What to do...
-
So here I am, thinking heavily about leaving the IT industry after my current employ due to lack of work out there and a really bad current environment for developing software. Why such a bad environment? 1. No right clicks allowed in windows (Security restriction). There are other major security restrictions too that should be lifted on a developer. 2. No admin rights to databases (despite being the most knowledgeable SQL person on site). 3. Constantly getting asked to make projects cheap/free when there is no investment in tools. 4. Constantly getting asked to work outside my comfort zone. 5. Little to no likelihood of gaining another developer to assist me in learning the areas I am missing experience in. Also there is little to no time allowed to try and get up to speed on these areas.
-
So here I am, thinking heavily about leaving the IT industry after my current employ due to lack of work out there and a really bad current environment for developing software. Why such a bad environment? 1. No right clicks allowed in windows (Security restriction). There are other major security restrictions too that should be lifted on a developer. 2. No admin rights to databases (despite being the most knowledgeable SQL person on site). 3. Constantly getting asked to make projects cheap/free when there is no investment in tools. 4. Constantly getting asked to work outside my comfort zone. 5. Little to no likelihood of gaining another developer to assist me in learning the areas I am missing experience in. Also there is little to no time allowed to try and get up to speed on these areas.
Sounds like you need a Mac :)
xacc.ide
IronScheme - 1.0 RC 1 - out now!
((λ (x) `(,x ',x)) '(λ (x) `(,x ',x))) The Scheme Programming Language – Fourth Edition -
So here I am, thinking heavily about leaving the IT industry after my current employ due to lack of work out there and a really bad current environment for developing software. Why such a bad environment? 1. No right clicks allowed in windows (Security restriction). There are other major security restrictions too that should be lifted on a developer. 2. No admin rights to databases (despite being the most knowledgeable SQL person on site). 3. Constantly getting asked to make projects cheap/free when there is no investment in tools. 4. Constantly getting asked to work outside my comfort zone. 5. Little to no likelihood of gaining another developer to assist me in learning the areas I am missing experience in. Also there is little to no time allowed to try and get up to speed on these areas.
1. That's bad. Can't see how right-clicking is a security problem 2. If you don't need them, that's just the principle of least privilege, and sensible. Just because you are an SQL expert doesn't mean you get the keys to the kingdom. I know an awful lot about active directory, but I don't expect administrator access to our domain controller, because I don't need it 3. All businesses want to do more with less, especially in a recession. It would probably be no different in a new job or industry 4. That's how you expand your comfort zone. 5. Looks like you'll have to teach yourself then, and make time to do it. There's lots of people on CP who spend (read invest) their personal time and money to learn new technologies and languages.
-
So here I am, thinking heavily about leaving the IT industry after my current employ due to lack of work out there and a really bad current environment for developing software. Why such a bad environment? 1. No right clicks allowed in windows (Security restriction). There are other major security restrictions too that should be lifted on a developer. 2. No admin rights to databases (despite being the most knowledgeable SQL person on site). 3. Constantly getting asked to make projects cheap/free when there is no investment in tools. 4. Constantly getting asked to work outside my comfort zone. 5. Little to no likelihood of gaining another developer to assist me in learning the areas I am missing experience in. Also there is little to no time allowed to try and get up to speed on these areas.
Stuart Jeffery wrote:
due to lack of work out there
That will depend upon where are you (your profile says UK), what you do and if you prefer contract or permie. The contract market in London appears quite buoyant - take a look at JobServe[^] or similar.
me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven
-
1. That's bad. Can't see how right-clicking is a security problem 2. If you don't need them, that's just the principle of least privilege, and sensible. Just because you are an SQL expert doesn't mean you get the keys to the kingdom. I know an awful lot about active directory, but I don't expect administrator access to our domain controller, because I don't need it 3. All businesses want to do more with less, especially in a recession. It would probably be no different in a new job or industry 4. That's how you expand your comfort zone. 5. Looks like you'll have to teach yourself then, and make time to do it. There's lots of people on CP who spend (read invest) their personal time and money to learn new technologies and languages.
Electron Shepherd wrote:
Can't see how right-clicking is a security problem
"Normal users don't need to right click. I wouldn't even know how to right-click. Only hackers and terrorists right click."
Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
| FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server. -
So here I am, thinking heavily about leaving the IT industry after my current employ due to lack of work out there and a really bad current environment for developing software. Why such a bad environment? 1. No right clicks allowed in windows (Security restriction). There are other major security restrictions too that should be lifted on a developer. 2. No admin rights to databases (despite being the most knowledgeable SQL person on site). 3. Constantly getting asked to make projects cheap/free when there is no investment in tools. 4. Constantly getting asked to work outside my comfort zone. 5. Little to no likelihood of gaining another developer to assist me in learning the areas I am missing experience in. Also there is little to no time allowed to try and get up to speed on these areas.
Would a good raise make you succumb to accepting all the terrible cons? In contrast to your post, I, in particularly today, feel quite good about being in IT, after a meeting with a client earlier in which a feature request was made to me which can and will literally save lives.
-
So here I am, thinking heavily about leaving the IT industry after my current employ due to lack of work out there and a really bad current environment for developing software. Why such a bad environment? 1. No right clicks allowed in windows (Security restriction). There are other major security restrictions too that should be lifted on a developer. 2. No admin rights to databases (despite being the most knowledgeable SQL person on site). 3. Constantly getting asked to make projects cheap/free when there is no investment in tools. 4. Constantly getting asked to work outside my comfort zone. 5. Little to no likelihood of gaining another developer to assist me in learning the areas I am missing experience in. Also there is little to no time allowed to try and get up to speed on these areas.
Stuart Jeffery wrote:
leaving the IT industry
That's a bit drastic innit? Sounds to me you need to leave that place, not the industry. When I have really wanted a job, I have even accepted to switch and lower my income (a bit). In the long run my pay is still quite fair. Good Luck ;)
..................... Life is too shor
-
Stuart Jeffery wrote:
due to lack of work out there
That will depend upon where are you (your profile says UK), what you do and if you prefer contract or permie. The contract market in London appears quite buoyant - take a look at JobServe[^] or similar.
me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven
Here in the US it's pretty good too after looking at the search results of the site you linked to. Thanks for the link.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
-
So here I am, thinking heavily about leaving the IT industry after my current employ due to lack of work out there and a really bad current environment for developing software. Why such a bad environment? 1. No right clicks allowed in windows (Security restriction). There are other major security restrictions too that should be lifted on a developer. 2. No admin rights to databases (despite being the most knowledgeable SQL person on site). 3. Constantly getting asked to make projects cheap/free when there is no investment in tools. 4. Constantly getting asked to work outside my comfort zone. 5. Little to no likelihood of gaining another developer to assist me in learning the areas I am missing experience in. Also there is little to no time allowed to try and get up to speed on these areas.
Stuart Jeffery wrote:
No right clicks allowed in windows (Security restriction). There are other major security restrictions too that should be lifted on a developer.
Yeah, I can just imagine that conversation... Boss: "Ok, and here's where you'll be sitting. Go ahead and log in now." Me: *logs in and checks a few things* "Hmm, this mouse seems to be broken. The right button isn't working." Boss: "No, it's a security thing. We decided our users don't need to be able to right-click." Me: "Wow... You know, it's been really great working with you... And you other guys, whoever you are. I'll be going now."
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels) -
Stuart Jeffery wrote:
leaving the IT industry
That's a bit drastic innit? Sounds to me you need to leave that place, not the industry. When I have really wanted a job, I have even accepted to switch and lower my income (a bit). In the long run my pay is still quite fair. Good Luck ;)
..................... Life is too shor
I'd second that. I had to leave one place, because of similar reasons. Leave the job, not the industry. You'll be much happier doing a job that is more interesting and fulfilling.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
-
1. That's bad. Can't see how right-clicking is a security problem 2. If you don't need them, that's just the principle of least privilege, and sensible. Just because you are an SQL expert doesn't mean you get the keys to the kingdom. I know an awful lot about active directory, but I don't expect administrator access to our domain controller, because I don't need it 3. All businesses want to do more with less, especially in a recession. It would probably be no different in a new job or industry 4. That's how you expand your comfort zone. 5. Looks like you'll have to teach yourself then, and make time to do it. There's lots of people on CP who spend (read invest) their personal time and money to learn new technologies and languages.
Electron Shepherd wrote:
1. That's bad. Can't see how right-clicking is a security problem
it's what happens when you have a sys admin who doesn't really understand security and just gorged himself on buzzwords (i've met these types before, usually i just mercilessly abuse them until they give up and give me admin rights...)
