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  • J Johpoke

    The time has come when I no longer can just copy & paste my data to create a new backup. It takes too long (and Windows Explorer can't even do it :^) ). Ive tried things like TeraCopy, Microsoft SyncToy and some others but haven't felt ready to rely on them. I'm looking for something that can copy the contents of one drive to another, overwriting what has changed. I don't want anything that has to run in the background noting any changes. It should use timestamps, or have its own database (on the backup) from the first copy. (With logging/visible info) Its around 1TB of data from SATA to eSATA. I don't mind if its foss/free/commercial (as long as its not bloated X| or too pricey). Therefore I'm asking what have you used? Does it work good? (I've looked around a lot, but would prefer to know what I'm getting) Thanks for any suggestions :thumbsup:

    //Johannes

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    Mark_Wallace
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    I have Cobian Backup.htm[^] running all the time on all machines I use, because it's so easy to set up multiple multi-directional back-ups and "live file" updates.

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      Good grief - so you had labelled backups and you knew how to run the recovery procedure? Astounding work!

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      peterchen
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      We are Backup of Nine. Deletion is futile.

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      • D Dave Parker

        Hasn't for me. It seemed good at first, but would take forever doing backups and fail most of the time (I admit my wi-fi wasn't that good though back when I was last using it). I also took a full disk image of a base installation of Windows with drivers and my configuration settings applied etc and on the one occasion I wanted to restore it (from the rescue boot CD) it kept bombing out with an out of memory error part way through the restoration. Currently I'm giving retrospect a go for backups and clonezilla for full images. Haven't tried the restoration in clonezilla yet though.

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        Rob Graham
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        Dave Parker wrote:

        (I admit my wi-fi wasn't that good though back when I was last using it).

        I wouldn't trust my wifi router enough to back up over it. I've had no issues with wired network or usb drive connections - eSata should be equally safe.

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          Dave Parker wrote:

          (I admit my wi-fi wasn't that good though back when I was last using it).

          I wouldn't trust my wifi router enough to back up over it. I've had no issues with wired network or usb drive connections - eSata should be equally safe.

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          Dave Parker
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          I'm using powerline networking now and it seems to work a lot better (in general - haven't really used trueimage and I don't think the version I have is win 7 compatible anyway, which I've since moved to). Not aloud to drill holes in the wall of my apartment so can't stick in a gigabit ethernet.

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          • J Johpoke

            The time has come when I no longer can just copy & paste my data to create a new backup. It takes too long (and Windows Explorer can't even do it :^) ). Ive tried things like TeraCopy, Microsoft SyncToy and some others but haven't felt ready to rely on them. I'm looking for something that can copy the contents of one drive to another, overwriting what has changed. I don't want anything that has to run in the background noting any changes. It should use timestamps, or have its own database (on the backup) from the first copy. (With logging/visible info) Its around 1TB of data from SATA to eSATA. I don't mind if its foss/free/commercial (as long as its not bloated X| or too pricey). Therefore I'm asking what have you used? Does it work good? (I've looked around a lot, but would prefer to know what I'm getting) Thanks for any suggestions :thumbsup:

            //Johannes

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            Christopher Duncan
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            I use a command line version of WinZip in batch files that fire off nightly via scheduled tasks (if it doesn't happen automatically, chances are good that it just doesn't happen). I realize this is a shockingly low tech solution, but having gone through decades of tape / zip / jazz / etc. devices all with proprietary software & hardware, I hit upon this as the ultimate portable solution. Since Windows now natively supports the zip format, I can plug my usb drive into any Windows machine and recover my data with no special software required. Not terribly sexy, but an extremely simple, portable and reliable solution.

            Christopher Duncan
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            • J Johpoke

              The time has come when I no longer can just copy & paste my data to create a new backup. It takes too long (and Windows Explorer can't even do it :^) ). Ive tried things like TeraCopy, Microsoft SyncToy and some others but haven't felt ready to rely on them. I'm looking for something that can copy the contents of one drive to another, overwriting what has changed. I don't want anything that has to run in the background noting any changes. It should use timestamps, or have its own database (on the backup) from the first copy. (With logging/visible info) Its around 1TB of data from SATA to eSATA. I don't mind if its foss/free/commercial (as long as its not bloated X| or too pricey). Therefore I'm asking what have you used? Does it work good? (I've looked around a lot, but would prefer to know what I'm getting) Thanks for any suggestions :thumbsup:

              //Johannes

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              onemorechance
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              I have not used it in a while (4+ years), but I have used SyncBack[^] successfully. I used to run backups to network and USB drives. I think there is a commercial (pay-for-it) version as well as freeware. Worth a shot.

