Wireless Routers
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This may seem an odd one, and I can't say that I've ever heard of it being done, but is there any reason that two wireless routers can't serve as endpoints that bridge the distance between them? I can't think of any technical obstacles, but I'd think I would have read of this scenario somewhere over the years if it could be done. What I've got is two buildings, too far apart for cable but within 802.11n range. One has an Internet connection via RJ-45 jack, the other needs access to that connection, also via RJ-45 jack. And I have to do it by Friday. And I have only hardware available from Walmart or Home Depot to work with. That means nothing fancy, no online ordering - zero lead time is the order of the day. Has anyone heard of this being done (and I hope someone here does it all the time with no troubles)?
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I used a "wireless print server" to do that. You might be able to find something like that at one of those stores.
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They are all configurable as access points, but that just lets them talk to client devices. I need to make two routers link to each other, and use their RJ45 ports to hang devices on at each end.
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Why don't you put one in AP mode and the other in Client mode?
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Why don't you put one in AP mode and the other in Client mode?
I don't actually know if that can be done with standard, store-bought routers. :-O I even have one at home, but haven't had time yet to read the manual I had to print from the CD, and I'm not really sure where the CD is anymore. I've been a little busy, and this is a sudden assignment with the usual completely unreasonable deadline. At least this time they didn't ask me to invent some new laws of physics...
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I don't actually know if that can be done with standard, store-bought routers. :-O I even have one at home, but haven't had time yet to read the manual I had to print from the CD, and I'm not really sure where the CD is anymore. I've been a little busy, and this is a sudden assignment with the usual completely unreasonable deadline. At least this time they didn't ask me to invent some new laws of physics...
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Roger Wright wrote:
I don't actually know if that can be done with standard, store-bought routers
Any WAP should be able to work in both modes.
Roger Wright wrote:
and I'm not really sure where the CD is anymore.
Try googling it, I mean not for lost CD, but for WAP's manual :)
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This may seem an odd one, and I can't say that I've ever heard of it being done, but is there any reason that two wireless routers can't serve as endpoints that bridge the distance between them? I can't think of any technical obstacles, but I'd think I would have read of this scenario somewhere over the years if it could be done. What I've got is two buildings, too far apart for cable but within 802.11n range. One has an Internet connection via RJ-45 jack, the other needs access to that connection, also via RJ-45 jack. And I have to do it by Friday. And I have only hardware available from Walmart or Home Depot to work with. That means nothing fancy, no online ordering - zero lead time is the order of the day. Has anyone heard of this being done (and I hope someone here does it all the time with no troubles)?
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I will quote to you from an article that I was reading earlier today.
once the new firmware is in place, you're presented with a web controller interface that displays far more options than you had available before. They include the ability to set up your router in many different configurations, the one I needed being a Repeater Bridge that extends the wireless range as well as providing access to the routers ethernet ports. If I hadn't needed to extend the range and had merely wanted to hook up the printer then a Client Bridge would have been the better option.
The article was about re-flashing the firmware on an old LinkSys Router using software from dd-wrt.com[^]. They support literally hundreds of different routers, there's a list on the site. I hope that this is of some help. :)
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I will quote to you from an article that I was reading earlier today.
once the new firmware is in place, you're presented with a web controller interface that displays far more options than you had available before. They include the ability to set up your router in many different configurations, the one I needed being a Repeater Bridge that extends the wireless range as well as providing access to the routers ethernet ports. If I hadn't needed to extend the range and had merely wanted to hook up the printer then a Client Bridge would have been the better option.
The article was about re-flashing the firmware on an old LinkSys Router using software from dd-wrt.com[^]. They support literally hundreds of different routers, there's a list on the site. I hope that this is of some help. :)
Henry Minute Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?" “I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.” Why do programmers often confuse Halloween and Christmas? - Because 31 Oct = 25 Dec. Business Myths of the Geek #4 'What you think matters.'