Electron Shepherd wrote:
2. If you don't need them, that's just the principle of least privilege, and sensible. Just because you are an SQL expert doesn't mean you get the keys to the kingdom. I know an awful lot about active directory, but I don't expect administrator access to our domain controller, because I don't need it
totally agree, if you don't have to develop on the database, leave it alone.
Electron Shepherd wrote:
3. All businesses want to do more with less, especially in a recession. It would probably be no different in a new job or industry
i will never, ever, do my job for free or for less then what i'm worth, TNSTAFL.
Electron Shepherd wrote:
4. That's how you expand your comfort zone.
or at least get to charge extra for travel expenses (money makes the programmer go around :-D )
Electron Shepherd wrote:
5. Looks like you'll have to teach yourself then, and make time to do it. There's lots of people on CP who spend (read invest) their personal time and money to learn new technologies and languages.
while i'm all for self educating and learning by yourself, if the company want you to expend to a whole new area of expertise they should d*mn well pay for it.
-
Electron Shepherd wrote:
1. That's bad. Can't see how right-clicking is a security problem
it's what happens when you have a sys admin who doesn't really understand security and just gorged himself on buzzwords (i've met these types before, usually i just mercilessly abuse them until they give up and give me admin rights...)
Electron Shepherd wrote:
2. If you don't need them, that's just the principle of least privilege, and sensible. Just because you are an SQL expert doesn't mean you get the keys to the kingdom. I know an awful lot about active directory, but I don't expect administrator access to our domain controller, because I don't need it
totally agree, if you don't have to develop on the database, leave it alone.
Electron Shepherd wrote:
3. All businesses want to do more with less, especially in a recession. It would probably be no different in a new job or industry
i will never, ever, do my job for free or for less then what i'm worth, TNSTAFL.
Electron Shepherd wrote:
4. That's how you expand your comfort zone.
or at least get to charge extra for travel expenses (money makes the programmer go around :-D )
Electron Shepherd wrote:
5. Looks like you'll have to teach yourself then, and make time to do it. There's lots of people on CP who spend (read invest) their personal time and money to learn new technologies and languages.
while i'm all for self educating and learning by yourself, if the company want you to expend to a whole new area of expertise they should d*mn well pay for it.
randprin wrote:
i will never, ever, do my job for free or for less then what i'm worth, TNSTAFL.
Anything (person, work of art, whatever) is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. You don't get to determine what you are worth - the job market does. If no-one is prepared to pay what you think you are worth, then you aren't worth that much.
randprin wrote:
if the company want you to expend to a whole new area of expertise they should d*mn well pay for it.
But if you stay with a company for a few years, they get the benefit for those years, whereas you get it for ever. The costs should not necessarily be borne entirely by the individual, but in most cases, neither should they be borne entirely by the company. For example, training on internal company procedures is entitrely down to the company to fund; expertise that has value outside the company should have a shared cost, since it has a shared reward.
-
So here I am, thinking heavily about leaving the IT industry after my current employ due to lack of work out there and a really bad current environment for developing software. Why such a bad environment? 1. No right clicks allowed in windows (Security restriction). There are other major security restrictions too that should be lifted on a developer. 2. No admin rights to databases (despite being the most knowledgeable SQL person on site). 3. Constantly getting asked to make projects cheap/free when there is no investment in tools. 4. Constantly getting asked to work outside my comfort zone. 5. Little to no likelihood of gaining another developer to assist me in learning the areas I am missing experience in. Also there is little to no time allowed to try and get up to speed on these areas.
1. thats stupid 2. if you dont need admin rights why should you. I belive you should have only the rights needed and not a penny more 3. everyone wants that at the moment, if your on PAYE I dont see a problem in that, contract then thats a different story 4. To me that is a challenge and something I like :D 5. as everyone else has stated thats what free time can help you with, me I find trying to crack on with the project helps me learn it quicker.
Marc Clifton wrote:
That has nothing to do with VB. - Oh crap. I just defended VB!
-
So here I am, thinking heavily about leaving the IT industry after my current employ due to lack of work out there and a really bad current environment for developing software. Why such a bad environment? 1. No right clicks allowed in windows (Security restriction). There are other major security restrictions too that should be lifted on a developer. 2. No admin rights to databases (despite being the most knowledgeable SQL person on site). 3. Constantly getting asked to make projects cheap/free when there is no investment in tools. 4. Constantly getting asked to work outside my comfort zone. 5. Little to no likelihood of gaining another developer to assist me in learning the areas I am missing experience in. Also there is little to no time allowed to try and get up to speed on these areas.