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              • J Johpoke

                The time has come when I no longer can just copy & paste my data to create a new backup. It takes too long (and Windows Explorer can't even do it :^) ). Ive tried things like TeraCopy, Microsoft SyncToy and some others but haven't felt ready to rely on them. I'm looking for something that can copy the contents of one drive to another, overwriting what has changed. I don't want anything that has to run in the background noting any changes. It should use timestamps, or have its own database (on the backup) from the first copy. (With logging/visible info) Its around 1TB of data from SATA to eSATA. I don't mind if its foss/free/commercial (as long as its not bloated X| or too pricey). Therefore I'm asking what have you used? Does it work good? (I've looked around a lot, but would prefer to know what I'm getting) Thanks for any suggestions :thumbsup:

                //Johannes

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                cgh1977
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                Based on a quick Google search, have a look at: Sync Tools (wade through a few) Top Results in Sychronization Software I used Cobian a few years ago and stopped (I don't remember why). Currently, I need something similar myself but I haven't looked at anything yet. Here are some that I will be taking a closer look at: DirSync Pro (free)
                Unison (FOSS)
                All Way Sync ($19.95, free for limited personal use)
                FreeFileSync (FOSS)

                modified on Wednesday, June 9, 2010 3:50 PM

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                • J Johpoke

                  The time has come when I no longer can just copy & paste my data to create a new backup. It takes too long (and Windows Explorer can't even do it :^) ). Ive tried things like TeraCopy, Microsoft SyncToy and some others but haven't felt ready to rely on them. I'm looking for something that can copy the contents of one drive to another, overwriting what has changed. I don't want anything that has to run in the background noting any changes. It should use timestamps, or have its own database (on the backup) from the first copy. (With logging/visible info) Its around 1TB of data from SATA to eSATA. I don't mind if its foss/free/commercial (as long as its not bloated X| or too pricey). Therefore I'm asking what have you used? Does it work good? (I've looked around a lot, but would prefer to know what I'm getting) Thanks for any suggestions :thumbsup:

                  //Johannes

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                  sgtahan
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                  I've used Allway Sync[^]. Did a good job. Free until a size limit is reached. Pretty cheap for the unlimited version.

                  Steve Tahan Savannah River Site Aiken, SC

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                  • M Mark_Wallace

                    I have Cobian Backup.htm[^] running all the time on all machines I use, because it's so easy to set up multiple multi-directional back-ups and "live file" updates.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    Lost User
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                    Cobian's latest version works pretty clean - my only frustration is that it doesn't neatly label backups. My solution was to write a .VBS script that alters the simple 'backup.*' to 'ccyymmdd_backup.*' (I know, you can use macros, but it's not as simple to process - for my other requirements.) For functionality's sake, I set it to keep 15 generations - after the rename, it sorts by name and deletes each file beyond the 15th one listed). Works well - on XP, 7, Win2k3, and Win2k8. FYI, I'd previously used Comodo (didn't work well on 2k8), and fBackup (not as clean). Pair Cobian with a couple of USB External drives, set up duplicate entries (do the same backup to EACH drive each day, and ignore failures), and just swap out the drives daily - you'll always have an offsite copy. :)

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                    • J Johpoke

                      The time has come when I no longer can just copy & paste my data to create a new backup. It takes too long (and Windows Explorer can't even do it :^) ). Ive tried things like TeraCopy, Microsoft SyncToy and some others but haven't felt ready to rely on them. I'm looking for something that can copy the contents of one drive to another, overwriting what has changed. I don't want anything that has to run in the background noting any changes. It should use timestamps, or have its own database (on the backup) from the first copy. (With logging/visible info) Its around 1TB of data from SATA to eSATA. I don't mind if its foss/free/commercial (as long as its not bloated X| or too pricey). Therefore I'm asking what have you used? Does it work good? (I've looked around a lot, but would prefer to know what I'm getting) Thanks for any suggestions :thumbsup:

                      //Johannes

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                      elchalateco
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                      I've been using NovaStore Novabackup. It has never failed on me yet, fairly simple to use.

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                      • J Johpoke

                        My bad. I'm (only) on the Windows platform... Hmm, what do I do if I don't find anything :~

                        //Johannes

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                        shipstech
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                        I have had great luck with cwrsync: http://www.itefix.no/i2/node/10650[^]

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                        • J Johpoke

                          The time has come when I no longer can just copy & paste my data to create a new backup. It takes too long (and Windows Explorer can't even do it :^) ). Ive tried things like TeraCopy, Microsoft SyncToy and some others but haven't felt ready to rely on them. I'm looking for something that can copy the contents of one drive to another, overwriting what has changed. I don't want anything that has to run in the background noting any changes. It should use timestamps, or have its own database (on the backup) from the first copy. (With logging/visible info) Its around 1TB of data from SATA to eSATA. I don't mind if its foss/free/commercial (as long as its not bloated X| or too pricey). Therefore I'm asking what have you used? Does it work good? (I've looked around a lot, but would prefer to know what I'm getting) Thanks for any suggestions :thumbsup:

                          //Johannes

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                          crab
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                          Robocopy will do everything you need. Combine that with 7-zip and Bob's your uncle.