It certainly offers some possibilities, and I just happen to have a supported router lying about. Now all I need is another one and a few minutes to try it out. Thanks, Henry! :-D
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It certainly offers some possibilities, and I just happen to have a supported router lying about. Now all I need is another one and a few minutes to try it out. Thanks, Henry! :-D
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dd-wrt adds wireless bridge mode for a WRT54G which is exactly what you want. See [^]
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dd-wrt adds wireless bridge mode for a WRT54G which is exactly what you want. See [^]
Steve _________________ I C(++) therefore I am
Good article! Thanks! :)
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This may seem an odd one, and I can't say that I've ever heard of it being done, but is there any reason that two wireless routers can't serve as endpoints that bridge the distance between them? I can't think of any technical obstacles, but I'd think I would have read of this scenario somewhere over the years if it could be done. What I've got is two buildings, too far apart for cable but within 802.11n range. One has an Internet connection via RJ-45 jack, the other needs access to that connection, also via RJ-45 jack. And I have to do it by Friday. And I have only hardware available from Walmart or Home Depot to work with. That means nothing fancy, no online ordering - zero lead time is the order of the day. Has anyone heard of this being done (and I hope someone here does it all the time with no troubles)?
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
There are router that can be configured has "range extenders" So basically, one acts has the access point (normal operation) and the range extender acts like the client. You can use the RJ45 of the range extender to connect the lan on the second location.
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There are router that can be configured has "range extenders" So basically, one acts has the access point (normal operation) and the range extender acts like the client. You can use the RJ45 of the range extender to connect the lan on the second location.
We had a Linksys 54g Range Extender. The setup was a real pain-in-the-a$$. Updating the firmware was even worse. X|
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We had a Linksys 54g Range Extender. The setup was a real pain-in-the-a$$. Updating the firmware was even worse. X|
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I have done it with a Belkin Range extender with no problem. But have since then gone back to good old cable! I hate Wifi Speed for anything else than surfing.
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Good article! Thanks! :)
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dd-wrt adds wireless bridge mode for a WRT54G which is exactly what you want. See [^]
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I've created wireless bridges with dd-wrt. Works fine. Toughest part is flashing the image onto the router. Follow the instructions and you'll be fine. It's been a while, but the only problem you might encounter is MAC translation for devices behind the bridged router. I don't recall the details. My application was wirelessly networking a hacked, ethernet-enabled Series 1 Tivo. I didn't want to invest in further upgrading the Tivo with a wifi card, so instead bridged a router to my network and hooked the Tivo up to the router. Was able to TivoNet and such. I also used it to hook an old Roku music player wirelessly to my desktop machine's media library. IIRC, the Roku had wireless capability with WEP security, but I didn't want to downgrade my home wifi from WPA. Dd-wrt supports WPA in bridged mode. Current micro builds will support even the newer v5 (and maybe later... I haven't looked lately) WRT54G routers. Though you should check to make sure the capabilities you want are available in the micro builds. In my experience, dd-wrt is very robust. Much more so than the Linksys firmware. If there's a problem, it's in the hardware, which in the newer, cheaper products has a tendency to overheat. If budget allows, try to source one of the older versions. It'll probably already have dd-wrt flashed on, saving you the headache. Cool stuff.
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This may seem an odd one, and I can't say that I've ever heard of it being done, but is there any reason that two wireless routers can't serve as endpoints that bridge the distance between them? I can't think of any technical obstacles, but I'd think I would have read of this scenario somewhere over the years if it could be done. What I've got is two buildings, too far apart for cable but within 802.11n range. One has an Internet connection via RJ-45 jack, the other needs access to that connection, also via RJ-45 jack. And I have to do it by Friday. And I have only hardware available from Walmart or Home Depot to work with. That means nothing fancy, no online ordering - zero lead time is the order of the day. Has anyone heard of this being done (and I hope someone here does it all the time with no troubles)?
