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  • I Ian Shlasko

    Are you braindead? The point I'm making is that things like beer and cigarettes will make better currency than gold or silver if things really collapse, because people will be more willing to trade for things like that, than for shiny rocks.

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    CaptainSeeSharp
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    You just don't get it. You think that a severe depression means the end of the world? I said if you have any savings after investing in supplies, then you want to invest in gold and silver because once things recover, you will have your savings plus some. Gold and silver is a hedge against inflation. Even in the worse of situations such as that of Zymbabwe's hyperinflation, they had to trade in gold if they wanted anything. People mined gold dust from the rivers, and that was the only acceptable currency for food, fuel, tools, and other supplies. Got it?

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      You just don't get it. You think that a severe depression means the end of the world? I said if you have any savings after investing in supplies, then you want to invest in gold and silver because once things recover, you will have your savings plus some. Gold and silver is a hedge against inflation. Even in the worse of situations such as that of Zymbabwe's hyperinflation, they had to trade in gold if they wanted anything. People mined gold dust from the rivers, and that was the only acceptable currency for food, fuel, tools, and other supplies. Got it?

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      Ian Shlasko
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      People will pay more For cigarettes and beer too When they need their fix If the dollar dies It will take a lot of time 'fore we're back on track You should focus more On surviving until then Gold won't matter much On the other hand Go ahead and stockpile gold We'll laugh at your corpse This is getting dull Even typing in haikus Still not worth the time I'm going to sleep Some of us have jobs, you know Kind of makes you think You don't have a job Why should we listen to you On money issues? That's like listening To a parapolegic's Advice on biking

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      • C CaptainSeeSharp

        I don't disagree with you. But if you have any savings after investing in supplies, and if you want to come out ahead of everyone else when things start to recover, gold and silver is your best bet.

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        Tim Craig
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        And how much gold and silver do you have? And that shiny stuff you have in the kitchen drawer doesn't count because the silverware you have isn't.

        Once you agree to clans, tribes, governments...you've opted for socialism. The rest is just details.

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        • C CaptainSeeSharp

          You just don't get it. You think that a severe depression means the end of the world? I said if you have any savings after investing in supplies, then you want to invest in gold and silver because once things recover, you will have your savings plus some. Gold and silver is a hedge against inflation. Even in the worse of situations such as that of Zymbabwe's hyperinflation, they had to trade in gold if they wanted anything. People mined gold dust from the rivers, and that was the only acceptable currency for food, fuel, tools, and other supplies. Got it?

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          Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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          No I think its you that just doesnt get it, yes gold and silver may be desirable during the recovery phase, however its like monopoly, if you start a game with one player with all the cash and one with all the property you will find the property wins eery time, so it is with a colapse, all your gold is only useful if someone will sell you goods for it, if the colapse is bad enough for the dollar to be worthless it may just as likely mean that gold/silver is also worthless and goods worth trading will be the defacto currency, if you have those then you will be able to amasss the gold from overcharging morons like you who have a stack of gold and no food

          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

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          • C CaptainSeeSharp

            Then hold on to your paper then. Quite frankly, I don't care about you, I only care about real Americans.

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            Dalek Dave
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            The Cherokee?

            ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave

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              No I think its you that just doesnt get it, yes gold and silver may be desirable during the recovery phase, however its like monopoly, if you start a game with one player with all the cash and one with all the property you will find the property wins eery time, so it is with a colapse, all your gold is only useful if someone will sell you goods for it, if the colapse is bad enough for the dollar to be worthless it may just as likely mean that gold/silver is also worthless and goods worth trading will be the defacto currency, if you have those then you will be able to amasss the gold from overcharging morons like you who have a stack of gold and no food

              You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

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              CaptainSeeSharp
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              You are a fucking idiot. It is no wonder the elite of the world don't give a shit about what the "little people" such as yourself think. You are god dman morons that needs to be controlled and sterilized.

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                You are a fucking idiot. It is no wonder the elite of the world don't give a shit about what the "little people" such as yourself think. You are god dman morons that needs to be controlled and sterilized.

