CNBC: FCC Will Tame the Internet—Or Kill It
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Distind wrote:
Pfft, if you believe that I have a few managers to introduce you to.
They are just wannabes. Like kids playing cops and robbers compared the the government.
Distind wrote:
Really? Because I heard they claim them as they have the networks laid out and no one else can afford to eat the startup costs.
Due to federal regulations and the FCC.
Distind wrote:
So, if it's a private company censoring the Internet you're fine with it?
Yes, however I would not buy service from them.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
They are just wannabes. Like kids playing cops and robbers compared the the government.
I'll have to show you my work backlog at some point.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Due to federal regulations and the FCC.
Not really, more due to the cost of that much cabling. I was involved in laying a great deal of cable here in my office, stuff isn't cheap and we aren't using anything as major as what they'd need.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Yes, however I would not buy service from them.
And if they're the only supplier available? I'm finding the phrase 'corporate lapdog' fairly effective in describing you these days now that I think about it. Though it's appears to be driven by a blind faith in the free market rather than any expectation of a reward from the corporations themselves.
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
The customers are signing agreements like "The bandwidth may not always be as high as advertised"... Not "Your favorite websites may be unavailable if they don't pay us".
Well, if the company broke the contract then they broke the law, otherwise, the customer agreed to it.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
As for competition... Do you have any idea how expensive it is to wire up a neighborhood?
Do you have any idea how much money ISPs make? Very profitable business.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
Even if wireless broadband actually becomes a reality
It already has, years ago. I had a 3G connection for a year, it was great.
Ian Shlasko wrote:
So real competition in this industry is a pipe dream.
Due to federal regulations and the FCC.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Well, if the company broke the contract then they broke the law, otherwise, the customer agreed to it.
It's the difference between flat-out lying and just misleading. One is illegal, and one is legal but unethical.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Do you have any idea how much money ISPs make? Very profitable business.
Know why? They oversell bandwidth. They only have N Mbps available, but they sell 10 x N to their customers, gambling that not everyone will want to use it at the same time. Kind of like fractional reserve banking, now that I think about it.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It already has, years ago. I had a 3G connection for a year, it was great.
And what was your latency? More than 100ms or so, and fast-paced multiplayer games are pretty much out. What about the bandwidth? I stream Netflix movies through my Roku to my TV, and that works great. When I had it going over my wireless connection, however (802.11n), it was slow and choppy.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Due to federal regulations and the FCC.
Congratulations. You ignore almost every statement that supports this conclusion, and then just say the equivalent of "Nope, you're wrong."
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
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Why should they even want to prioritize POP3/SMTP? Emails aren't that big, they will get through quickly enough anyway - unless of course you do make them big but then they become the cause of the congestion instead of the victim. They aren't the victim anyway, a couple of microseconds delay doesn't matter for an email. But it matters a whole lot for online gaming.
True enough. Just giving a few simple examples.
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/37779304[^] For almost two decades the U.S. government has kept its meddlesome mudhooks off the Internet, freeing it to spread its kudzu-like tendrils into the global economy. And it worked. Some telecom execs say the FCC’s agenda is downright radical. It could thwart high hopes for the wireless Internet, centerstage of the next digital revolution. The agency assault could restack the pecking order of winners and losers and reshape their stock prices, affecting the portfolios of millions of retirees and investors. It would impose new burdens on big carriers, while granting new power to content purveyors like Google This is just one part of their plan to fuck up the internet, their other more serious part of the plan is their "cybersecurity" bullshit where they command ISPs to shutdown service or block certain websites during a "national emergency". Its totally criminal, and they need to be thrown in prison for everything illegal they have done. Bribery, theft, unlawful unconstitutional actions such as this and the millions of other bullshit laws they have passed.
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net neutrality horrible thing, being fair I want higher bills the net is doomed or likely it will cost us Bet Alex can't though
If I have accidentally said something witty, smart, or correct, it is purely by mistake and I apologize for it.
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/37779304[^] For almost two decades the U.S. government has kept its meddlesome mudhooks off the Internet, freeing it to spread its kudzu-like tendrils into the global economy. And it worked. Some telecom execs say the FCC’s agenda is downright radical. It could thwart high hopes for the wireless Internet, centerstage of the next digital revolution. The agency assault could restack the pecking order of winners and losers and reshape their stock prices, affecting the portfolios of millions of retirees and investors. It would impose new burdens on big carriers, while granting new power to content purveyors like Google This is just one part of their plan to fuck up the internet, their other more serious part of the plan is their "cybersecurity" bullshit where they command ISPs to shutdown service or block certain websites during a "national emergency". Its totally criminal, and they need to be thrown in prison for everything illegal they have done. Bribery, theft, unlawful unconstitutional actions such as this and the millions of other bullshit laws they have passed.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
This is just one part of their plan to f*** up the internet, their other more serious part of the plan is their "cybersecurity" bullsh*t where they command ISPs to shutdown service or block certain websites during a "national emergency". Its totally criminal, and they need to be thrown in prison for everything illegal they have done. Bribery, theft, unlawful unconstitutional actions such as this and the millions of other bullsh*t laws they have passed.
