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    frattaro
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    I was asked if I wanted a new computer. The one I have is admittedly old (5 years old), but works like a champ. Windows XP, Pentium 4 with hyperthreading, 2.5GB ram, dual monitors. It runs concurrently VS2008, outlook, firefox, antivirus, sql server management studio and whatever else I happen to have open just fine. If it ain't broke, don't fix it? Or is it broke simply because its old? I could get a laptop and docking station and that would give me some mobility and probably equivalent performance. On the other hand it would be a Windows 7 machine and I'd have to deal with switching costs and invest the time it takes to set up a new machine. Also, I get annoyed by transparent windows. I work at a University, so the next time they ask me would be next year around this time. Not sure what to do, any suggestions?

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      I was asked if I wanted a new computer. The one I have is admittedly old (5 years old), but works like a champ. Windows XP, Pentium 4 with hyperthreading, 2.5GB ram, dual monitors. It runs concurrently VS2008, outlook, firefox, antivirus, sql server management studio and whatever else I happen to have open just fine. If it ain't broke, don't fix it? Or is it broke simply because its old? I could get a laptop and docking station and that would give me some mobility and probably equivalent performance. On the other hand it would be a Windows 7 machine and I'd have to deal with switching costs and invest the time it takes to set up a new machine. Also, I get annoyed by transparent windows. I work at a University, so the next time they ask me would be next year around this time. Not sure what to do, any suggestions?

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      Dalek Dave
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      Ask for a new Top of the Range Laptop, take it home and have it there, and continue to use your existing machine until it finally falls off its perch.

      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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        Ask for a new Top of the Range Laptop, take it home and have it there, and continue to use your existing machine until it finally falls off its perch.

        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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        Doctor Nick
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        Dalek Dave wrote:

        take it home and have it there, and continue to use your existing machine until it finally falls off its perch.

        Or say "What laptop?" when they come around to replace the current one again. :-D

        ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.. but it ROCKS absolutely, too.

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          I was asked if I wanted a new computer. The one I have is admittedly old (5 years old), but works like a champ. Windows XP, Pentium 4 with hyperthreading, 2.5GB ram, dual monitors. It runs concurrently VS2008, outlook, firefox, antivirus, sql server management studio and whatever else I happen to have open just fine. If it ain't broke, don't fix it? Or is it broke simply because its old? I could get a laptop and docking station and that would give me some mobility and probably equivalent performance. On the other hand it would be a Windows 7 machine and I'd have to deal with switching costs and invest the time it takes to set up a new machine. Also, I get annoyed by transparent windows. I work at a University, so the next time they ask me would be next year around this time. Not sure what to do, any suggestions?

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          R Giskard Reventlov
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          Nobody in the their right mind turns down a new machine. If you get to keep the old one then what have yo to lose?

          me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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            I was asked if I wanted a new computer. The one I have is admittedly old (5 years old), but works like a champ. Windows XP, Pentium 4 with hyperthreading, 2.5GB ram, dual monitors. It runs concurrently VS2008, outlook, firefox, antivirus, sql server management studio and whatever else I happen to have open just fine. If it ain't broke, don't fix it? Or is it broke simply because its old? I could get a laptop and docking station and that would give me some mobility and probably equivalent performance. On the other hand it would be a Windows 7 machine and I'd have to deal with switching costs and invest the time it takes to set up a new machine. Also, I get annoyed by transparent windows. I work at a University, so the next time they ask me would be next year around this time. Not sure what to do, any suggestions?

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            peterchen
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            Hmm... my new box brought build times down from 20 minutes to under 6.

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              I was asked if I wanted a new computer. The one I have is admittedly old (5 years old), but works like a champ. Windows XP, Pentium 4 with hyperthreading, 2.5GB ram, dual monitors. It runs concurrently VS2008, outlook, firefox, antivirus, sql server management studio and whatever else I happen to have open just fine. If it ain't broke, don't fix it? Or is it broke simply because its old? I could get a laptop and docking station and that would give me some mobility and probably equivalent performance. On the other hand it would be a Windows 7 machine and I'd have to deal with switching costs and invest the time it takes to set up a new machine. Also, I get annoyed by transparent windows. I work at a University, so the next time they ask me would be next year around this time. Not sure what to do, any suggestions?

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              frattaro
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              Thanks for the replies! I decided that a third monitor would make me a bit more productive, and, digitalman is right about being crazy to turn down a new computer. New computer specs (the University goes with Dell): Windows 7 Professional 64-bit Intel Core2 Quad 4GB ram New 24" widescreen monitor 512MB Nvidia 4-DVI port graphics card 160gb 10k rpm sata drive

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                Thanks for the replies! I decided that a third monitor would make me a bit more productive, and, digitalman is right about being crazy to turn down a new computer. New computer specs (the University goes with Dell): Windows 7 Professional 64-bit Intel Core2 Quad 4GB ram New 24" widescreen monitor 512MB Nvidia 4-DVI port graphics card 160gb 10k rpm sata drive

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                Keifiechief
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                Sounds like a decent gaming box

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                • F frattaro

                  Thanks for the replies! I decided that a third monitor would make me a bit more productive, and, digitalman is right about being crazy to turn down a new computer. New computer specs (the University goes with Dell): Windows 7 Professional 64-bit Intel Core2 Quad 4GB ram New 24" widescreen monitor 512MB Nvidia 4-DVI port graphics card 160gb 10k rpm sata drive

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                  Paddy Boyd
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                  With that spec, why are you even asking... Nice machine.