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                Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                that might strong words from a pizza delivery boy, I doubt even your mother gives a sh*t about you and wishes she had been sterilized. as for being an Idiot, I like most here make a living from programming, you however make a living by delivering pizza (and cannot even keep down that kind of job). so who is the idiot. The elite of this world may not give a damn about what I think but that compares with them dot giving a damn that you even exist. I can assure you of one certain fact in this world, if they decide to impliement these wild theories of yours then you as an the lowest of the low will be the first to be removed from the gene pool, it is only the welfare state you hate so much that has stopped nature already providing this service

                You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

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                  that might strong words from a pizza delivery boy, I doubt even your mother gives a sh*t about you and wishes she had been sterilized. as for being an Idiot, I like most here make a living from programming, you however make a living by delivering pizza (and cannot even keep down that kind of job). so who is the idiot. The elite of this world may not give a damn about what I think but that compares with them dot giving a damn that you even exist. I can assure you of one certain fact in this world, if they decide to impliement these wild theories of yours then you as an the lowest of the low will be the first to be removed from the gene pool, it is only the welfare state you hate so much that has stopped nature already providing this service

                  You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

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                  CaptainSeeSharp
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                  Anyone can program a computer these days. You are damn stupid, and I am glad that by 2018-2020, you will no longer be permitted to live in a regular house without paying exorbitantly high periodic fees. By 2020, The nations in the EU will no longer premit the construction of regular homes as we know them now, instead you will live in zero carbon super compact apartment cubes. Suffer.

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                    Anyone can program a computer these days. You are damn stupid, and I am glad that by 2018-2020, you will no longer be permitted to live in a regular house without paying exorbitantly high periodic fees. By 2020, The nations in the EU will no longer premit the construction of regular homes as we know them now, instead you will live in zero carbon super compact apartment cubes. Suffer.

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                    Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                    the first comment shows exactly how little you know about programming, if anyone can do it why are you a pizza deliverly boy? why is noone paying you good money to program?, possibly because you are a brain dead doper with the social skills of a dead woodchuck as for the rest i cannot comment because I havent read that piece of scifi, but from this side it would be more likely that Mr O will have you in your lovely cubes well before us ( assuming that China hasnt evicted you all from North America for non payment of debts)

                    You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

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                    • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                      the first comment shows exactly how little you know about programming, if anyone can do it why are you a pizza deliverly boy? why is noone paying you good money to program?, possibly because you are a brain dead doper with the social skills of a dead woodchuck as for the rest i cannot comment because I havent read that piece of scifi, but from this side it would be more likely that Mr O will have you in your lovely cubes well before us ( assuming that China hasnt evicted you all from North America for non payment of debts)

                      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start

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                      CaptainSeeSharp
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                      I'm not a pizza delivery guy, I've never done that in my life. I am a Software Engineer, and a Chef. http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/green-building-news/pre-copenhagen-eus-near-zero-directives-pledges-us-and-china-new-code[^]

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                        Anyone can program a computer these days. You are damn stupid, and I am glad that by 2018-2020, you will no longer be permitted to live in a regular house without paying exorbitantly high periodic fees. By 2020, The nations in the EU will no longer premit the construction of regular homes as we know them now, instead you will live in zero carbon super compact apartment cubes. Suffer.

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                        Lost User
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                        CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                        Anyone can program a computer these days.

                        To run Snakes, yes. To produce anything novel and complex, no.

                        Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.

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                          I'm not a pizza delivery guy, I've never done that in my life. I am a Software Engineer, and a Chef. http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/green-building-news/pre-copenhagen-eus-near-zero-directives-pledges-us-and-china-new-code[^]

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                          Lost User
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                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                          I am a Software Engineer

                          @ $5 an hour? You are a cut & paste coder.

                          CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                          and a Chef

                          @ $5 an hour? You are a burger flipper.

                          Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.

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                            Anyone can program a computer these days. You are damn stupid, and I am glad that by 2018-2020, you will no longer be permitted to live in a regular house without paying exorbitantly high periodic fees. By 2020, The nations in the EU will no longer premit the construction of regular homes as we know them now, instead you will live in zero carbon super compact apartment cubes. Suffer.