Congratulations, you have won a free holiday in Syria. Your Department of Fatherland Security limousine will be with you shortly.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
This is just one part of their plan to f*** up the internet, their other more serious part of the plan is their "cybersecurity" bullsh*t where they command ISPs to shutdown service or block certain websites during a "national emergency". Its totally criminal, and they need to be thrown in prison for everything illegal they have done. Bribery, theft, unlawful unconstitutional actions such as this and the millions of other bullsh*t laws they have passed.
Congratulations, you have won a free holiday in Syria. Your Department of Fatherland Security limousine will be with you shortly.
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No! I am angry, I am sick and tired of these fuckheads that think they own us and constantly rob us of all our liberties, property, and wealth. Fuck them all to hell. The internet is way to important for them to fuck up, it is absolutely intolerable for them to even talk about touching the internet.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
it is absolutely intolerable for them to even talk about touching the internet.
Because you're embarrassed to buy pron in person ? I saw the Fed this week. I couldn't see where the Illuminati building was, tho.
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ISPs should be able to do whatever they like, so as long as it is what the consumers agreed to (if they signed a contract). Otherwise, if it weren't for the regulations already in place, there would be more competition. I'm for repealing all regulations.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
ISPs should be able to do whatever they like, so as long as it is what the consumers agreed to (if they signed a contract). Otherwise, if it weren't for the regulations already in place, there would be more competition. I'm for repealing all regulations.
That's because you are stupid. I'm reading a book about FDR, some of the conditions that existed, that caused him to do the things he did, basically prove the lie of everything you claim to believe. For those stupid enough to need proof.
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ISPs can do whatever they want. If consumers don't like the service they are getting they can buy service from another ISP, its called free-market. This is just a stepping stone for the government to come in and say they can control every single aspect of the internet. They start with something that ignorant people who don't know any better would support, thinking its to "protect" them from the big bad businesses. And they go at it in another direction simultaneously in the name of cybersecurity and national disaster situations to grab even more power. Eventually the two strategies meet and they have complete and absolute control over the internet. And they prosecute those who try to get around their regulations and controls.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
ignorant people
Finally - something you are qualified to discuss.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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http://www.cnbc.com/id/37779304[^] For almost two decades the U.S. government has kept its meddlesome mudhooks off the Internet, freeing it to spread its kudzu-like tendrils into the global economy. And it worked. Some telecom execs say the FCC’s agenda is downright radical. It could thwart high hopes for the wireless Internet, centerstage of the next digital revolution. The agency assault could restack the pecking order of winners and losers and reshape their stock prices, affecting the portfolios of millions of retirees and investors. It would impose new burdens on big carriers, while granting new power to content purveyors like Google This is just one part of their plan to fuck up the internet, their other more serious part of the plan is their "cybersecurity" bullshit where they command ISPs to shutdown service or block certain websites during a "national emergency". Its totally criminal, and they need to be thrown in prison for everything illegal they have done. Bribery, theft, unlawful unconstitutional actions such as this and the millions of other bullshit laws they have passed.
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wow, near enough every country is trying to force some "moral" policing of the internet. there are some things in this wonderful web thingy that i would love to see governments around the world police.
Marc Clifton wrote:
That has nothing to do with VB. - Oh crap. I just defended VB!
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
it is absolutely intolerable for them to even talk about touching the internet.
Because you're embarrassed to buy pron in person ? I saw the Fed this week. I couldn't see where the Illuminati building was, tho.
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
I couldn't see where the Illuminati building was, tho
Yes, well, that's because the Illuminati are stepping back for a while and letting the Freemasons assume the rotating EU shadow presidency[^] (Gotta love The Chaser :laugh: They're not as funny as The Onion, but they're still pretty good value...)
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ISPs can do whatever they want. If consumers don't like the service they are getting they can buy service from another ISP, its called free-market. This is just a stepping stone for the government to come in and say they can control every single aspect of the internet. They start with something that ignorant people who don't know any better would support, thinking its to "protect" them from the big bad businesses. And they go at it in another direction simultaneously in the name of cybersecurity and national disaster situations to grab even more power. Eventually the two strategies meet and they have complete and absolute control over the internet. And they prosecute those who try to get around their regulations and controls.
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You idiot. If all the ISP owners are free to restrict end users any way they like, there will be no free-market, because there won't be an alternative.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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You idiot. If all the ISP owners are free to restrict end users any way they like, there will be no free-market, because there won't be an alternative.
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
I'm having a real problem with that right now. I can't access what I want, and there are no other ISPs I can choose from.
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