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
Hi Roger, I think this may be relevant : LifeHacker: "Turn Your Old Router into a Range-Boosting Wi-Fi Repeater"[^] by Kevin Purdy, June 15, 2010. best, Bill
"Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844
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Hi Roger, I think this may be relevant : LifeHacker: "Turn Your Old Router into a Range-Boosting Wi-Fi Repeater"[^] by Kevin Purdy, June 15, 2010. best, Bill
"Many : not conversant with mathematical studies, imagine that because it [the Analytical Engine] is to give results in numerical notation, its processes must consequently be arithmetical, numerical, rather than algebraical and analytical. This is an error. The engine can arrange and combine numerical quantities as if they were letters or any other general symbols; and it fact it might bring out its results in algebraical notation, were provisions made accordingly." Ada, Countess Lovelace, 1844
Thanks, Bill. Th DD-WRT package has been mentioned several times, and I've downloaded the firmware for my router. I can hardly wait to try it! :-D
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I've created wireless bridges with dd-wrt. Works fine. Toughest part is flashing the image onto the router. Follow the instructions and you'll be fine. It's been a while, but the only problem you might encounter is MAC translation for devices behind the bridged router. I don't recall the details. My application was wirelessly networking a hacked, ethernet-enabled Series 1 Tivo. I didn't want to invest in further upgrading the Tivo with a wifi card, so instead bridged a router to my network and hooked the Tivo up to the router. Was able to TivoNet and such. I also used it to hook an old Roku music player wirelessly to my desktop machine's media library. IIRC, the Roku had wireless capability with WEP security, but I didn't want to downgrade my home wifi from WPA. Dd-wrt supports WPA in bridged mode. Current micro builds will support even the newer v5 (and maybe later... I haven't looked lately) WRT54G routers. Though you should check to make sure the capabilities you want are available in the micro builds. In my experience, dd-wrt is very robust. Much more so than the Linksys firmware. If there's a problem, it's in the hardware, which in the newer, cheaper products has a tendency to overheat. If budget allows, try to source one of the older versions. It'll probably already have dd-wrt flashed on, saving you the headache. Cool stuff.
My D-Link DIR-615-C1 router comes with a notice that it contains open source firmware, covered under the GPL and LGPL licenses, and that I can obtain the source code on request. I wonder if they simply gave up writing their own and just use the dd-wrt code? :-D
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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This may seem an odd one, and I can't say that I've ever heard of it being done, but is there any reason that two wireless routers can't serve as endpoints that bridge the distance between them? I can't think of any technical obstacles, but I'd think I would have read of this scenario somewhere over the years if it could be done. What I've got is two buildings, too far apart for cable but within 802.11n range. One has an Internet connection via RJ-45 jack, the other needs access to that connection, also via RJ-45 jack. And I have to do it by Friday. And I have only hardware available from Walmart or Home Depot to work with. That means nothing fancy, no online ordering - zero lead time is the order of the day. Has anyone heard of this being done (and I hope someone here does it all the time with no troubles)?
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
What you need is a pair of Linksys WRT54GL's and DD-WRT firmware. I'm doing similar from the back of my apartment to the front as both a range extender and a bridge. Works great but it's not 'N'. Edwin
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This may seem an odd one, and I can't say that I've ever heard of it being done, but is there any reason that two wireless routers can't serve as endpoints that bridge the distance between them? I can't think of any technical obstacles, but I'd think I would have read of this scenario somewhere over the years if it could be done. What I've got is two buildings, too far apart for cable but within 802.11n range. One has an Internet connection via RJ-45 jack, the other needs access to that connection, also via RJ-45 jack. And I have to do it by Friday. And I have only hardware available from Walmart or Home Depot to work with. That means nothing fancy, no online ordering - zero lead time is the order of the day. Has anyone heard of this being done (and I hope someone here does it all the time with no troubles)?
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
The Linksys WAP200E will allow this.
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My D-Link DIR-615-C1 router comes with a notice that it contains open source firmware, covered under the GPL and LGPL licenses, and that I can obtain the source code on request. I wonder if they simply gave up writing their own and just use the dd-wrt code? :-D
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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This may seem an odd one, and I can't say that I've ever heard of it being done, but is there any reason that two wireless routers can't serve as endpoints that bridge the distance between them? I can't think of any technical obstacles, but I'd think I would have read of this scenario somewhere over the years if it could be done. What I've got is two buildings, too far apart for cable but within 802.11n range. One has an Internet connection via RJ-45 jack, the other needs access to that connection, also via RJ-45 jack. And I have to do it by Friday. And I have only hardware available from Walmart or Home Depot to work with. That means nothing fancy, no online ordering - zero lead time is the order of the day. Has anyone heard of this being done (and I hope someone here does it all the time with no troubles)?
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
As many have said, DD-wrt will do precisely what you're after. I've used it myself, to do precisely what you've suggested. If you use a Linksys router - the older WRT54g units are ideal, as you can add better antennas - you can see transmission distances on the order of half a mile (that's stretching it, but I *DID* do it!) Also, if you need hardware, try this: http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-TEW-632BRP-Wireless-Ethernet/dp/B000WBNY9G?tag=slickdeals&prv=forums&cur=forums&ses=[^] $34 for a router that will take the latest and greatest from DD-WRT. D.