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                            CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                            I am glad that by 2018-2020, you will no longer be permitted to live in a regular house without paying exorbitantly high periodic fees. By 2020, The nations in the EU will no longer premit the construction of regular homes as we know them now, instead you will live in zero carbon super compact apartment cubes.

                            Are you still doing drugs? Of course there will be regular houses that conform to the zero carbon standards - they are already in existence. Strangely, many look very similar to traditional houses, because that is what the market demands. There are buyers who like a HiTec look, but most don't. Developers have been building city centre "super compact apartment cubes" for wannabe yuppies from before the term yuppie was coined, and well before anyone cared about carbon footprints. Again, market forces.

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                            • L Lost User

                              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                              I am a Software Engineer

                              @ $5 an hour? You are a cut & paste coder.

                              CaptainSeeSharp wrote:

                              and a Chef

                              @ $5 an hour? You are a burger flipper.

                              Bob Emmett New Eugenicist - The weekly magazine for intelligent parenting. Published by the New World Order Press.

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                              James L Thomson
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                              Bob Emmett wrote:

                              @ $5 an hour?

                              I think you're being a bit too harsh. Minimum wage is $7.25 now.

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                              • J James L Thomson

                                Bob Emmett wrote:

                                @ $5 an hour?

                                I think you're being a bit too harsh. Minimum wage is $7.25 now.

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                                James L. Thomson wrote:

                                I think you're being a bit too harsh. Minimum wage is $7.25 now.

                                There was some discussion here of Minimum Wage. No, it was gold versus fiat currency (yet again :rolleyes:). Captain SeeVee stated that $1 dollar in gold coinage was the equivalent of $25 now. It was pointed out to him that 20c per hour would be $5 per hour now. To which he replied "I'd die to make that much money right now."[^]. Thus, he actually earns less than $5 per hour. [Edit: Link added and context corrected.]

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                                  I'm not a pizza delivery guy, I've never done that in my life. I am a Software Engineer, and a Chef. http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/green-building-news/pre-copenhagen-eus-near-zero-directives-pledges-us-and-china-new-code[^]

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                                  Gonzoox
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                                  wahahahaha, an engineer, wahahahaha a Chef, yeah, RRRRRIGHT!!! a Chef, wahahahahahaha, working for Waffle House doesn't make you a chef. Thank you for the laugh... see you around

                                  I want to die like my grandfather- asleep, not like the passengers in his car, screaming!

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                                  • J josda1000

                                    http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/galland9.1.1.html[^] About the debt crisis, why it hasn't gone away, and why gold/silver are still so important.

                                    Josh Davis
                                    Always looking for blackjack. Or maybe White Frank. One of the two.

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                                    Christian Graus
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                                    Most of this seems like a smart article. Too bad the guy tacks such dumb comments about gold at the end. Gold is a metal. It has inherent value only because we agree it has. The limited supply makes it different to money, I agree. But it is just as able to drop in value as money is, because it's value is just as tenuous and just as reliant on the person you want to give it to, agreeing with you that it has a value that it has for no other reason than happening to be gold. It's not the same as, say, a car, which has a value based on what it does. Gold doesn't do anything.

                                    Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                    • C CaptainSeeSharp

                                      If you have any leftover wealth after buying food, water, and ammo, then you want to invest it in gold and silver. Look at history before you disregard gold and silver. Those with gold and silver still have their money after the chaos is over.

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      Damn - I was almost dumb enough to bother replying to this drivel. Narrow escape.

                                      Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                      • C Christian Graus

                                        Most of this seems like a smart article. Too bad the guy tacks such dumb comments about gold at the end. Gold is a metal. It has inherent value only because we agree it has. The limited supply makes it different to money, I agree. But it is just as able to drop in value as money is, because it's value is just as tenuous and just as reliant on the person you want to give it to, agreeing with you that it has a value that it has for no other reason than happening to be gold. It's not the same as, say, a car, which has a value based on what it does. Gold doesn't do anything.

                                        Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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                                        CaptainSeeSharp
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                                        Then don't invest in gold.

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                                          Then don't invest in gold.

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                                          Christian Graus
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                                          There's no reason to think gold is a BAD investment, and it's value climbs in times of uncertainty. But it only has value because people agree it does. It has no real value, that is, not to cover what people pay for it.

                                          Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.

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