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  • D Dalek Dave

    In this case baring is to mean opening oneself, from the latin nudatum, or from the greek gymnos. It means to hide nothing. Nude simply means unhidden, as opposed to naked which means unsworded. Americans usually misunderstand words. I notice this most when American websites ask for Gender, sometimes i just don't know. Sometimes I am masculine and sometimes feminine. My sex, however, remains unchanged.

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    Luc Pattyn
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    Dalek Dave wrote:

    baring is to mean opening oneself, from the latin nudatum, or from the greek gymnos.

    nudus, nudo, nuditas are latin words I remember. nudatum is unknown to me. They, together with γυμνος (still alive in gymnasium), share the semantics, not the etymology AFAIK with your bare/uncover.

    Dalek Dave wrote:

    Americans usually misunderstand words

    They also carry guns, not swords. :)

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    • D Dalek Dave

      I have been offered a new oversight. "Site cost manager" I am not sure i want this. Hence "Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes" (which is usually inaccurately translated as 'beware greeks bearing gifts') Although, as I think of it, the Trojan horse was not actually Trojan, the greek tag was actually latin, as the greeks would never be suggesting be waring of themselves, if one one could use that participle, be waring that is, and it is clearly latin, not because timeo ends in o, because the greek first person also ends in o, though actually there is a greek word tim e o, meaning 'I Honour', but the os ending is nominitive singular termination of the second declencion in greek and an accusitive plural in latin, of course, although Danios is not only the greek for 'Greek', but also the latin for 'Greek', it is very intesting.

      ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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      Vikram A Punathambekar
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      Also, I think you meant "bearing gifts" unless... you swing the other way. ;P

      Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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        Also, I think you meant "bearing gifts" unless... you swing the other way. ;P

        Cheers, Vikram. (Got my troika of CCCs!)

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        Dr Walt Fair PE
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        Actually, I think his message is quite clear. He's going to be in charge of a department full of ladies all baring themselves. Apparently some are Latinas and he can't understand everything, since it all sounds like Greek, but besides declensions and cases, it's going to cost him a lot in Trojans to manage things.

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        • D Dalek Dave

          I have been offered a new oversight. "Site cost manager" I am not sure i want this. Hence "Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes" (which is usually inaccurately translated as 'beware greeks bearing gifts') Although, as I think of it, the Trojan horse was not actually Trojan, the greek tag was actually latin, as the greeks would never be suggesting be waring of themselves, if one one could use that participle, be waring that is, and it is clearly latin, not because timeo ends in o, because the greek first person also ends in o, though actually there is a greek word tim e o, meaning 'I Honour', but the os ending is nominitive singular termination of the second declencion in greek and an accusitive plural in latin, of course, although Danios is not only the greek for 'Greek', but also the latin for 'Greek', it is very intesting.

          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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          Dalek Dave wrote:

          Although, as I think of it, the Trojan horse was not actually Trojan

          It was made in Troy, and it was used exclusively in Troy -- what more do you need, a Trojan driving license?

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            Dalek Dave wrote:

            Although, as I think of it, the Trojan horse was not actually Trojan, the greek tag was actually latin, as the greeks would never be suggesting be waring of themselves, if one one could use that participle, be waring that is, and it is clearly latin, not because timeo ends in o, because the greek first person also ends in o, though actually there is a greek word tim e o, meaning 'I Honour', but the os ending is nominitive singular termination of the second declencion in greek and an accusitive plural in latin, of course, although Danios is not only the greek for 'Greek', but also the latin for 'Greek', it is very intesting.

            That "sentence" just made my head explode.

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            aspdotnetdev wrote:

            That "sentence" just made my head explode.

            People who constantly complain about bad drivers are usually the worst drivers on the road.

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            • M Mark_Wallace

              Dalek Dave wrote:

              Although, as I think of it, the Trojan horse was not actually Trojan

              It was made in Troy, and it was used exclusively in Troy -- what more do you need, a Trojan driving license?

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              It was made by the greeks and placed outside the city of troy in order to sneak in the greek army. So actually it was a greek horse, not a trojan horse. Let me just check that driving license.

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              • D Dalek Dave

                I have been offered a new oversight. "Site cost manager" I am not sure i want this. Hence "Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes" (which is usually inaccurately translated as 'beware greeks bearing gifts') Although, as I think of it, the Trojan horse was not actually Trojan, the greek tag was actually latin, as the greeks would never be suggesting be waring of themselves, if one one could use that participle, be waring that is, and it is clearly latin, not because timeo ends in o, because the greek first person also ends in o, though actually there is a greek word tim e o, meaning 'I Honour', but the os ending is nominitive singular termination of the second declencion in greek and an accusitive plural in latin, of course, although Danios is not only the greek for 'Greek', but also the latin for 'Greek', it is very intesting.

                ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                Dalek Dave wrote:

                (which is usually inaccurately translated as 'beware greeks bearing gifts')

                I like better "beware greeks and folks bearing gifts". :)

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                  Dalek Dave wrote:

                  Although, as I think of it, the Trojan horse was not actually Trojan

                  It was made in Troy, and it was used exclusively in Troy -- what more do you need, a Trojan driving license?

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  CPallini
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                  Actually on the small label they found: "Made in China". :rolleyes:

                  If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                  This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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                  • D Dalek Dave

                    It was made by the greeks and placed outside the city of troy in order to sneak in the greek army. So actually it was a greek horse, not a trojan horse. Let me just check that driving license.

