# Article of April 2010. Now apparently my teacher has started this chain-mail to register here and massively vote on it. (Without me knowing). And while I do appreciate it, I don't really think that it is fair or even allowed. (Don't get me wrong, all the people are actually programmers!) So, i'm not gonna get in trouble over this right? Because thats the last thing I'm looking for :P

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                                  Surely the answer is obvious. Reply to the chain mail and ask people not to artificially vote the article high. If they wish to join CodeProject then awesome, and if they wish to vote, even better, but ask everyone to vote on each article on the articles' merits.

                                  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                    Surely the answer is obvious. Reply to the chain mail and ask people not to artificially vote the article high. If they wish to join CodeProject then awesome, and if they wish to vote, even better, but ask everyone to vote on each article on the articles' merits.

                                    cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                    Jordy Kaiwa Ruiter
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                                    I already did this so thats cool. I wouldn't have had any problems with it if they actually read all 10 articles and then voted. It's just that I don't want to win it this way.

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                                      I already did this so thats cool. I wouldn't have had any problems with it if they actually read all 10 articles and then voted. It's just that I don't want to win it this way.

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                                      :thumbsup:

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                                      • J Jordy Kaiwa Ruiter

                                        Alright so I presented my application yesterday to my class at school. A part of this was my ImageViewer UserControl. Now I included that it was available for free on the internet and that it was nominated for The best C# Article of April 2010. Now apparently my teacher has started this chain-mail to register here and massively vote on it. (Without me knowing). And while I do appreciate it, I don't really think that it is fair or even allowed. (Don't get me wrong, all the people are actually programmers!) So, i'm not gonna get in trouble over this right? Because thats the last thing I'm looking for :P

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                                        For what it's worth, I think you've done exactly the right thing here, and that's admirable. (Let's be honest, had you kept quiet there's a fair chance no one would ever have known). I would agree with John to the extent that unfair voting isn't right and does cause potentially more deserving articles to be glossed over, but insisting that the article be withdrawn is a bit extreme. You've highlighted the problem and it should be easy enough for Chris/CP to remove the votes from very new members. You got the nomination on your own, and totally deserve it in my opinion, it looks like a good article. Whatever the outcome here, keep writing.

                                        Simon

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