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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    The Powerball jackpot has a 1:195,249,054 probability. The next drawing has an estimated jackpot of $260,000,000. Ignoring the possibility of having to share, that seems like a pretty good bet to me.

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    Roger Wright
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    Considering that the odds of being killed by lightning are about 1:1,000,000 I suspect life insurance is a better bet. ;P As to sharing, when you take the payout in a lump sum rather than spread over 25 years, you get about half of the total. Then you get to pay extortion taxes to the state and Feds, leaving you with about 60% of the already diminished total. You'll be practically a pauper with only $78 million to show for your risk. ;P

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    • R Roger Wright

      Considering that the odds of being killed by lightning are about 1:1,000,000 I suspect life insurance is a better bet. ;P As to sharing, when you take the payout in a lump sum rather than spread over 25 years, you get about half of the total. Then you get to pay extortion taxes to the state and Feds, leaving you with about 60% of the already diminished total. You'll be practically a pauper with only $78 million to show for your risk. ;P

      "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      Roger Wright wrote:

      take the payout in a lump sum

      That's a choice.

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      pay extortion taxes to the state and Feds

      Same with other legalized gambling.

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      • R Roger Wright

        A lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math. That being said, if you can afford the long term losses it can be fun to play. Last year I hit a $2000 prize and dozens of $5 wins. This year I've hit a $200 and a $100, plus several $50 wins. I don't keep track of the more frequent wins that just cover the cost of the ticket, but overall I've been breaking even most of the time with a couple of large wins. But bear in mind - math doesn't lie. If you play, you will lose, and in the long term you will lose more than you win. The trick, like gambling, is to get lucky, win big, and quit while you're ahead. Do you feel lucky today?

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        Roger Wright wrote:

        A lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math.

        I got into this with my statistics professor in college once. He made a thorough point of just how bad the odds were. Then I pointed out that yes, the odds are bad. But my odds of winning are just as good as anyone elses. I thought the vein in his forehead was going to pop....

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          Roger Wright wrote:

          take the payout in a lump sum

          That's a choice.

          Roger Wright wrote:

          pay extortion taxes to the state and Feds

          Same with other legalized gambling.

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          RichardM1
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          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

          That's a choice.

          Almost any smart investor is going to make more with the lump sum then the lottery will count to it.

          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

          Same with other legalized gambling.

          Right, and any good gambler knows that if you can only win half as much, the payoff goes below one dollar on the dollar. Yo are back to losing by analysis. Of course, if you don't play, you won't win. And if you don't run across a highway at rush hour, you won't not get hit by a truck doing. So the only way to not get hit by a truck on the highway is to run across the highway.

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            Roger Wright wrote:

            A lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math.

            I got into this with my statistics professor in college once. He made a thorough point of just how bad the odds were. Then I pointed out that yes, the odds are bad. But my odds of winning are just as good as anyone elses. I thought the vein in his forehead was going to pop....

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            And just as bad...

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            • M Member 96

              Why does asking about the lottery bring out the most ridiculous annoying superior attitude in people? "oh I don't play the lottery, I'm not an idiot like you" Only an idiot *wouldn't* play the lottery. It's cheap, it's fun to watch the draws, in almost any area the lottery funds are used for things like hospitals and important social causes and finally there is a chance you could win. There are probably less than 6 degrees of separate between most of us and a decent sized jackpot winner. So to all you supercilious bastards out there enjoy your miserable attitudes.


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              RichardM1
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              John, Give the money to a charity, make up a set of numbers and watch the lottery drawing. Then each time you see when you would have failed, you know you got the write-off. That's about 33 cents on the dollar, which is way better than the lottery, and every time you would have been a loser, you are now a winner! You 'make' more money. You win more often. A good cause gets the money. The government doesn't steal any. Where is the down side?

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                Optional tax.

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                RichardM1
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                Not for idiots. :rolleyes:

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                • R RichardM1

                  John, Give the money to a charity, make up a set of numbers and watch the lottery drawing. Then each time you see when you would have failed, you know you got the write-off. That's about 33 cents on the dollar, which is way better than the lottery, and every time you would have been a loser, you are now a winner! You 'make' more money. You win more often. A good cause gets the money. The government doesn't steal any. Where is the down side?

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                  Member 96
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                  Some people just have no romance in their souls. :)


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                  • M Member 96

                    Some people just have no romance in their souls. :)


                    Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson

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                    RichardM1
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                    Romance. There is another thing to spend the money on. You are more likely to get lucky. ;P

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                    • R RichardM1

                      Romance. There is another thing to spend the money on. You are more likely to get lucky. ;P

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                      Member 96
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                      Already got that covered with a $10,000.00 hot tub. ;)


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                        Already got that covered with a $10,000.00 hot tub. ;)


                        Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson

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                        RichardM1
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                        Diversified investment portfolio! :laugh:

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                        • R Roger Wright

                          Considering that the odds of being killed by lightning are about 1:1,000,000 I suspect life insurance is a better bet. ;P As to sharing, when you take the payout in a lump sum rather than spread over 25 years, you get about half of the total. Then you get to pay extortion taxes to the state and Feds, leaving you with about 60% of the already diminished total. You'll be practically a pauper with only $78 million to show for your risk. ;P

                          "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                          Dan Neely
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                          That half the total is what it costs the lottery to buy the 25 year annuity. If you have anything approaching risk tolerance you're better off taking the lump and investing it in something with a better rate of return.

                          3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                          • D Dan Neely

                            That half the total is what it costs the lottery to buy the 25 year annuity. If you have anything approaching risk tolerance you're better off taking the lump and investing it in something with a better rate of return.

                            3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                            Roger Wright
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                            I know, and it's a rip-off. I know how to do annuity calculations, and at today's interest rates, 50% is far more than it should be for a premium. But since an annuity is the worst possible investment, excepting life insurance, I'll still take the lump sum despite the obvious fraud involved. I can do far better in the stock market, even in bad years.

                            "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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