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                            xcopy source destination /s /y

                            One had to say it...

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                            D:\robocopy >destination> /S /XF pagefile.sys *.tmp $RECYCLE.BIN /MAXAGE:2 /R:0 /LOG:d:logfile

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                            • O onemorechance

                              I have not used it in a while (4+ years), but I have used SyncBack[^] successfully. I used to run backups to network and USB drives. I think there is a commercial (pay-for-it) version as well as freeware. Worth a shot.

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                              Mike Naughton
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                              I have been using GoodSync (http://www.goodsync.com/) for about a year, and I'm very happy with it. I use it with a thumb drive to sync my laptop with my desktop -- one of its really nice features is that it will sync both ways (so if I forget and change something in one place it won't overwrite the changes but will sync them back to the other place). If there's a conflict (something changed in both places) it warns me and does nothing until I choose which direction should win. It's pretty cheap for what it does -- you need one license for each machine you run it on, but they were running a deal where I got the second license for very cheap. I recommend it highly.

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                              • J Johpoke

                                The time has come when I no longer can just copy & paste my data to create a new backup. It takes too long (and Windows Explorer can't even do it :^) ). Ive tried things like TeraCopy, Microsoft SyncToy and some others but haven't felt ready to rely on them. I'm looking for something that can copy the contents of one drive to another, overwriting what has changed. I don't want anything that has to run in the background noting any changes. It should use timestamps, or have its own database (on the backup) from the first copy. (With logging/visible info) Its around 1TB of data from SATA to eSATA. I don't mind if its foss/free/commercial (as long as its not bloated X| or too pricey). Therefore I'm asking what have you used? Does it work good? (I've looked around a lot, but would prefer to know what I'm getting) Thanks for any suggestions :thumbsup:

                                //Johannes

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                                Hans van der Horst
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                                Using Super Flexible File Synchronizer- www.superflexible.com, cheep and works like a dream.

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                                • J Johpoke

                                  The time has come when I no longer can just copy & paste my data to create a new backup. It takes too long (and Windows Explorer can't even do it :^) ). Ive tried things like TeraCopy, Microsoft SyncToy and some others but haven't felt ready to rely on them. I'm looking for something that can copy the contents of one drive to another, overwriting what has changed. I don't want anything that has to run in the background noting any changes. It should use timestamps, or have its own database (on the backup) from the first copy. (With logging/visible info) Its around 1TB of data from SATA to eSATA. I don't mind if its foss/free/commercial (as long as its not bloated X| or too pricey). Therefore I'm asking what have you used? Does it work good? (I've looked around a lot, but would prefer to know what I'm getting) Thanks for any suggestions :thumbsup:

                                  //Johannes

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                                  I've used SyncBackSE from 2brightsparks.com to sync my home and work desktops via USB key daily and my entire data partition via external USB drive (bi-weekly or so) for almost four years now. For my purposes it works great, serving as both sync and backup, maintaining all of my data on three drives. It performs well and has more settings than you can imagine! What's more, many of them are actually useful! There are now three versions, free and two paid tiers. Definitely worth downloading the free version to gauge whether the performance will meet your needs...

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                                  • J Johpoke

                                    The time has come when I no longer can just copy & paste my data to create a new backup. It takes too long (and Windows Explorer can't even do it :^) ). Ive tried things like TeraCopy, Microsoft SyncToy and some others but haven't felt ready to rely on them. I'm looking for something that can copy the contents of one drive to another, overwriting what has changed. I don't want anything that has to run in the background noting any changes. It should use timestamps, or have its own database (on the backup) from the first copy. (With logging/visible info) Its around 1TB of data from SATA to eSATA. I don't mind if its foss/free/commercial (as long as its not bloated X| or too pricey). Therefore I'm asking what have you used? Does it work good? (I've looked around a lot, but would prefer to know what I'm getting) Thanks for any suggestions :thumbsup:

                                    //Johannes

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                                    Steven Quick
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                                    Robocopy is actually pretty good for this, included in Vista, 7, 2003 and 2008. MS resource kit version can be downloaded for older OSes. Basically create a bat file with the command and options you want. Example: Mirror D: to E: with retries, logging and skipping some junk files & folders

