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    wolfbinary
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    Were you fairly compensated at your first programming job? Wwhat year was it?

    That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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      Were you fairly compensated at your first programming job? Wwhat year was it?

      That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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      No not fairly at all. I was hired in 1983 to work part time after school programming an accounting package at a business equipment store and one thing led to another and I ended up repairing and cleaning business equipment instead.


      Yesterday they said today was tomorrow but today they know better. - Poul Anderson

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        Were you fairly compensated at your first programming job? Wwhat year was it?

        That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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        Jordy Kaiwa Ruiter
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        I think my first real programming gig was about 5 or 6 years ago. I was 14 years old and had to create Quotation Software (in PHP) for a website. I was, really, under payed back then. I got like 300 euro's out of it or something. It was fine with me back in those days. Now, luckily, i know better! Sometimes I look back at the code for lols. Jeez I was such a BAD programmer then :D Now I wouldn't even dare to sell it :)

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          Were you fairly compensated at your first programming job? Wwhat year was it?

          That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          Of course.

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            Were you fairly compensated at your first programming job? Wwhat year was it?

            That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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            1982, and considering my level of experience, yeah, I suppose it was fair...

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              1982, and considering my level of experience, yeah, I suppose it was fair...

              .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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              "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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              Jordy Kaiwa Ruiter
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              If you look at it that way, the compensation I received was quite fair too :O

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                Were you fairly compensated at your first programming job? Wwhat year was it?

                That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                Marc Clifton
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                wolfbinary wrote:

                Were you fairly compensated at your first programming job? Wwhat year was it?

                Yes, 1979 or so, I wrote a space "exploration" game for the Commodore PET in a couple weeks that my neighbor let me borrow while he went on vacation with his wife in Tahiti. He ended up marketing it under his budding "Creative Software" company and paying me royalties. Plus, I was compensated in other ways--I learned some 6502 assembly language, I learned about hardware ports and the Fairchild joystick[^], and had a great time! Marc

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                  1982, and considering my level of experience, yeah, I suppose it was fair...

                  .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                  Were you paid market wages?

                  That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                    Were you fairly compensated at your first programming job? Wwhat year was it?

                    That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                    Henry Minute
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                    I was more than fairly recompensed. It was about 1983/85 and COBOL.

                    Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” Why do programmers often confuse Halloween and Christmas? Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec.

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                      Were you paid market wages?

                      That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                      AspDotNetDev
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                      There was a market all the way back then? :rolleyes:

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                        Were you paid market wages?

                        That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                        Why would I agree to be paid otherwise? Back then, we're talking salaries (for entry level) in the range of $16,000/year. Here I am, almost 30 years later, and still making less than five times that amount.

                        .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                        "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                          Were you fairly compensated at your first programming job? Wwhat year was it?

                          That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                          I was working in a bar pretty much full time when I got offered my first programming job. I think I was fairly compensated for a junior role.

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                            Were you fairly compensated at your first programming job? Wwhat year was it?

                            That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                            Abhinav S
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                            wolfbinary wrote:

                            Were you fairly compensated at your first programming job?

                            The kind of crap I wrote, I'm glad they did not charge me anything. :)

                            My signature "sucks" today

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                              Were you fairly compensated at your first programming job? Wwhat year was it?

                              That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                              Dave Parker
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                              Minimum wage (came to around £12K a year) in 2004, mostly maintenance of several hundred (but mostly small with a few exceptions relating to timesheets, warehouse stock control and e-commerce processing) old VB6 apps but also some new C# .NET development. There was me, an ASP web developer who I think was on same amount, a network admin and IT manager within IT.

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                                Were you fairly compensated at your first programming job? Wwhat year was it?

                                That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                2008, €200 for about 45 mins of work - that wasn't really a "job", but the first time someone saw fit to give me money for programming (I had to extract some data from a broken shape file - the first 4k were complete garbage)

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                                  Why would I agree to be paid otherwise? Back then, we're talking salaries (for entry level) in the range of $16,000/year. Here I am, almost 30 years later, and still making less than five times that amount.

                                  .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                  "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  still making less than five times that amount

                                  Ouch. I'm pretty sure you're being screwed.

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                                    Were you fairly compensated at your first programming job? Wwhat year was it?

                                    That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                    Chris Losinger
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                                    yes 1993

                                    image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                                      1982, and considering my level of experience, yeah, I suppose it was fair...

                                      .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                      "The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001

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                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      1982, and considering my level of experience, yeah, I suppose it was fair...

                                      Man you guys are genius. You know I born in that year. :-)

                                      If you are not criticized, you may not be doing much. 'Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something.' Robert Heinlein (1907 - 1988)

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                                        Were you fairly compensated at your first programming job? Wwhat year was it?

                                        That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                        Maximilien
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                                        yes, 1992. I assume all first time employees feel they are underpaid; only after years of experience (and seeing new first time employees) that they understand the original low pay.

                                        Watched code never compiles.

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                                          Were you fairly compensated at your first programming job? Wwhat year was it?

                                          That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_

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                                          Ian Shlasko
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                                          Fairly? Well, it was minimum wage, but then, I was 16 years old, and it was a summer internship, writing a few tools in VB6 for a local government data processing center (Before I moved to NYC)... So I'd say it was fair, given the situation.

                                          Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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