I am XP SP2 addict!
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I prefer Windows 7. :)
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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I prefer Windows 7. :)
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
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I prefer Windows 7. :)
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarke
[My articles]Same, on systems with at least 2 GB of RAM. With 1GB or less I find disk thrashing to be too much compared to XP.
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It's not broken.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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You are right to judge, you tasted them both.I just instinctively judge I should never leave XP from the bad experience Vista has given me.
Im with Danish.. I HATE Vista (need to ensure spelling police a.k.a Dalek Dave dont get me :laugh: ) with a vengance but Windows 7 is far superior
Marc Clifton wrote:
That has nothing to do with VB. - Oh crap. I just defended VB!
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I have a cure. It's a bullet to the head. Side effects include bleeding from one or more orifices, seizures, diminished or complete loss of sight, hearing, and appetite, slurred or no speach, and in most cases, death. Take only as directed.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
I was using VISTA for a while... It annoyed the crap out of me. Not so much the interface but the crappiness of what it was doing. Such a memory whore etc. I upgraded to 7 and all those complaints went away. I am not a PC and Windows 7 was NOT my idea... But it works quite well :)
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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I have a cure. It's a bullet to the head. Side effects include bleeding from one or more orifices, seizures, diminished or complete loss of sight, hearing, and appetite, slurred or no speach, and in most cases, death. Take only as directed.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001 -
You are right to judge, you tasted them both.I just instinctively judge I should never leave XP from the bad experience Vista has given me.
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I was using VISTA for a while... It annoyed the crap out of me. Not so much the interface but the crappiness of what it was doing. Such a memory whore etc. I upgraded to 7 and all those complaints went away. I am not a PC and Windows 7 was NOT my idea... But it works quite well :)
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
Collin Jasnoch wrote:
It annoyed the crap out of me. Not so much the interface but the crappiness of what it was doing. Such a memory whore etc
So you didn't like the fact that you looked at task manager and saw that it was using some of the memory that was normally sitting idle in other OSes?
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Collin Jasnoch wrote:
It annoyed the crap out of me. Not so much the interface but the crappiness of what it was doing. Such a memory whore etc
So you didn't like the fact that you looked at task manager and saw that it was using some of the memory that was normally sitting idle in other OSes?
kinar wrote:
So you didn't like the fact that you looked at task manager and saw that it was using some of the memory that was normally sitting idle in other OSes?
There are actually other ways than looking at the task manager to observe memory whoreeness... Specifically I am talking about performance of applications.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Collin Jasnoch wrote:
It annoyed the crap out of me. Not so much the interface but the crappiness of what it was doing. Such a memory whore etc
So you didn't like the fact that you looked at task manager and saw that it was using some of the memory that was normally sitting idle in other OSes?
The problem isn't caching (although the way it was shown in vista was unfortunate); but the base amount of memory needed for the OS to run. Weven will work at an acceptable level of performance on hardware with much lower specs than Vista did.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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The problem isn't caching (although the way it was shown in vista was unfortunate); but the base amount of memory needed for the OS to run. Weven will work at an acceptable level of performance on hardware with much lower specs than Vista did.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
Dan Neely wrote:
but the base amount of memory needed for the OS to run
This is mostly a percieved issue and not a real one. I've personally run vista with 256MB system memory with surprisingly "good" performance (surprising to me, I was expecting it to choke and it didn't). Vista allocates more memory based upon what is available. I've used it in just about every aspect of computing...programming, gaming, media encoding/playback, high efficiency realtime data processing (stock market data streams), etc and never had any problems with the OS itself. I'm not about to say that Vista is better than Weven (cause it isn't) but from my experiences, it is certainly worlds better than XP ever dreamed of being. And Weven is even better yet.
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kinar wrote:
So you didn't like the fact that you looked at task manager and saw that it was using some of the memory that was normally sitting idle in other OSes?
There are actually other ways than looking at the task manager to observe memory whoreeness... Specifically I am talking about performance of applications.
Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.
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Dan Neely wrote:
but the base amount of memory needed for the OS to run
This is mostly a percieved issue and not a real one. I've personally run vista with 256MB system memory with surprisingly "good" performance (surprising to me, I was expecting it to choke and it didn't). Vista allocates more memory based upon what is available. I've used it in just about every aspect of computing...programming, gaming, media encoding/playback, high efficiency realtime data processing (stock market data streams), etc and never had any problems with the OS itself. I'm not about to say that Vista is better than Weven (cause it isn't) but from my experiences, it is certainly worlds better than XP ever dreamed of being. And Weven is even better yet.
My experience with Vista SP0 (and 1????) with 1GB of ram on a core 1 duo 1.73 laptop was rather poor. It wasn't until I upgraded it to 4(3)GB that I stopped having semi-regular UI responsiveness issues. With enough hardware Vista was acceptable; but that was significantly more than the baseline system when it came out.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
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I personally can't stand what was done to the file explorer.. I mean - I like it when everything I need to do or may want is just there - instead they graphically mangled the file address bar, hide menu options... you can't get there from here...etc... I found that more troublesome than anything... besides the connectivity bits never working..neededing constant rebooting to talk with other machines on the lan and stuff. In all fairness I am a XP and Linux Fan.. and my Cousin tells me that "Weven" is WAY better than Vista: faster, not in your face so much.. etc. He likes it. I'm actually game for it but I'm not tearing down my development MAIN PC (and game PC) to switch over until I have a better reason then what is on the table now ("it'd be cool to check out")
Know way too many languages... master of none!
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My experience with Vista SP0 (and 1????) with 1GB of ram on a core 1 duo 1.73 laptop was rather poor. It wasn't until I upgraded it to 4(3)GB that I stopped having semi-regular UI responsiveness issues. With enough hardware Vista was acceptable; but that was significantly more than the baseline system when it came out.
3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18
No one tells jokes in base-16 anymore. ;)
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I use Windows 7 as a developer with .NET, but still use Windows XP Mode in Windows 7 to support legacy applications, our products, and various development tools such as Studio 6.0 projects. I have a rather expensive scanner that does not work with Windows 7, but works fine in Windows XP Mode on Windows 7. My primary complaint about Windows XP Mode, and Windows Virtual Machine on Windows 7, is the inability to map drive letters to specific folders on the host machine. Windows XP Mode allows me to share entire drives on the host machine, which forces me to drill down to the desired folder each time. On the other hand, Windows Virtual Machine on Windows 7 allows me to connect external USB drives and devices. Without the ability to use external USB devices I would not be able to use the scanner with Windows XP Mode O/S. Aero on Windows 7 is really neat.... for about a week. I suppose I could spend days on end personalizing my desktop "experience". But, I write documentation for our products, which require screen shots of the product in action. Some older screenshots were taken on Windows XP with "Windows Classic" UI. Fortunately, Windows 7 allows me to use "Windows Classic" UI so I don't have to retake all of my screen shots again. I use Windows XP SP-3 (via XP Mode on Windows 7) and Windows 7 almost equally, but for different purposes.