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  • R RugbyLeague

    They are sensitive souls and would never leave the house if they ever found themselves on such a list.

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    Alan Beasley
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    RugbyLeague wrote:

    They are sensitive souls and would never leave the house if they ever found themselves on such a list

    I'm not sensitive :(( :(( :(( Glad i've got WiFi here in the under stairs cupboard!!! :-D

    If I could code, I'd be dangerous... My Blog[^]

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      From todays Developer News:- top-10-things-that-annoy-programmers/[^] Personally 10,9 and 3 would be my top 3.

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      Baconbutty
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      IT Evangelists - aka Seagulls - fly in, flap around a lot, drop a load of guano, then fly off oblivious to the consequences of their involvement.

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      • K Kevin McFarlane

        Chris C-B wrote:

        Not getting paid for the code you've written

        e.g., like when in job-hunting you're given an upfront coding test to do via the recruitment agent and, in one recent case of mine, you're told it will take between 4 and 10 hours! :mad::thumbsdown:

        Kevin

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        Chris C B
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        Hmm... So I have this 700 hour project and the average test time is 7 hours. So if I break the project into a hundred small modules, and interview a hundred prospective candidates... :EvilGrin:

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        • R Rage

          AH, you obviously don't know about the garlic technique.

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          Abhinav S
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          Rage wrote:

          AH, you obviously don't know about the garlic technique.

          Thanks will try it out next time :).

          My signature "sucks" today

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          • C Chris C B

            Hmm... So I have this 700 hour project and the average test time is 7 hours. So if I break the project into a hundred small modules, and interview a hundred prospective candidates... :EvilGrin:

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            Baconbutty
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            Almost like Bob-A-Job week when I used to be in the Scouts.

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            • C Caslen

              From todays Developer News:- top-10-things-that-annoy-programmers/[^] Personally 10,9 and 3 would be my top 3.

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              Chris Losinger
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              it's all true. and funny. but i want to add another: i hate the notion that programmers are special. at least half of that list is applicable to anyone with an office job, and the much of other half is domain-specific but could easily be shifted to any most other domain. is there any job where workers enjoy shifting demands and annoying co-workers ?

              image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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              • A Alan Beasley

                RugbyLeague wrote:

                They are sensitive souls and would never leave the house if they ever found themselves on such a list

                I'm not sensitive :(( :(( :(( Glad i've got WiFi here in the under stairs cupboard!!! :-D

                If I could code, I'd be dangerous... My Blog[^]

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                Pete OHanlon
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                Alan Beasley wrote:

                I'm not sensitive

                No, you're special. ;P

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                • P Pete OHanlon

                  Alan Beasley wrote:

                  I'm not sensitive

                  No, you're special. ;P

                  "WPF has many lovers. It's a veritable porn star!" - Josh Smith

                  As Braveheart once said, "You can take our freedom but you'll never take our Hobnobs!" - Martin Hughes.

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                  Alan Beasley
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                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                  No, you're special.

                  Special needs??? :laugh: (Or not a designer) ;P

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                  • C Chris Losinger

                    it's all true. and funny. but i want to add another: i hate the notion that programmers are special. at least half of that list is applicable to anyone with an office job, and the much of other half is domain-specific but could easily be shifted to any most other domain. is there any job where workers enjoy shifting demands and annoying co-workers ?

                    image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                    Henry Minute
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                    Chris Losinger wrote:

                    is there any job where workers enjoy shifting

                    The Removals Industry?

                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” Why do programmers often confuse Halloween and Christmas? Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec.

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                    • C Caslen

                      From todays Developer News:- top-10-things-that-annoy-programmers/[^] Personally 10,9 and 3 would be my top 3.