                    ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                    Mark_Wallace
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                    So you're saying that if people produce a product in a country that is not their native country, then the product is a product of their native country? I think not. A huge percentage of European and US products are made by non-Euro/US people -- and even outside of Europe and the US -- but that doesn't make them "foreign" products. The Trojan horse was was built and used exclusively in Troy, so it's Trojan.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    • CPalliniC CPallini

                      Actually on the small label they found: "Made in China". :rolleyes:

                      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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                      CPallini wrote:

                      Actually on the small label they found: "Made in China".

                      Precisely. So it's Trojan.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        Really? It seems perfectly ok to me.

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                        Simon_Whale
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                        I hope it would you wrote it !!

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                        • D Dalek Dave

                          It was made by the greeks and placed outside the city of troy in order to sneak in the greek army. So actually it was a greek horse, not a trojan horse. Let me just check that driving license.

                          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                          Henry Minute
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                          If it helps I have an 'International Donkey Driving Licence'. Gained in the early 70's from one of those daft excursions one goes on in Las Islas Canarias riding a poor, bedraggled beast up the side of Mount Teide.

                          Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” Why do programmers often confuse Halloween and Christmas? Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec.

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                          • D Dalek Dave

                            I have been offered a new oversight. "Site cost manager" I am not sure i want this. Hence "Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes" (which is usually inaccurately translated as 'beware greeks bearing gifts') Although, as I think of it, the Trojan horse was not actually Trojan, the greek tag was actually latin, as the greeks would never be suggesting be waring of themselves, if one one could use that participle, be waring that is, and it is clearly latin, not because timeo ends in o, because the greek first person also ends in o, though actually there is a greek word tim e o, meaning 'I Honour', but the os ending is nominitive singular termination of the second declencion in greek and an accusitive plural in latin, of course, although Danios is not only the greek for 'Greek', but also the latin for 'Greek', it is very intesting.

                            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                            hairy_hats
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                            Dalek Dave wrote:

                            the greeks would never be suggesting be waring of themselves

                            Surely "be wary of themselves"? I can understand you losing sight of the grammar as you wrestled with that monumental sentence!

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                            • CPalliniC CPallini

                              Dalek Dave wrote:

                              (which is usually inaccurately translated as 'beware greeks bearing gifts')

                              I like better "beware greeks and folks bearing gifts". :)

                              If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
                              This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
                              [My articles]

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                              Mark_Wallace
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                              CPallini wrote:

                              I like better "beware greeks and folks bearing gifts".

                              Beware sharks with laser beams.

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              • H Henry Minute

                                Has commensurate remuneration been mentioned? And why are you hanging around with naked Greeks?

                                Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” Why do programmers often confuse Halloween and Christmas? Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec.

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                                Do you know the Father Ted episode "Are You Right There, Father Ted? ", where Ted is accused of being a racist? Love that bit: Mrs.Carberry: Fecking Greeks! Colm: It isn't the Greeks, it's the Chinese he's after. Father Ted: I'm not after the Chinese! Mrs.Carberry:I don't care who he gets as long as I can have a go at the Greeks. They invented gayness! Ah, and I even found the Youtube-video[^]. Brilliant! And then of course there is this bit in Flann O'Brien's great book "At-Swim-Two-Birds" with the two greek sailors named Timeo Danaos and Dona Ferentes. Sadly most people nowadays don't have a classic education any more, so I am usually the only one laughing about this.

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                                  Do you know the Father Ted episode "Are You Right There, Father Ted? ", where Ted is accused of being a racist? Love that bit: Mrs.Carberry: Fecking Greeks! Colm: It isn't the Greeks, it's the Chinese he's after. Father Ted: I'm not after the Chinese! Mrs.Carberry:I don't care who he gets as long as I can have a go at the Greeks. They invented gayness! Ah, and I even found the Youtube-video[^]. Brilliant! And then of course there is this bit in Flann O'Brien's great book "At-Swim-Two-Birds" with the two greek sailors named Timeo Danaos and Dona Ferentes. Sadly most people nowadays don't have a classic education any more, so I am usually the only one laughing about this.

                                  "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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                                  Henry Minute
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                                  Watching the Father Ted clip made me remember the episode. As you say, brilliant but then I don't remember an episode that wasn't so. Regrettably I lack the classic education to which you allude and must, as a consequence, leave you tittering to yourself.

                                  Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” Why do programmers often confuse Halloween and Christmas? Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec.

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                                  • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                                    Actually, I think his message is quite clear. He's going to be in charge of a department full of ladies all baring themselves. Apparently some are Latinas and he can't understand everything, since it all sounds like Greek, but besides declensions and cases, it's going to cost him a lot in Trojans to manage things.

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                                    Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                                    Gary Wheeler
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                                    Oh, the Lounge is in rare form today.

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    • H Henry Minute

                                      If it helps I have an 'International Donkey Driving Licence'. Gained in the early 70's from one of those daft excursions one goes on in Las Islas Canarias riding a poor, bedraggled beast up the side of Mount Teide.

                                      Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” Why do programmers often confuse Halloween and Christmas? Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec.

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                                      Mark_Wallace
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                                      What you are licensed to do with donkeys falls outside of what I think I really want to know.

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      • D Dalek Dave

                                        I have been offered a new oversight. "Site cost manager" I am not sure i want this. Hence "Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes" (which is usually inaccurately translated as 'beware greeks bearing gifts') Although, as I think of it, the Trojan horse was not actually Trojan, the greek tag was actually latin, as the greeks would never be suggesting be waring of themselves, if one one could use that participle, be waring that is, and it is clearly latin, not because timeo ends in o, because the greek first person also ends in o, though actually there is a greek word tim e o, meaning 'I Honour', but the os ending is nominitive singular termination of the second declencion in greek and an accusitive plural in latin, of course, although Danios is not only the greek for 'Greek', but also the latin for 'Greek', it is very intesting.

                                        ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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                                        Romani eunt domus?! What's that supposed to mean?

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