Stuart Jeffery wrote:
1. No right clicks allowed in windows (Security restriction). There are other major security restrictions too that should be lifted on a developer.
The menu key doesn't work?
-
So here I am, thinking heavily about leaving the IT industry after my current employ due to lack of work out there and a really bad current environment for developing software. Why such a bad environment? 1. No right clicks allowed in windows (Security restriction). There are other major security restrictions too that should be lifted on a developer. 2. No admin rights to databases (despite being the most knowledgeable SQL person on site). 3. Constantly getting asked to make projects cheap/free when there is no investment in tools. 4. Constantly getting asked to work outside my comfort zone. 5. Little to no likelihood of gaining another developer to assist me in learning the areas I am missing experience in. Also there is little to no time allowed to try and get up to speed on these areas.
Stuart Jeffery wrote:
So here I am, thinking heavily
I first read that as "drinking heavily." Actually, I think that's the answer to your dilemma. Marc
-
Stuart Jeffery wrote:
So here I am, thinking heavily
I first read that as "drinking heavily." Actually, I think that's the answer to your dilemma. Marc
now I know where my career is going wrong im not drinking heavily :laugh: off to the pub to rectify that thanks Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
That has nothing to do with VB. - Oh crap. I just defended VB!
-
randprin wrote:
i will never, ever, do my job for free or for less then what i'm worth, TNSTAFL.
Anything (person, work of art, whatever) is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. You don't get to determine what you are worth - the job market does. If no-one is prepared to pay what you think you are worth, then you aren't worth that much.
randprin wrote:
if the company want you to expend to a whole new area of expertise they should d*mn well pay for it.
But if you stay with a company for a few years, they get the benefit for those years, whereas you get it for ever. The costs should not necessarily be borne entirely by the individual, but in most cases, neither should they be borne entirely by the company. For example, training on internal company procedures is entitrely down to the company to fund; expertise that has value outside the company should have a shared cost, since it has a shared reward.
Electron Shepherd wrote:
Anything (person, work of art, whatever) is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. You don't get to determine what you are worth - the job market does. If no-one is prepared to pay what you think you are worth, then you aren't worth that much.
sorry, i should have said "for what it's worth", rather then "what i'm worth" (and still, it's never ever going to be free, if your work has no value then either you're in the wrong field or you're not doing something worthwhile).
Electron Shepherd wrote:
But if you stay with a company for a few years, they get the benefit for those years, whereas you get it for ever. The costs should not necessarily be borne entirely by the individual, but in most cases, neither should they be borne entirely by the company. For example, training on internal company procedures is entitrely down to the company to fund; expertise that has value outside the company should have a shared cost, since it has a shared reward
the usual agreement (at least as far as i've experienced it) is that you sign up with the company for a limited amount of time (a few months to a few years) and have a fine to pay if you leave before your employment term expires. again, you were hired (and your salary and benefits negotiated) based on a set of skills and qualifications you possessed at the time of your contract signing. (for example, i would never expect a C# winform programmer to suddenly start doing DBA work, while expecting same programmer to be able to expend to WPF without complaint)
-
Stuart Jeffery wrote:
So here I am, thinking heavily
I first read that as "drinking heavily." Actually, I think that's the answer to your dilemma. Marc
-
Stuart Jeffery wrote:
So here I am, thinking heavily
I first read that as "drinking heavily." Actually, I think that's the answer to your dilemma. Marc
"You hate your job? There's a support group for that. It's called EVERYBODY and they meet at the bar." Sounds like office space, but I'm not sure
Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
| FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server. -
So here I am, thinking heavily about leaving the IT industry after my current employ due to lack of work out there and a really bad current environment for developing software. Why such a bad environment? 1. No right clicks allowed in windows (Security restriction). There are other major security restrictions too that should be lifted on a developer. 2. No admin rights to databases (despite being the most knowledgeable SQL person on site). 3. Constantly getting asked to make projects cheap/free when there is no investment in tools. 4. Constantly getting asked to work outside my comfort zone. 5. Little to no likelihood of gaining another developer to assist me in learning the areas I am missing experience in. Also there is little to no time allowed to try and get up to speed on these areas.