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                      Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                      In 2b the author states, "Failing to understand that there is a time to debate system architecture and a time to get things done." This is often a catch phrase used my inexperienced idiots who are over-promoted to justify their indefensible position. Other common failings of other over promoted programmers are noticed by the constant utterance's of the following phrases: 1) We don't have enough time to do it right, just get it done 2) We don't have the budget to test 3) The architecture is perfect, 100% adherence without exception is required. (I recently used a mandated architecture that didn't support output parameters from SQL Server, nice, worse was the documentation said it did) 4) We will fix it later I have developed my own personal phrase that has become an inside joke amongst programmers I work with. First some background, in the business world, it is uncouth to ever say no. Disagreement is not allowed and neither is saying something cannot be done in a given budget/time constraint. In poorly management projects in which I have no control, I use the term, "Phase II". As in, "That is a great idea, we can fit it in in Phase II" or "Absolutely, our code should be able to support any database every written, ever, We can add that feature in Phase II".

                      Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                      • R Rage

                        AH, you obviously don't know about the garlic technique.

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                        Corporal Agarn
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                        I use the gas technique - silent but deadly! :)

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                        • C Caslen

                          From todays Developer News:- top-10-things-that-annoy-programmers/[^] Personally 10,9 and 3 would be my top 3.

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                          Gary Wheeler
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                          7: Management that doesn't understand programming The company I work for is fundamentally a hardware house, so software is our 'dirty little secret'. To give you a perspective on the attitude, about five years back a manager a couple levels up the food chain (formerly a mechanical engineer) from us told us that 'software development was not an inventive process'. Needless to say, I don't bother submitting patent suggestions. 9: Interruptions Since I do the user interfaces for our products, I seem to be everybody's first stop for problem reports. I spend an inordinate amount of time forwarding people on to the actual culprit. The machine is displaying an error message? Obviously a UI problem (the hardware could never have an actual fault). The machine won't run? Obviously a UI problem (the user didn't tell it to run by clicking the 'Run' button). The hardware is on fire? Obviously a UI problem (yes, this one actually happened). 8: Scope creep When there is no cost for marketing to request new features ('we've got to have XYZ, because everybody else does!'), and it's always engineering's fault for lack of sales ('if engineering would give us Alpha-Beta-Klepto 3.2 compatibility, we could sell hundreds of these suckers!'), requirements are always a moving target. In our world, 'waterfall development' describes the requirements more than the development process.

                          Software Zen: delete this;

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                          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                            In 2b the author states, "Failing to understand that there is a time to debate system architecture and a time to get things done." This is often a catch phrase used my inexperienced idiots who are over-promoted to justify their indefensible position. Other common failings of other over promoted programmers are noticed by the constant utterance's of the following phrases: 1) We don't have enough time to do it right, just get it done 2) We don't have the budget to test 3) The architecture is perfect, 100% adherence without exception is required. (I recently used a mandated architecture that didn't support output parameters from SQL Server, nice, worse was the documentation said it did) 4) We will fix it later I have developed my own personal phrase that has become an inside joke amongst programmers I work with. First some background, in the business world, it is uncouth to ever say no. Disagreement is not allowed and neither is saying something cannot be done in a given budget/time constraint. In poorly management projects in which I have no control, I use the term, "Phase II". As in, "That is a great idea, we can fit it in in Phase II" or "Absolutely, our code should be able to support any database every written, ever, We can add that feature in Phase II".

                            Need custom software developed? I do custom programming based primarily on MS tools with an emphasis on C# development and consulting. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." --Stephen Crane

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                            El Corazon
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                            Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                            1. The architecture is perfect, 100% adherence without exception is required.

                            [Dripping with Sarcasm]Gee... I've never had to deal with THAT one....[/Dripping with Sarcasm] ;P :jig: [Celebration]He finally left us!![/Celebration] :jig:

                            _________________________ John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others." Shhhhh.... I am not really here. I am a figment of your imagination.... I am still in my cave so this must be an illusion....

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                            • C Caslen

                              From todays Developer News:- top-10-things-that-annoy-programmers/[^] Personally 10,9 and 3 would be my top 3.

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                              El Corazon
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                              Got me pegged to the T. Order could change daily though. Depends on just how bad that particular one is right now....

                              _________________________ John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others." Shhhhh.... I am not really here. I am a figment of your imagination.... I am still in my cave so this must be an illusion....

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                              • C Caslen

                                From todays Developer News:- top-10-things-that-annoy-programmers/[^] Personally 10,9 and 3 would be my top 3.

