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  • P Paul Watson

    Christopher Duncan wrote: I wonder if there's a pattern forming somewhere... *groan* That is too terrible for words Christopher.

    Paul Watson
    Bluegrass
    Cape Town, South Africa

    Ray Cassick wrote:
    Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul Watson

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    Christopher Duncan
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    Paul Watson wrote: *groan* That is too terrible for words Christopher. Hey, it's early, and I haven't had enough coffee yet. ;P Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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      James Spibey wrote: The year I spent down at Heathrow working for them taught me more about corporate backstabbing politics than any book could :laugh: I can easily believe that! No matter where you live, people are the same, aren't they? I'm currently working for a company that writes air traffic control software for the FAA, and of course there's no lack of politics there, either. Fortunately, my boss rocks - he makes sure that I never see any of that crap so that I can concentrate on my job - writing code for him. I haven't always been so lucky! (Wanna see my Corporate Battle Scars?) :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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      Christopher Duncan wrote: I'm currently working for a company that writes air traffic control software for the FAA, and of course there's no lack of politics there, either It is always frightening to hear that even in mission critical development processes such as air traffic control there are the same politics that are in, for instance, writing a content management system. I will bet there are plenty of things none of us would like to admit that our companies do to get products out of the door. But to have the same thing for an air traffic control product... lovely! :~ *Paul WALKS to London*

      Paul Watson
      Bluegrass
      Cape Town, South Africa

      Ray Cassick wrote:
      Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul Watson

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        Christopher Duncan wrote: I'm currently working for a company that writes air traffic control software for the FAA, and of course there's no lack of politics there, either It is always frightening to hear that even in mission critical development processes such as air traffic control there are the same politics that are in, for instance, writing a content management system. I will bet there are plenty of things none of us would like to admit that our companies do to get products out of the door. But to have the same thing for an air traffic control product... lovely! :~ *Paul WALKS to London*

        Paul Watson
        Bluegrass
        Cape Town, South Africa

        Ray Cassick wrote:
        Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul Watson

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        Christopher Duncan
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        Paul Watson wrote: I will bet there are plenty of things none of us would like to admit that our companies do to get products out of the door. But to have the same thing for an air traffic control product... lovely! Well, for what it's worth, I still fly. Actually, this shop is one of only two shops I've worked for in the past 12 years that actually has a firm, formalized testing procedure before releases go out to the FAA. Then, their tech center puts the software through their own testing process before the version is allowed into the field. If this software was released the way most stuff in our business is, I'd be walking, too! Paul Watson wrote: *Paul WALKS to London* If Paul walks to London, he's gonna be very, very damp. Unless, of course, he walks on water, and those rumors do circulate from time to time. The fact that Paul initiates them himself is another matter entirely... :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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          Paul Watson wrote: I will bet there are plenty of things none of us would like to admit that our companies do to get products out of the door. But to have the same thing for an air traffic control product... lovely! Well, for what it's worth, I still fly. Actually, this shop is one of only two shops I've worked for in the past 12 years that actually has a firm, formalized testing procedure before releases go out to the FAA. Then, their tech center puts the software through their own testing process before the version is allowed into the field. If this software was released the way most stuff in our business is, I'd be walking, too! Paul Watson wrote: *Paul WALKS to London* If Paul walks to London, he's gonna be very, very damp. Unless, of course, he walks on water, and those rumors do circulate from time to time. The fact that Paul initiates them himself is another matter entirely... :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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          Paul Watson
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          Christopher Duncan wrote: The fact that Paul initiates them himself is another matter entirely... It was bread, gooseberry jam and butter, not walking on water. And just for the record *Paul looks at the camera and starts to float* I never managed to materialise the butter in the end anyway. Only Jesus could walk on water and he always had a pair of yellow polka dot water wings handy in case something distracted him. :rolleyes:

