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  • S Shamit Kumar Tomar

    No need. VS.PHP[^] already exists there for years.

    Procrastination and Improvisation are my two swords to fight life.

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    dawmail333
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    But the price is not right ;)

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      But the price is not right ;)

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      Shamit Kumar Tomar
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      Did you buy the original Visual Studio :laugh: ? There are many ways to get what you want.

      Procrastination and Improvisation are my two swords to fight life.

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      • S Shamit Kumar Tomar

        Did you buy the original Visual Studio :laugh: ? There are many ways to get what you want.

        Procrastination and Improvisation are my two swords to fight life.

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        dawmail333
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        Nope, I got every edition of VS for free, at about the Professional level. Thanks MS and your awesome Dreamspark! (I also got Expression Studio for free too!)

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        • J Joe Woodbury

          It ended up in <username>\Application Settings\<Random Directory Name> The executable ended in tssd.exe. It may have been installed through an executable called PdfUpd.exe, though that's not clear. We actually found it by using Glary utilities to see what programs were starting.

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          Bill Gross Tech
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          Joe Woodbury wrote:

          We actually found it by using Glary utilities to see what programs were starting.

          You trust Glary Utilities? I thought GU was going to be something awesome, but it seemed to behave like a trojan itself.

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          • E Electron Shepherd

            But, assuming a properly configured firewall, the download of the trojan must be initiated from your computer. The only way I can see that working is from a dodgy web page that installs a rogue applet, that either is the actual trojan, or downloads it. If that's the case, the problem isn't so much with Java per se, but the Java runtime, which will be written in a proper language. You could always consider switching to a different JRE. I'm with you, though, mainly. I have yet to see a Java program that runs as fast, looks as nice or is as feature-rich as a native platform application. I can see the benefit of using it if you have *lots* of platforms that your code needs to run on (Oracle tools come to mind, for example).

            Server and Network Monitoring

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            <blockquote class="FQ"><div class="FQA">Electron Shepherd wrote:</div>I have yet to see a Java program that runs as fast, looks as nice or is as feature-rich as a native platform application.</blockquote> I've written such applications, thank you very much! Once you learn how to use Swing, you can build Java GUI applications every bit as feature rich, and not noticably slower than a native Windows app. You can have every single window intelligently resizeable. There are a lot of bad applications written in every language, for every platform, and there are also good ones, just as there are bad programmers and good ones.

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            • C Cedric Moonen

              Nemanja Trifunovic wrote:

              The reason I don't want JRE on my home system is really that I don't want any software written with Java running. No JRE - no Java apps, as simple as that

              For which specific reason ? Just because you don't like Java ? Or is there a concrete reason for that ?

              Cédric Moonen Software developer
              Charting control [v3.0] OpenGL game tutorial in C++

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              Nemanja Trifunovic
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              Cedric Moonen wrote:

              For which specific reason ?

              Every single Java software I ever tried is a memory hog. That may be OK for specialized servers, but not a home machine where I run multiple applications and want to switch between them quickly.

              utf8-cpp

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              • J Joe Woodbury

                It ended up in <username>\Application Settings\<Random Directory Name> The executable ended in tssd.exe. It may have been installed through an executable called PdfUpd.exe, though that's not clear. We actually found it by using Glary utilities to see what programs were starting.

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                I spent days fighting 2 of these and a browser hijack. What a major PIA. The 2 I had were "Anti Spyware Soft" and "AV Security Suite". Of course, they only appeared on the only machine that I have a AV program on (Trend Micro, which never seemed to notice a thing). Of course, that's the only machine with auto-updates turned on too (work provided laptop, their machine - their rules). The good thing is, there's lots of good info out there about removing the fake-anti-spyware stuff - the browser hijack was a pain until I found TDSSKiller[^] That seemed to finally eradicate both problems. I never did know where it came from...

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                • B Bill Gross Tech

                  Joe Woodbury wrote:

                  We actually found it by using Glary utilities to see what programs were starting.

                  You trust Glary Utilities? I thought GU was going to be something awesome, but it seemed to behave like a trojan itself.

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                  whg144 wrote:

                  but it seemed to behave like a trojan

                  How? It's not awesome, but is useful. (For finding out what programs are started, AutoRuns[^] is more useful, but the IT guy didn't know about it.)

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                    I spent days fighting 2 of these and a browser hijack. What a major PIA. The 2 I had were "Anti Spyware Soft" and "AV Security Suite". Of course, they only appeared on the only machine that I have a AV program on (Trend Micro, which never seemed to notice a thing). Of course, that's the only machine with auto-updates turned on too (work provided laptop, their machine - their rules). The good thing is, there's lots of good info out there about removing the fake-anti-spyware stuff - the browser hijack was a pain until I found TDSSKiller[^] That seemed to finally eradicate both problems. I never did know where it came from...

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                    skydvr wrote:

                    AV Security Suite"

                    That's the one that hit me.

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                    • J Joe Woodbury

                      skydvr wrote:

                      AV Security Suite"

                      That's the one that hit me.

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                      OK - well, you might want to run that TDSSKiller just to see if it finds anything - I got Av Security Suite a second time without using the computer for anything other than trying to remove the browser hijack (which, I realize, you might not be experiencing). TDSSKiller reported that my cdrom.sys was corrupt, and "fixed" it, which is when my problems went away. My thought is that when I "removed" it the first time (by removing registry keys and the executable), it just sat dormant for a while, then popped back up some time later.

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