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                                Lost User
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                                true specially 9 & 3

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                                • C Caslen

                                  From todays Developer News:- top-10-things-that-annoy-programmers/[^] Personally 10,9 and 3 would be my top 3.

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                                  spencepk
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                                  1, 8, & 10 Another thing that really irks me are comments that aren't necessary; i.e.

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                                  • C Caslen

                                    From todays Developer News:- top-10-things-that-annoy-programmers/[^] Personally 10,9 and 3 would be my top 3.

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                                    No. 4 - as I was up last night trying to fix my daughter's (Dell) laptop. It goes mysteriously blank during the boot cycle (which looked like a shutdown to the impatient) - following an unnecessarily long boot-pause with the Windows logo and animated looping "progress bar". The periodic "cleaning & polishing" of my spawn's PC's, now almost exclusively laptops, has been a ritual since the mid 1990's ! Satisfaction corner: The sick laptop, noted above, was surprisingly not infiltrated with a single virus (avast) or any malware (spybot) - so at least one of them has been listening. Also, there was FireFox, so IE has been unceremoniously dumped, too, (at Ver 6). Knowing that, at least sometimes, they were listening, does remove a bit of the frustration. For those with peaked interest - it boots faster and the black-screen delay is shorter before the cursor reappears. Also, with the re-enabled WiFi, she has at least one little light to look see at all times whilst it takes a break.

                                    Off-Topic: the online specs say it has a Intel T2050 1.6 GHz Duel Core, but a little sticker on it say "unicore" (or something like that). Does anyone know what they're talking about?

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                                    • C Caslen

                                      From todays Developer News:- top-10-things-that-annoy-programmers/[^] Personally 10,9 and 3 would be my top 3.

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                                      BC3Tech
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                                      I was hoping to see "Being asked for status" on the list, but that kind of goes in w/ #9 i suppose.

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                                      • C Caslen

                                        From todays Developer News:- top-10-things-that-annoy-programmers/[^] Personally 10,9 and 3 would be my top 3.

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                                        Battlehammer
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                                        Although all of them are on my list, 9 and 8 have to top the list. 9) My manger (who works from home half of the time) will email me on average 10 - 15 times a day. If you don't respond within minutes, she then calls and start off with "did you get my email"? Ugh! What a way to break you from debug mode.:mad: Then at the end of the day she will ask "did you get xyz done"? "How could I, I was talking to you all day?" 8) Documentation is another issue. We NEVER get documentation up front and the scope of everything we do grows as the coding progresses. Sometimes it just keeps growing and growing and we never finish. Somethng hotter comes up and the other project (which I have spent months on) gets shelved. X|

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                                          No. 4 - as I was up last night trying to fix my daughter's (Dell) laptop. It goes mysteriously blank during the boot cycle (which looked like a shutdown to the impatient) - following an unnecessarily long boot-pause with the Windows logo and animated looping "progress bar". The periodic "cleaning & polishing" of my spawn's PC's, now almost exclusively laptops, has been a ritual since the mid 1990's ! Satisfaction corner: The sick laptop, noted above, was surprisingly not infiltrated with a single virus (avast) or any malware (spybot) - so at least one of them has been listening. Also, there was FireFox, so IE has been unceremoniously dumped, too, (at Ver 6). Knowing that, at least sometimes, they were listening, does remove a bit of the frustration. For those with peaked interest - it boots faster and the black-screen delay is shorter before the cursor reappears. Also, with the re-enabled WiFi, she has at least one little light to look see at all times whilst it takes a break.

                                          Off-Topic: the online specs say it has a Intel T2050 1.6 GHz Duel Core, but a little sticker on it say "unicore" (or something like that). Does anyone know what they're talking about?

                                          /xml>

                                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                          "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek dissappointment. If you are searching for perfection in yourself, then you seek failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                          Balboos wrote:

                                          Off-Topic: the online specs say it has a Intel T2050 1.6 GHz Duel Core, but a little sticker on it say "unicore" (or something like that). Does anyone know what they're talking about?

                                          That it's horn can pierce the sky?

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