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                  • F frattaro

                    Thanks for the replies! I decided that a third monitor would make me a bit more productive, and, digitalman is right about being crazy to turn down a new computer. New computer specs (the University goes with Dell): Windows 7 Professional 64-bit Intel Core2 Quad 4GB ram New 24" widescreen monitor 512MB Nvidia 4-DVI port graphics card 160gb 10k rpm sata drive

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                    peterchen
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                    Get Moar RAM. It's a 64 bit box, after all. It needs moar RAM, and moar RAM does mkae a difference. The only advantage of the 64 bit OS is that you can use moar RAM. Also, 4GB RAM seems a bit low. (Looks like you are trying to stay in budget, though. I'd go for the 300GB Velociraptor, too. 160GB isn't that much anymore. And remember: two separate drives are the poor man's RAID).

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                      Thanks for the replies! I decided that a third monitor would make me a bit more productive, and, digitalman is right about being crazy to turn down a new computer. New computer specs (the University goes with Dell): Windows 7 Professional 64-bit Intel Core2 Quad 4GB ram New 24" widescreen monitor 512MB Nvidia 4-DVI port graphics card 160gb 10k rpm sata drive

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                      pt1401
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                      So that's where my daughter's tuition fees go...

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                      • F frattaro

                        I was asked if I wanted a new computer. The one I have is admittedly old (5 years old), but works like a champ. Windows XP, Pentium 4 with hyperthreading, 2.5GB ram, dual monitors. It runs concurrently VS2008, outlook, firefox, antivirus, sql server management studio and whatever else I happen to have open just fine. If it ain't broke, don't fix it? Or is it broke simply because its old? I could get a laptop and docking station and that would give me some mobility and probably equivalent performance. On the other hand it would be a Windows 7 machine and I'd have to deal with switching costs and invest the time it takes to set up a new machine. Also, I get annoyed by transparent windows. I work at a University, so the next time they ask me would be next year around this time. Not sure what to do, any suggestions?

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                        Kim Togo
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                        Get a new computer :-) Intel Xeon processor 64 bit 12GB RAM DDR3 80GB SSD disk (System disk) + 1TB archive drive Windows 7 64 bit And NVIDIA Quadro NVS 450 card, can connect 4 displays. Check out Dell Precision T3500 :-) Kind regards Kim

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                          Sounds like a decent gaming box

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                          Nah, Graphics too feeble for gaming ;p Seriously - I bought a desktop that almost matches these specs by the end of last year, did go with better graphics for gaming and a lot bigger hard disk. You'll only need a top end graphics cards for gaming or heavy CAD workstations, so unless you do either any 512 MB card should be fine. Also you probably need much less hard disk space if there are network drives around to put your heavy data loads (if you actually have such). As for switching to a new machine - when I installed W7 on my new machine (yes I did that myself) it was the smoothest OS installation I've ever seen! W7 is so incredibly stable even on the early releases, you can hardly believe it's really from MS! And the time to reinstall applications is well worth the smoothness and stability of the new OS. I did have 2 blue screens during the past half year, but at least one of them was due to a BIOS problem, not W7, and it's quite possible the second was as well, although I cannot say for sure. Only bad thing I noticed about W7 is it's annoying way to automatically assign sound output (and input) channels to devices depending on application, and the complete lack of documentation or intuitive ways to reassign them (if it is at all possible). One thing you have to watch out for when installing older applications is where they go: since Vista, applications are not allowed to store data at runtime into installation folders, and the whole default program installation path is such an installation folder. So any application that breaks this rule (e. g. by storing some kind of settings file, or other data) has to go to the Users\public\ folder instead. You may have to manually adapt the installation path in these cases. Most apps should work fine when installed in the default folder though, so when in doubt just give it a try.

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                            Nobody in the their right mind turns down a new machine. If you get to keep the old one then what have yo to lose?