          Paul Watson
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          Ray Cassick wrote:
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            Christopher Duncan wrote: The fact that Paul initiates them himself is another matter entirely... It was bread, gooseberry jam and butter, not walking on water. And just for the record *Paul looks at the camera and starts to float* I never managed to materialise the butter in the end anyway. Only Jesus could walk on water and he always had a pair of yellow polka dot water wings handy in case something distracted him. :rolleyes:

            Paul Watson
            Bluegrass
            Cape Town, South Africa

            Ray Cassick wrote:
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            Christopher Duncan
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            Paul Watson wrote: Only Jesus could walk on water and he always had a pair of yellow polka dot water wings handy in case something distracted him. [Reaches for asbestos jumpsuit and edges cautiously away from Paul] Oh, I'm not going anywhere near that one! :-) Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)

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              James Spibey wrote: I'm not interested in langauge specific books, what I want is something which teaches or gives advice on software engineering as a whole covering the whole software lifecycle if possible. Sorry, I am not answering your question. But rather tagging along and asking: Has anyone read the Gang of Four book and was it good? I read the GOF article posted here on CP and it is interesting stuff.

              Paul Watson
              Bluegrass
              Cape Town, South Africa

              Ray Cassick wrote:
              Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul Watson

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              Stefan Pedersen
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              Short answer: very good, well spent cash. In my opinon a must read for all OO programmers.

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                Hey guys, I'm looking for recommendations on books which helped you develop your software engineering skills. I'm not interested in langauge specific books, what I want is something which teaches or gives advice on software engineering as a whole covering the whole software lifecycle if possible. So, does anyone have any ideas? Cheers James

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                Paul M Watt
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                I like "Code Complete" and "Journey of a Software Professional" by Luke Hohhmann.


                Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for a day
                Light a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life!

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                  James Spibey wrote: I'm not interested in langauge specific books, what I want is something which teaches or gives advice on software engineering as a whole covering the whole software lifecycle if possible. Sorry, I am not answering your question. But rather tagging along and asking: Has anyone read the Gang of Four book and was it good? I read the GOF article posted here on CP and it is interesting stuff.

                  Paul Watson
                  Bluegrass
                  Cape Town, South Africa

                  Ray Cassick wrote:
                  Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul Watson

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                  Russell Morris
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                  After reading through the Gang of Four book[^] (it's actual title is Design Patterns), you'll be a different software architect and coder. You most definitely should read this book if you are going to be within 5 miles of any reasonably object-oriented programming language. -- Russell Morris "Have you gone mad Frink? Put down that science pole!"

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                    Christopher Duncan wrote: I'm currently working for a company that writes air traffic control software for the FAA, and of course there's no lack of politics there, either It is always frightening to hear that even in mission critical development processes such as air traffic control there are the same politics that are in, for instance, writing a content management system. I will bet there are plenty of things none of us would like to admit that our companies do to get products out of the door. But to have the same thing for an air traffic control product... lovely! :~ *Paul WALKS to London*

                    Paul Watson
                    Bluegrass
                    Cape Town, South Africa

                    Ray Cassick wrote:
                    Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul Watson

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                    Roger Wright
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                    Paul Watson wrote: But to have the same thing for an air traffic control product... lovely! *Paul WALKS to London* I've heard that, for political reasons, the next generation will be written entirely in Java, except for the hard parts that require VB. Have you considered sailing? "When in danger, fear, or doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!" - Lorelei and Lapis Lazuli Long

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                      Christopher Duncan wrote: Got a clickety? Illustrated GOF Design Patterns in C# Part I: Creational[^] I then checked Google and there was plenty on this famous book by the GOF. Just wondering if anyone here had read it and what they thought :)

                      Paul Watson
                      Bluegrass
                      Cape Town, South Africa

                      Ray Cassick wrote:
                      Well I am not female, not gay and I am not Paul Watson

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                      Zyxil
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                      the GOF requires at least two readings the first time you read it (if you're new to design patterns), it will blow your mind the second time you read it, it will start to make sense after that it becomes a great reference i bought the cd version and keep a copy of the book on my machine: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0201634988/qid=1036512765/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/102-5550037-6398521?v=glance[^] -John

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