                                    robocopy D: E: /ZB /MIR /R:3 /W:5 /NS /NC /NDL /NP /XD RECYCLER "System Volume Information" /XF *".DS_Store" /LOG+:%Date:~-4,4%%Date:~-7,2%%Date:~-10,2%_Backup.txt

                                    Alternatively there is a new GUI for robocopy called RichCopy http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2009.04.utilityspotlight.aspx[^]

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                                    • J Johpoke

                                      The time has come when I no longer can just copy & paste my data to create a new backup. It takes too long (and Windows Explorer can't even do it :^) ). Ive tried things like TeraCopy, Microsoft SyncToy and some others but haven't felt ready to rely on them. I'm looking for something that can copy the contents of one drive to another, overwriting what has changed. I don't want anything that has to run in the background noting any changes. It should use timestamps, or have its own database (on the backup) from the first copy. (With logging/visible info) Its around 1TB of data from SATA to eSATA. I don't mind if its foss/free/commercial (as long as its not bloated X| or too pricey). Therefore I'm asking what have you used? Does it work good? (I've looked around a lot, but would prefer to know what I'm getting) Thanks for any suggestions :thumbsup:

                                      //Johannes

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                                      chrisb44
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                                      I've had no problems with Windows Home Server - it backs up everything each night. I've even restored a computer from it. It just seems to work...

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                                      • J Johpoke

                                        My bad. I'm (only) on the Windows platform... Hmm, what do I do if I don't find anything :~

                                        //Johannes

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                                        gregthecanuck
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                                        Don't mess around. If you can afford it set up a PC with Windows Home Server. It does a nice job of backing up, plus much more. For example, it enables remote access to your PC, has add-ins for "cloud" backups, does streaming, file sharing, etc... The nicest thing is the restore is very good. If you PC completely explodes it makes it very easy to do a complete restore. Otherwise you can drill-down through your backup archives and do selective restores.

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                                          xcopy source destination /s /y

                                          One had to say it...

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                                          I know this reply might seem COY - but you know what.. if you make a reasonable batch file, you get a problem free back up, only does new and changed files, and keeps a log. If you combine this solution with the ZIP file solution someone recommended below in another comment ( WinZip's command line tool is pretty sweet - I bought it a while back and used it on a system where a lot of ZIP file thrashing was needed and it worked great) I make a Batch file that dumps files and date time stamps to a log so I can check that it's working etc. I delete the log from time to time... and I set up the Windows Schedular to fire off this batch file at a time I'm usually in bed sleeping. Works Great. Here is my batch file verbatim:

                                          echo ------ BEGIN BACKUP >> f:\backup.log
                                          date /t >> f:\backup.log
                                          echo ------ BEGIN BACKUP >> f:\backup.log

                                          echo ------ BEGIN BACKUP GFX >> f:\backup.log
                                          REM md e:\zcdgfx
                                          REM xcopy f:\zcdgfx\. e:\zcdgfx\. /s /e /c /d /y >> f:\backup.log
                                          echo ------ END BACKUP GFX >> f:\backup.log

                                          rem echo ------ BEGIN BACKUP LINUX X01 FOLDERS >> f:\backup.log
                                          rem xcopy x:\. f:\xfiles\. /s /e /c /d /y >> f:\backup.log
                                          rem md e:\xfiles
                                          rem xcopy f:\xfiles\. e:\xfiles\. /s /e /c /d /y >> f:\backup.log
                                          rem echo ------ END BACKUP LINUX X01 FOLDERS >> f:\backup.log

                                          echo ------ BEGIN BACKUP DEV02 Documents and Settings folder DATA >> f:\backup.log
                                          echo Backing up Documents and Settings folder
                                          xcopy "C:\Documents and Settings\Jason\." "f:\files\home\DRIVE_C_BACKUP\docs_n_settings\." /s /e /c /d /y
                                          echo ------ END BACKUP DEV02 Documents and Settings folder DATA >> f:\backup.log

                                          echo ------ BEGIN BACKUP DEV02 F: FILES FOLDER >> f:\backup.log
                                          md e:\files
                                          xcopy f:\files\. e:\files\. /s /e /c /d /y >> f:\backup.log
                                          echo ------ END BACKUP DEV02 F: FILES FOLDER >> f:\backup.log

                                          echo ------ END BACKUP >> f:\backup.log
                                          date /t >> f:\backup.log
                                          echo ------ END BACKUP >> f:\backup.log
                                          echo . >> f:\backup.log
                                          echo . >> f:\backup.log
                                          echo . >> f:\backup.log

                                          Know way too many languages... master of none!

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