                            me, me, me "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program. And if we become extinct because we don't have a space program, it'll serve us right!" Larry Niven

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                            ZeusT
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                            While in upgrade mode, why not see if they'll just 'throw in' VS 2010???? :)

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                              Thanks for the replies! I decided that a third monitor would make me a bit more productive, and, digitalman is right about being crazy to turn down a new computer. New computer specs (the University goes with Dell): Windows 7 Professional 64-bit Intel Core2 Quad 4GB ram New 24" widescreen monitor 512MB Nvidia 4-DVI port graphics card 160gb 10k rpm sata drive

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                              Lost User
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                              I'll get more RAM (I can sure you will use more, when you have more, you need more) the rest is fine for a work machine :)

                              Saludos!! ____Juan

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                              • F frattaro

                                I was asked if I wanted a new computer. The one I have is admittedly old (5 years old), but works like a champ. Windows XP, Pentium 4 with hyperthreading, 2.5GB ram, dual monitors. It runs concurrently VS2008, outlook, firefox, antivirus, sql server management studio and whatever else I happen to have open just fine. If it ain't broke, don't fix it? Or is it broke simply because its old? I could get a laptop and docking station and that would give me some mobility and probably equivalent performance. On the other hand it would be a Windows 7 machine and I'd have to deal with switching costs and invest the time it takes to set up a new machine. Also, I get annoyed by transparent windows. I work at a University, so the next time they ask me would be next year around this time. Not sure what to do, any suggestions?

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                                M i s t e r L i s t e r
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                                Do you lose any time using this computer? If not... keep what you have... Unless you need to be working on a new OS... then maybe a new computer is the right thing for you

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                                  Thanks for the replies! I decided that a third monitor would make me a bit more productive, and, digitalman is right about being crazy to turn down a new computer. New computer specs (the University goes with Dell): Windows 7 Professional 64-bit Intel Core2 Quad 4GB ram New 24" widescreen monitor 512MB Nvidia 4-DVI port graphics card 160gb 10k rpm sata drive

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                                  M i s t e r L i s t e r
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                                  What are the real reasons for the new computer..... Does your department "have to spend it's budget or it will lose it" ? Sign me "disenchanted with your decision"

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                                    I was asked if I wanted a new computer. The one I have is admittedly old (5 years old), but works like a champ. Windows XP, Pentium 4 with hyperthreading, 2.5GB ram, dual monitors. It runs concurrently VS2008, outlook, firefox, antivirus, sql server management studio and whatever else I happen to have open just fine. If it ain't broke, don't fix it? Or is it broke simply because its old? I could get a laptop and docking station and that would give me some mobility and probably equivalent performance. On the other hand it would be a Windows 7 machine and I'd have to deal with switching costs and invest the time it takes to set up a new machine. Also, I get annoyed by transparent windows. I work at a University, so the next time they ask me would be next year around this time. Not sure what to do, any suggestions?

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                                    MatrixDud
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                                    Some times it's best if the developer's computer is indicative of the majority of computers in the infrastructure. That was when you write and test code it will be a on the same platform as you coworkers. If your computer is slower than when testing for responsiveness you'll have an edge. However, if everyone else has Windows 7 and you're on XP then that is a problem. Best bet is to get a new PC along with a dual monitor KVM switch and keep you old machine for testing purposes.

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                                      Get Moar RAM. It's a 64 bit box, after all. It needs moar RAM, and moar RAM does mkae a difference. The only advantage of the 64 bit OS is that you can use moar RAM. Also, 4GB RAM seems a bit low. (Looks like you are trying to stay in budget, though. I'd go for the 300GB Velociraptor, too. 160GB isn't that much anymore. And remember: two separate drives are the poor man's RAID).

                                      Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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                                      MatrixDud
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                                      What is Moar RAM? Is it faster than DDR3? Just kidding...you need a spellchecker (or get Firefox).

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                                        I was asked if I wanted a new computer. The one I have is admittedly old (5 years old), but works like a champ. Windows XP, Pentium 4 with hyperthreading, 2.5GB ram, dual monitors. It runs concurrently VS2008, outlook, firefox, antivirus, sql server management studio and whatever else I happen to have open just fine. If it ain't broke, don't fix it? Or is it broke simply because its old? I could get a laptop and docking station and that would give me some mobility and probably equivalent performance. On the other hand it would be a Windows 7 machine and I'd have to deal with switching costs and invest the time it takes to set up a new machine. Also, I get annoyed by transparent windows. I work at a University, so the next time they ask me would be next year around this time. Not sure what to do, any suggestions?

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                                        CDMTJX
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                                        A 5 year old computer won't last forever. Get the new one unless your budget will allow replacing mid-year. I'm starting to use Windows 7 at home just to keep "current" in the job market. Work uses XP. And is just getting away from 2000 (ugh). Currently typing on a laptop with 2 external monitors displaying. See if you have options with a docking station for multiple monitors. My cheap station only allows one high def port, and one VGA. The laptop display is good, but tiny for my eyes for any length of time... My desktop is still usable, but I may have finally lost excuses for powering it up. Some day it'll probably be taken for a contractor...

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                                        • M MatrixDud

                                          What is Moar RAM? Is it faster than DDR3? Just kidding...you need a spellchecker (or get Firefox).

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                                          peterchen
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                                          MatrixDud wrote:

                                          Is it faster than DDR3?

                                          Rarely, but it's definitely moar! :rolleyes:

                                          Agh! Reality! My Archnemesis![^]
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